Still no fix for Chapter Markers exporting in H.264 Blu-ray for Encore import Error

Why didn't this fix take place in the recent PPRO 2014.2 update?
I still get the error in Encore that I can import the movie file due to chapter markers.
Does this mean we cant any more use Encore for authoring DVDs or Blurays?
Really don't like the Delete the chapter reference file to do this.

The bug appears fixed to me.
First, I updated only AME to 2014.2. I exported directly from PR 2014.1, and, as expected, the xmpses file is malformed and import to Encore fails. Export using the queue (and therefore clearly AME), the export shows a corrected xmpses file, and import to Encore works.
Then I updated PR to 2014.2. Now, direct export from PR also works.
I did not test updating PR and not AME, and that might present a different result.
What are your versions of PR and AME?
Edit: couldn't resist. Rolled back AME to 2014.1 with PR still updated to 2014.2. Direct Export from PR works.

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No Chapter markers in share - DVD or blu ray?????

Hi there,
Latest version of Lion and FCX.
I burned my 1st blu ray for a client last night (wuhoo!). It looks great. Outstanding actually. Used a Matrox CompressHD card to compress the H.264.
But I noticed no chapter markers present.
Thinking it was the matrox card, I did some investigation.
Turns out that chapter markers are 'apparently', NOT transferred during the share feature??!??! It doesn't matter what I use for compression - markers simply don't transfer from FCX to Compressor 4!?!?!
Maybe I did something wrong - I'm just learning FCX after using FCP for years.
I had to re-create the chapters in Compressor 4.
Is that the way to have chapter markers carry across?
If so, that is simply one of the most asinine decisions about this product. Forget all the hassles about not importing previous projects etc.. as that is a different issue, but discontinuing one of the most basic features from the previous product is just ridiculous.
Can anyone confirm the chapter marker workflow? Again, it could be me doing something wrong, but I have a funny (and SAD!) feeling I'm not...
Cheers,
Keebler

No, you're not doing something wrong, chapter markers are a glaring omission from FCP X but apparently, Apple sees no future in DVD or even Blu Ray, so we're stuck with using Compressor or some other application to add chapter markers.
Fortunately, this is very simple if you list the timecode (each on separate lines in a text file) where you want the chapter markers to be - Compressor will import them and the markers appear automatically.
I agree with you though - it's pretty lame.
Andy

Chapter markers won't work when Blu-ray Disc burned

I just burned a Blu-ray Disc directly in FCP7 (using Sharing). My 5 chapter markers are nowhere to be found when I play the disc back in my player.
What happened? I don't want the chapter markers as subtitles -- simply want them to work as chapter markers.
I'm sure I've burned Blu-ray before and the chapter markers exported just fine. Don't know what's wrong, this time.

Larry, in Compressor, open the preview window and be sure the markers are there before encoding. If not, create a chapter list in DVDSP format and import it. I'm not sure why they don't show sometime, but I believe that if they appear in the Compressor preview window, they will be there on the final disc.
You can export a marker list from FCP and manipulate the text file (I use TextEdit's replace function) to turn it into this format:
00:23:24:15 Chapter one
00:35:12:19 Chapter two etc.
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Exporting H.264 Blu-ray material in CS3

System:
2009 Mac Pro 3.33GHz Quad core
Snow Leopard 10.6.5
16GB RAM
Radeon HD 5870
Adobe Premiere Pro CS3, 3.2.0
Video material:
DVCProHD, 1080p60i/24p, 23.976fps shot on P2, MXF file format.
Exporting to:
H.264 Blu-ray via Adobe Media Encoder
I can render Blu-ray material, and even burn it in an internal LG 10x Blu-ray burner that I installed. The result was wonderful when played back on a Blu-ray player and HDTV.
What I cannot figure out is why I have to render projects in small little segments, rather than one large one, and then line them all up on a timeline in Encore. I then have to rearrange my chapter points, since Encore places a chapter marker at each clip. It's not the biggest deal in the world, but it's just annoying.
I've tried different settings, and the one that gives me the most success is starting with the preset for H.264 (Blu-ray), HDTV 1080p 23.976 High Quality, and switching the Profile from High to Main, and leaving the rest alone. I'm not sure if I tried HDTV 1080i 29.97... maybe I should. Whether it crashes or not seems to depend on how many effects are in the clip, or how long the segment is, but I can usually get away with up to about 10000 frames of video without a crash. The crash almost always occurs during the second pass of VBR encoding. It closes Premiere and offers the crash report window, which I am not good at decyphering. Anyway, I always submit the crash report with what I was trying to do. Adobe has many of them from me now.
Can anyone shed some light as to why it only allows 6000-10000 frames go through this encoding process? My system will show that it only used about 6 out of 16 GB of RAM after a fresh reboot. It helps if I reboot between each encode session, as well. If I try to encode two short segments without rebooting between, I usually get a crash. Also, I can encode DVDs just fine with the same project. I encoded the 105 minute movie with all the same effects, clips, etc. and the DVD was flawless on the first try. It's just the H.264 Blu-ray setting that jacks it up.
I'm glad I can get the thing done piecemeal, but I was hoping someone could at least explain why it's so difficult. (:

I would agree, and I think it must have to do with RAM. When I get a segment exported successfully, the Activity Monitor shows very close to all 16 GB used in many cases. I surmise that when the program sucks too close to all 16GB up, it crashes.

AME Shuts Down when exporting H.264 Blu Ray

I have a current project that was shot in HDV and I am trying to export an H.264 Blu Ray file. This is a 4 Disk set and the other 3 files exported with no problems but for some reason I cannot get this last one (which happens to be Disk #3). I will start AME running as I am getting ready to leave my office. When I come back in the morning there is nothing open on my desktop, just the normal screen. Anyoen have any ideas??? Below are my export setting and computer info
Format: H.264 Blu Ray
Preset: Custom
Pixel Aspect Ratio: Widescreen 16:9
Profile: High
Level: 4.1
Bitrate Encoding: VBR 2 pass
Target Bitrate: 20 Mbps
Maximum Bitrate: 25 Mbps
Audio: PCM
Multiplexing: None
Computer
Windows XP Pro 64
Intel Core 2 Quad 2.5GHz
4 GB RAM
300 GB System Drive
1.5 TB Video Dive with 700 GB of free space.
Thanks
Phil

This is from the regular LOG.
5/9/2009 12:37:29 PM : Queue Started
- Source File: C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\Kapadia Wedding_24.prproj
- Output File: V:\DVD's\Kapadia\From Premiere\Disk_3_HD.m4v
- Preset Used: Custom
- Video: NTSC, 1440x1080, 29.97 [fps], Upper
- Audio: PCM Audio, 48 kHz, Stereo
- Bitrate: VBR, 2 Pass, Target 20.00, Max 25.00 [Mbps]
That is it... It does not show that there was a problem or that it was completed.
I then went into the Errors Log and there was nothing about this particular project.
Do you think that maybe the PC is shutting down and restarting? Not sure how I would know that...
Dont get me started on the Pr not supported by XP 64 thing. Quite frustrating to me....
Phil

PR and AME 8.1.0 Export H.264 Blu-ray Creates Malformed xmpses File

Posting this here in PR, but this also applies to AME. The bug report was coded to AME. The only symptom may be upon import to Encore. See issue and bug report in this thread: Re: Re: Encore won't import markers with bluray vid output from Premiere through Media Encoder
Bug report filed. This appears to affect H.264 Blu-ray exports from PR 8.1.0 directly or through AME 8.1.0. It does not affect MPEG2 Blu-ray. The only practical symptom identified so far is a failure of files to import to Encore without deleting the xmpses file, which results in loss of chapter markers. A possible workaround is to modify the xmpses file.
Has this already been identified as a bug? Are there any other consequences?

Hey Kevin -
Having this issue on my new PC. I posted this on the Encore thread too but figured I'd update this thread as well. Hopefully the fix is coming in the next update (8.1.1?) Interestingly, I'm using 8.0.1 right now and I'm in my first week using my new PC (switched last week from long time Mac user) and both projects I exported had this issue. What's strange is that on my PC when exporting projects to the H264 Bluray format I get the xmpses and and xmp file whereas on the mac I only got the xmpses file. Even stranger is that I never had this issue on my Mac and when I bring in a project that I just exported using my mac into Encore on my PC it doesn't give the "error parsing MPEG..." message and all chapter markers come in just fine. These exports were just from last week using the same version of Premiere (8.0.1) I'm using AME 2014.1 though on this new PC whereas I can't remember on my mac if I had updated it yet to 2014.1 I don't think I did. Can't remember and I already wiped and sold it. Anyway, glad to hear the bug has been isolated and hope for a fix real soon. Thank you!
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AME 8.1.0.122
X99 5930K 6-Core
32GB Ram
GTX 970
Windows 8.1 Pro
(total side note: I wish in the signature of posts every forum member could have stored their specs so it would automatically be on each post for reference. Random thought.)

Downsides to multiplexing audio for H.264 Blu-ray disc?

I have a 9 minute video; personal/consumer use; 1280x720; 59.94; source video from a Contour+ helmet camera that stores .mov, H.264; audio is on a separate track from my own selection of mp3 files (it is a music video). I have three intended playback targets: Blu-ray disc, Sony PS3 native, and PC/Windows Media Player. Is there a big downside on video or audio quality in this case using multiplexing to produce a single .m2t file imported into Encore to produce the BD vs. separate .m4v/.wav files? Not a huge deal, but having to maintain one production files vs. three is a minor plus if it makes little to no difference on the BD front.
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Thanks

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If you need better clarification...
Lets go back to dvd for a moment. DVD structure is Video TS and Audio TS. TS is Transport Stream. A stream is a BUFFERED movement of data that is transferred quickly in set sized chunks. In DVD there were two transport streams to play back early on. Later, many started muxing those streams and encrypting them, so that upon Decrypting they could be played. Muxing made the encryption easier, as only one stream needed to be encrypted and it was all in the Video TS. Audio TS folders are still written, but there is little data there. In fact, removing this folder when no data is actually present has shown in some cases to do no damage, while in others, it will not play. This is because, it is used as a shell to copy. It initiates the audio stream playback on older players, and on newer players it isn't necessary.
Blu-ray yields similar limitations. You need to match the size of the buffer you are feeding. Most players max out around 35mps from the old sets, and newer players actually pull more like 50mps. If you don't know your target, you'll be out of luck. I've seen blu-rays that don't play on older players being sold at video stores, at Frys, everywhere. I've played them on an old one and found them to be unplayable. Newer formats do not work with older players, but, they note it on the package that you need to meet certain specs, and those specs can usually be found on a sticker on your device so you can see if they match. Remember your Target BitRate and Max Bitrate. The Target should be less than the max for the device you aim for. CS6 won't usually allow anything over 32.7mps, anyway, so setting this in AME even with dynamic linking could cause problems. However, you do have the choice to locate a transcode... ...presents an interesting possibility. I've been trying to get a project done or I'd try this myself:
I'd use the x264 free codec, with some basic options and blu-ray-compatible flag, with --fake-interlaced, to create a transcode and link it into encore. However, encore hasn't liked any of my transcodes that use multiple passes. I'm going to try with a single pass later, and produce an intermediate output for now.

Exporting HD video to Blu-ray format causes motion blur

Using Premiere Pro CS4, I have HD video projects that are either 720p30 and 1080i (60i). The 720p video is 1280x720 (1.0) 60fps. The 1080i footage is 1920x1080 (1.0) at 29.97 fps.
For exporting the video to a format suitable for burning to Blu-ray (using Encore) I've am using the MPEG-2 Blu-Ray format using either the HDTV 1080i High Quality or the HDTV 720p 59.94 High Quality presets, depending on the format of the original video that I'm compiling.
I didn't notice it at first but when I burned first my test Blu-ray disc I found that the video was having some wierd exaggerated motion blur characteristics going on. Any abrupt movment, such as a person turning their head or a video box shrinking from full screen to half screen would be wildly blurred. I thought it might have been a result of the burn but I subsequently found the problem was introduced during the video export process in Premiere Pro. I just didn't catch it because I wasn't looking closely enough.
Because I am using the default settings for the two presets cited above I'm at a loss about what is introducting this blur or how to go about mitigating it. Anyone got any tips? What could be having such a problem making motion which shouldn't blur too much blur so badly? Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Ok, I'm stumped for the moment. To better illustrate what's going on I'll post some pics of the problem. I'm using a piece of video that's not part of my projects but it does illustrate what's going on pretty well.
The first is what Premiere Pro is displaying for the source video. I'm currently using a Sequence Preset of DVCPROHD 720P 60P even though I don't have the hardware for it. The reason being is it stopped the blur from happening in the timeline and I think that's because this preset had a 59.94 fps preset and the source video was 60fps.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/7bd0af110335520
The second is a Premiere Pro frame grab of what the source video file looks like. I'm using an export of Windows Bitmap with a preset of HD Square Pixel Bitmap 720p. I'm using the Progressive setting because if I choose either Upper or Lower first the image looks even worse.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/9aa895110335495
The third is a Premiere Pro frame grab of what the exported video file looks like. The video was exported using MPEG Blu-ray with a preset of HDTV 720p 59.94 High Quality with no modifications. I'm using an export of Windows Bitmap with a preset of HD Square Pixel Bitmap 720p. I'm using the Progressive setting because if I choose either Upper or Lower first the image looks even worse. Incidentally, this exported video displays in the Premiere Pro timeline with visible motion blur characteristics whereas the source video did not.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/3a2a60110335483
What these images show.
1) The source video displays crisp in Premiere Pro even though this is footage of a video transition.
2) The source video exports out with some motion blur.
3) When you do a frame grab of the exported video the motion blur of the exported video increases.
As I said, I'm stumped. I've tried modifying every setting in the exporter for MPEG Blu-ray with a preset of HDTV 720p 59.94 High Quality and I can't stop this blur. I looked at the H.264 Blu-ray setting but it appears useless. Every time I try to export, the exported video crashes Media Player and when I load it into Premiere Pro I see the video now has motion blur.
At this point I'm wondering if upgrading to CS5 will make a difference or not. That's about the only thing I can think of that I haven't tried yet.

AE CS4 render engine / Adobe Media Encoder won't create a container for h.264 blu-ray

here's the problem.
First, I tried to render a comp using the render engine inside AE using h.264 blu-ray preset.
It was supposed to create 1 file, but I ended up with 3 : audio track, video and a file with .xmpses extension.
I then decided to render it in lossless .mov, which works fine, but 3:40 minutes is taking up over 8gb, which is of course, unacceptable.
After that, I've put the .mov file into Media Encoder to try h.264 blu-ray there.
Absolutely the same ********.
I'm using the Mac version of AE CS4.
Here is the screenshot of original .mov file and the result. As you see, it refuses to make a container. This is absolutely unacceptable

It raises another question: what settings do I need to encode the comp in 720p resolution without taking up lots of space?
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You could do this:
* Pick the generic H264 template. You'll see that it will give an error if you attempt to render, because the default setting uses an H264 profile/level which doesn't let you use HD resolutions.
* In the H264 video options, set the "Profile" menu to "Main" and "Level" to 4.0. That will keep it compatible to Quicktime and Flash player, while allowing larger frame sizes and higher bit rates.
* Set Target Bitrate to 5-8 Mbps and Maximum Bitrate to 9-10 Mbps if you're targetting web delivery. That's a bit over what Apple uses for 720p content on the Apple TV, for example.
The H264 original preset will instruct you in the comment field to stretch to 640x480 in Output Module. There's no need, since you are using a profile/level combination which allows higher frame sizes.

Premier CS4 will export H.264 Blu Ray, but not a H.264 file.

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Anyone?
Bill Hunt?
Specs,
Windows XP service pack 3
2.8 Ghz
3.25 GB RAM
37G free HD
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Despite the Interlaced UFF export setting, the H.264 option doesn't respect that and exports out a poorly deinterlaced progressive video instead.
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VBR or CBR for H.264 Blu-Ray?

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When working in DVD Studio Pro, I always use CBR without a problem. Those were not Blu-Ray discs though.
My Target Bit Rate is at around 12
My Max Bit Rate is 25 or 20.
Media Encoder 5
Premiere Pro cs 5.5

Jim Simon wrote:
Neither. CQ mode is best.
http://tangentsoft.net/video/mpeg/enc-modes.html
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/XviD4PSP
For more information on a description of Constant Qiuality (CQ) vs Constant or Variable Bitrate (CBR, VBR) have a look here on page 5..
http://www.x264pro.com/wp-content/uploads/x264_PRO_Help.pdf
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'hope that helps.

Why won't chapter markers export?

I have tried again and again to export my chapter markers but they just won't. What am I doing wrong?
Eric

If you don't have any other markers (e.g. compression), export your movie to "include chapter markers" instead of "all markers."
Actually, if you're exporting for DVD (either Compressor, DVDSP, or iDVD), you're supposed to select DVD Studio Pro Markers, not All Markers.
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In attempt to burn blu-ray, I get QuickTime error 0. Takes hours to export a 7 minute movie from timeline, then get notice it fails. What's going on here?

New problem just started 24 hours ago. When I try to export from the time line to create a QuickTime file, a 7 minute movie on time line takes 3 hours to export and then the export fails, where as a few days ago, that export would take about 10 minutes at most. I get the same failure notice when I try to share to blu-ray, DVD, or Vimeo. Tried to use compressor, no such luck as compressor failed to make a .mov file. I get QuickTime error 0 message about 5 minutes into trying to share to Blu-Ray now. Does anyone know what is going on here? I'm running latest update of Snow Leopard on an intel Mac Pro and the latest update to Final Cut Pro X. I've also installed QT 7.6.6 to use in creating time lapse movie files.

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I'm actually going to use iDVD to burn copies for a few people, so I only need the movie file from FCPX.
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Thank you!
Bart

Export Media to H.264 Blu-Ray 720p 30fps?

I have video I've shot on a point and shoot camera which shoots video at 720p (1280x720) at 30fps.   I'm able to import it into Premier CS4, edit, etc.   Then when I go to export the media to Media Encoder I'm looking for the preset to match this input - which would be 720p at 30fps.   I want to burn this to blu-ray so I'm picking the H.264 720p blu-ray preset.   However, there doesn't appear to be any presets for chosing 30fps to match my video.   It only allows 24fps or 60fps. I've tried picking this preset, then trying to change the fps setting - but 30fps is not an option so it doesn't appear I can change it.
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Thanks!

Keep in mind I'm pretty new at this stuff - but I was trying to keep my video at 30fps since it was recorded at 30fps.   The only problem is apparently 30fps isn't supported for 720x1280.   So I'm really not sure if I should keep 720, but go with 24fps, 50fps, or 60fps.   Since 1080i had a 30fps is chose that.
If I go with 720 24fps won't it drop frames which would take away from the smoothness of the video?   I wasn't sure what bumping up to 50 or 60fps would do since it would be adding frames I didn't capture.
So being a novice, I really didn't know how to handle this.
Any suggestions on the "preferable" way that I should handle this type of video?
Thanks - I appreciate the advice!

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