Still any Tiger to Leopard upgrade issues?

For reasons far to boring to explain I purchased Leopard when it was first released (so its a vanilla 10.5.0 disc) but never was able to install. My Macbook Pro (15" 2.2) has an up too date Tiger install and finally I have time to upgrade. i know at the start there were frequent reports of people having real trouble upgrading (a friend of mine, after a week of stress did a fresh wipe and install to fix his errors) and I wanted to know if this is still the case with a 10.5.0 version?
{I will be superdupering a backup of my current set up just in case.}
Thanks!
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Once you've made your bootable backup/clone and tested it, see these for info on the three installation options:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5757385
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5666369
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5646414

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OK. A quick update.
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It looks that it is not a bad idea to stay with 10.4.11, and upgrade only the FCS.
I will do this on my clone disk, and check if everything works fine.
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