Sub contract process with excise documents
Hi
I have a scenario in my project
MUM1- Mumbai plant
IN01 -Vadodara Plant
Mumbai is used only as a store for raw material (imported/Local)
Process is from Mumbai raw material (child component) is to be shipped to sub con vendor (1000) any where in India Ex -->Banglore
After processing Subcon vendor(1000) will send finish component to IN01 vadodara plant.
How the process will be mapped for Excise documentation.
required is Cenvat credit flow from Mumbai to Vadodara.
Regards
Ajit k
hi
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
u2022 Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
here give the delivery add of vadodara palnt ,and the vendor of banglore
u2022 Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
u2022 Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Accounting Entry: -
CENVAT Input BED - Cr
CENVAT Input ECS - Cr
CENVAT Input ECS - Cr
CENVAT Suspense A/c - Dr
u2022 Capture Vendor Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
u2022 Post Excise Invoice for FG received from Subcontractor (J1IEX)
Accounting Entry: -
CENVAT Input BED - Dr
CENVAT Input ECS - Dr
CENVAT Input ECS - Dr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
Master Data
u2022 MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
u2022 XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
u2022 CS01 - BOM for FG
u2022 ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting
regards
kunal
award if helpful
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can anybody explain me ,
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From sub-contract PO to Subcontract challan output
Explain me step by step process with t.codes
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Sub Contracting Process with t.codes are:
(1) You have create material in MM01(Finished Goods ,mat type FERT) that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM (CS01) with components (Raw Materials , Mat type ROH). Any waste generated as scraps or by products received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity or in % basis in the BOM in CS01.
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(4) You receive (MIGO) finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
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visuHi,
Check the following settings
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541 & 543 Mvt for Sub Contract Process with Split Valuation
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99 117000 Stock 100
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Take Care
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Edited by: Praveen Singh on Sep 16, 2008 8:07 PMGo to OMWB and click on simulation and here enter you mateirla number, plant and Mtype 101
Then click on account assignment
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Posting Lines Text VlGCd AGC VCl PK Acct D PK Acct Cr
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Incidental costs of external a -e- -e- -e- 86 460820 96 460820
External activity -e- -e- TRA1 86 460960 96 460960
Change in stock account -e- -e- TRA1 81 460820 91 460820
Purchase offsetting account -e- -e- -e- 40 --Missing- 50 --Missing-
Purchase account -e- -e- -e- 40 --Missing- 50 --Missing-
Materials management exch.rate -e- -e- -e- 40 440600 50 440600
Cost (price) differences -e- TRA1 83 440000 93 440005
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Inventory posting -e- -e- TRA1 89 130000 -
SubContract Process with Excise Flow
Hello All,
Can anyone please explain me in Detail Subcontract Process with Excise flow considering these...
1. Subcontracting without payment of Excise duty
2. Subcontracting under full payment of Excise duty
and if scrap is to generate under process. So how to maintain that in PO. and Later how to reconcile that in Excise flow..
I will be very thankful if anyone help me ...
Abhinay....hi,
SUBCONTRACTING:
To create Subcontracting challan:
J1IF01 - Creating sub contracting Chelan
J1IFQ - Reconciliation for Chelan
J1IF13 - after receiving all items
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
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Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and auto consumption of components with 543 movement}
Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Note: - In this case, you have to maintain the Assessable Value for the Components to be supplied to Vendor in J1ID and also Excise Tax rates for the Chapter IDs linked with these components. So during J1IF01, system will take the Assessable Value as Excise base Value and calculates the Excise Duties by taking Excise Tax Rates.
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Master Data
MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
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CS01 - BOM for FG
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In sub-contract process:
Vendor suppose to return - 10 qty
but, we received only 8 qty.
Vendor has accepted to pay For shortage 2 qty.
1. How to address the above scenario?. (exciseable material)
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mrsDear ,
case 1) IF GR NOT DONE YET:
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that means u have comsumed more than required .then raise the debit note for loss.
reconcille the challan by the same GR doc and complete the same.
Case 2)IF GR is allready done.
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I am dispatching goods from Mfg. Plant to godown(Not registered for excise) but belongs to manufacturing company only.
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Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD, Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt, Doc Year, Series Group, Excise Group and Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
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We got a requirement from our users to sub-contract certain production processing steps (or called external processing per SAP). Same part number would be used for the goods issue and goods receipt. But would like to make the delivery for the goods issuing as the delivery for normal sales parts. (Purchase order -> Delivery order -> Shipping and Packing)
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So, as per my best knowledge there's no solution for your requirement.
I guess one reason of system's behaviour might be that provision of compoenents doesn't depend on one single PO - if you want to reduce your shipment cost you will send out lots of components at once, more than the amount needed for one call-off.
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· You can order goods from an external vendor as consignment goods by setting the Consignment item category manually in the purchase order.
· You can transfer goods in the consignment stock of your site to other sites. To do this, you post goods manually from the consignment stock to your own stock. This creates a legally binding contract with the external vendor.
Settlement of the withdrawal is done regularly at an agreed time for eg. quarterly,half yearly...
Activities in Materials Management:
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Sub contract process in india version
Hi gurus,
can anybody kindly tell the sub contract process in india? what is the process and how the configuration will be customized? my client having 4.6c, and recently implemented cin version.
given the full points for answer.
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/erplo/cin+configuration&
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Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
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Kindly check with the following:
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- Make vendor field(LIFNR) mandatory at MB1B 311 E .
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3 Create Subcontracting challan with reference to 311E material document.
4 Make GR after goods recieved from vendor.
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Edited by: SNB on Dec 13, 2010 10:18 AM -
Sub contracting - ME2O - with delivery
hi all,
To stock transfer against SC PO using Trn ME2O, we have 2 option. one is with in IM(Post Goods Issue) the other is using shipping(create delivery).
Wat r the pre requisite setting to create delivery. Plz list the T.Codes sequentially.hi,
To create Subcontracting challan:
J1IF01 - Creating sub contracting Chelan
J1IFQ - Reconciliation for Chelan
J1IF13 - after receiving all items
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and auto consumption of components with 543 movement}
Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Note: - In this case, you have to maintain the Assessable Value for the Components to be supplied to Vendor in J1ID and also Excise Tax rates for the Chapter IDs linked with these components. So during J1IF01, system will take the Assessable Value as Excise base Value and calculates the Excise Duties by taking Excise Tax Rates.
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Regards
Priyanka.P -
Return delivery process with excise in MM module
Dear Friends,
this is chandu working as a consultant-mm , please any one can give the clear information regarding return delivery process for excise material , i'm following one process that is after invoice verification
1) reverse excise invoice with MR8M
2) return delivery with MIGO
3) prepare outgoing excise invoice with J1IS for print out J1IV
4) preparing credit memo in MIRO with reference to original po
the second process
1) create return po with selecting return po check box in po
2) GR with reference to the return po
3)then J1IS and J1IV same process
4) credit memo for return po in MIRO
this 2 ways i'm doing the process in the registers part1 that is qty updating (i.e qty is reducing) but in the case of part2 that is the value it is not updating (i.e value has to reduce in the register right i'm working first time on CIN plz guide me the correct procedure if i'm doing wrong , in this my problem is only value not updating part2 register plz give me solution with clear explanation .
regards
chanduHi,
Follow the below mentioned procedure;
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD, Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt, Doc Year, Series Group, Excise Group and Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
Regards,
Mahesh Wagh -
Sub contracting Process issue for A/c entry
Hi All,
While doing the GRN for subcontracting process ,cost object error is appearing for stock change SFG account ( BSV).
Business would like to do not assign the Default cost object for change in stock account. Kinldy confirm whether it is possible to determine Internal order number ,whcih same assigned to GRN for stock in change account SFG.
Any alternative method would be apprecaite
Rgds
SumaManiThanks to all of us for answers !!
We solved problem as mentioned !
1. Created separate SFG Stock change over subcontracting GL account and assigned same in OBYC - BSV & profit centre wise internal order defaulted in OKB9 settings.Also created sub contracting expenses GL and assigned OKB9 profit centre wise. ( Problem has been solved with separate GL account of stock change over)
It can be possible to solve with using of substituion GGB0 with module pool RGGB0*
Rgds
SumaMani
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