Stop sap and oracle on MSCS

Hi,
We have an MSCS cluster with 2 nodes with NW2004s JAVA and oracle 10g.
We want to do a windows backup of the 2 nodes with everything stopped (SAP, Oracle and Services).
In another word how we can stop SAP, Oracle and services without a failover.
Thank you for you help.
Chak

very easy:
as documented in the installation guide.
clustered components have to be at least stopped using the Windows Cluster Administrator (in Administrative Tools).
in order to do a backup of the SAP and Oracle Disks too you have only to take the SAP Instance
within the SAP Cluster Group and the Oracle Instance within the Oracle Cluster Group offline.
At least the cluster disks needs to be online on the node where you are running the backup.
The rest of the resources within the SAP and Oracle Cluster group may remain online.
Oracle strongly recommends to use the Oracle Failsafe Manager to stop the Oracle database.
you can also use commandline tools like cluster.exe and ofscmd.exe to administrate cluster resources.
(cluster.exe resource "SAP PRD Instance 00" /offline) ...
by the way: in Netweaver 2004s you can also stop the SAP Instance using the SAPMMC.
it will detect that the instance is clustered and will use the cluster interface to take it offline (just the instance).
regards
Peter

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