Subclass / Object Group / Object Library error?

Forms [32 Bit] Version 10.1.2.0.2 (Production)
I am experiencing a strange problem with classes, object groups and object libraries - I have tried all sorts of combinations, but I always get the same problem.
1. Create a form
2. Creat a property class - PC1 and add a when-button-pressed trigger that does 'null'
3. Create another property class PC2 that subclasses PC1 - note that the trigger is inherited correctly and the Triger Text shows the inheritance arrow in the property sheet.
4. Create an object group in the form - OBJ1 - and add these two classes.
5. Create a new obejct library and copy the OBJ1 object group.
It is at this point that things go wrong! If you now look back at the PC2 class - the inheritance chain of the trigger code has now been broken?
Well - it ALWAYS is my system - I have tried all sorts of combinations - including changing paths, forms_path, registry etc. etc. but I am coming to the conclusion that it is a bug?
Can anyone confirm that they experience the same problem?
Regards,
Bren

Thanks Gerd!
I have tried on 10g on several machines (some identical) and some with different paths (FORMS_PATH etc.) - but I always get the inherited trigger code disassociated.
Also - and slightly strange, before I copy the object group, the properites of the trigger are perfect and the trigger code shows the inherited arrow. Directly after copying the object group, the trigger code property sheet has the un-inherited red cross, but, if I close the Form, I am not prompted to save the changes? So it's like Forms is making the change, but not internally marking the form as being changed.
Let me know how you get on with 10g - and thanks for your input!
Regards,
Bren

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host 74.125.225.83
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host 74.125.225.51
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host 74.125.225.84
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3    FOR UPDATE
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3         name => 'MVIEWADMIN.MV_REFRESH_GROUPA',
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2       DBMS_REPCAT.CREATE_MVIEW_REPOBJECT(
3         gname => 'GROUPA',
4         sname => 'SCOTT',
5         oname => 'EMP_MV',
6         type => 'SNAPSHOT',
7         min_communication => TRUE);
8    END;
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-- Mihajlo
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No Kevin, that is not possible. But why do you use a smart shape over a button? You can use a shape as a button? But of course, too bad that a shape will never be in the library (as is the case for buttons). You can copy/paste within the same project, or create a template to have them available for future projects.
Lilybiri

Error: Accessing grouped objects in tab control

I have encountered an error where I cannot use/select objects within a tab control because they are grouped together.
If I copy/paste the tab control it shows them grouped and I can select them but as it stands in my program I cannot select the objects.
I would just copy/paste and work with that but I have property nodes and additional code for each of the 20 objects and would rather not have to go back and relink each property node and wire the new controls within the BD.
I am looking for a way of accessing the objects without having to copy+paste/recode anything.
Please note that there is a recent post about this tab control grouping error but is geared more towards adding an error notifier to LabView rather than how to fix the error.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

"Are these objects grouped because they are in a cluster or possibly because they were grouped using the reorder menu?"
The objects were grouped using the reorder menu on the front panel and then placed on a tab control.
The issue was that when I tried clicking on any of the grouped objects within the tab control on the front panel, nothing would happen.
If I double clicked, I would select the tab control on the BD.
I got rid of the bug by selecting everything on my BD and copying it into a new, blank VI.
Once I did that, I was able to access the objects that were grouped on the tab control.
Sorry for the late reply-- once I got it working I was only focused on finishing my task.

Using Object Group.

I am using the forms 6i. And i have a problem with attach Object Group.
After attach, the form do not execute.
I have a question: What the values the Object Group utility on the registry?
Or if another sugestion...
Thanks, so much.
Martônio.

1. Did you copy the object group to the new module or subclassed it?
R- Subclass.
2. Did you compile your form module after doing copy/subclass of the object group?
R- Yes.
3. Did you get any compilation error/warning?
R-No. Because the form close before display.
4. Is the base object group is from a form or a object library?
R-Object Library.
5. Is the base form / object library in which the object group exists is there in the FORMS60_PATH?
R-Yes.
Thanks. So much....
Martônio.

Subclass the WebUtil Object

Hi. I'm attempting to Subclass the WebUtil Object. I've attached the library to my application and I've opened the WebUtil Object Library. But how do I do this 'subclassing' to my form?
At this point I'm assuming I need an entry under the Object Group node of my form. How do I do this?
Thanks in advance.

After you've opened the object library in forms builder, double-click on it and then drag and drop the 2 webutil objects into your form. The object group goes into your object groups node, and the parameter goes into into the parameters node.
Then you need to reorder canvases and blocks so that the webutil components do not appear first when you run the form

Object Group Vs Object Libraries

Hi ,
I have not used Object Groups and Object Libraries extensively....and am trying to understand them
Having read the form builder help ,I am still not clear with the following.
My questions are as follows
1)When should I be giving preference to Object Group over OBL?
2)Why will i use an Object Group ,when an object group's object is just a pointer to the
object in the form module?
Grouping of similar objects for one single form module only,does'nt provide me much benefits?
3)How will I reference an Object group's object and not a form's object which I have
moved into the object group and vice versa?
4)OBL module has a data block(say emp) as one of its many object,
how can I use this data block in my new forms module(will I be copying this data block
object from the attached OBL to the data block node of the form module in OBJECT navigator?).
will i have to create a Layout manually if I use the data block of OBL or will forms
builder automatically create a layout for this OBL data block.?
5)What are the types of objects which CANNOT be included in OBL and Object groups?
I am aware that I can't include an item of a data block if i don't include the data block itself.
rgds
s

Hi,
WIP wrote:
Hi ,
I have not used Object Groups and Object Libraries extensively....and am trying to understand them
Having read the form builder help ,I am still not clear with the following.
My questions are as follows
1)When should I be giving preference to Object Group over OBL?Depends on the requirement. The objects in the Object group are limited to the current form module. However, Object libraries can be used across the forms. Of course, you can subclass this object group in other modules.
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2)Why will i use an Object Group ,when an object group's object is just a pointer to the
object in the form module?Its like a template. You define set of properties (say width, height and font for a text item), and then subclass the object to all the object you create in your form. So, they all will look similar. Also, once after creating the object group, you can add the object group to the object library. This can be very useful.
Grouping of similar objects for one single form module only,does'nt provide me much benefits?
So, here we use Object Library
3)How will I reference an Object group's object and not a form's object which I have
moved into the object group and vice versa?
You cannot reference the individual objects in the object groups.
4)OBL module has a data block(say emp) as one of its many object,
how can I use this data block in my new forms module(will I be copying this data block
object from the attached OBL to the data block node of the form module in OBJECT navigator?).
will i have to create a Layout manually if I use the data block of OBL or will forms
builder automatically create a layout for this OBL data block.?You can add all the Blocks, canvaces, etc to the Object grou, add the object group to the object library. Then, if you just copy/subclass the object group from the Object library, all the blocks, items, canvaces would be created automatically in the target form.
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5)What are the types of objects which CANNOT be included in OBL and Object groups?
I am aware that I can't include an item of a data block if i don't include the data block itself.
Only the Parent objects can be included in the Object Group (Child objects cannot). However, in the Object Library, you can add the parent as well as child objects. Here, for ex, parent is a data block and child are the items inside the data block
-Arun
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rgds
s

Object-group with network-object containing an IP address range

Hello,
Does the ASA treat an object-group with a network-object containing a range of IP addresses as a netmask? For example, I can apply this configuration without the ASA throwing any errors though the configuration calls for a 'net mask':
object-group network test
network-object 192.168.0.0 192.168.63.255
network-object-group mode commands/options:
A.B.C.D Enter an IPv4 network mask
sh run ob id test
object-group network test
network-object 192.168.0.0 192.168.63.255
I found that in the documentation it requires a netmask as oppose to a range. Is this a bug in the code? I am running code version 8.0(5)23 on a 5520. If this is not a bug how does the ASA treat this type of configuration when applied to an access list? When I ran a quick packet trace and denied access from that range it looks like the ASA doesn't read that configuration properly. Thank you.
-John

Hello,
Thank you for your replies. In code version 8.0(5)23, it appears I am able to define a "range" of IP addresses as in:
192.168.0.0 192.168.63.255 as opposed to defining a range with a netmask like 192.168.0.0 255.255.192.0.
With the "range" of IP address applied to the "object-group network test" with sub command "network-object 192.168.0.0 192.168.63.255" the ASA does not pick up on said "range" when this object group is applied to a DENY access list. It only reads it properly when the netmask is attached, which is the correct configuration, as in: "network-object 192.168.0.0 255.255.192.0".
To clarify, I mean range as in 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.63.255.
Hope this helps to understand. I am just curious as to why this is even able to be applied in such a way or if it is a bug in this particular code version? I can also confirm that this can be done in code version 8.4(2). See below snippets of my configuration in the 8.4(2) code version:
access-list 101 line 3 extended deny ip object-group testmask any 0x577f55a8
access-list 101 line 3 extended deny ip 192.168.0.0 192.168.63.255 any (hitcnt=0) 0x0623b0c4
access-list 101 line 4 extended permit tcp any any eq 89 (hitcnt=1) 0x36f1e5cd
Packet trace results in allowing the "range" of IP address:
Result:
input-interface: outside
input-status: up
input-line-status: up
output-interface: dmztest
output-status: up
output-line-status: up
Action: allow
Now with the "correct" configuration:
access-list 101 line 3 extended deny ip object-group testmask any 0x577f55a8
access-list 101 line 3 extended deny ip 192.168.0.0 255.255.192.0 any (hitcnt=1) 0xa31c6bbd
access-list 101 line 4 extended permit tcp any any eq 89 (hitcnt=1) 0x36f1e5cd
Result:
input-interface: outside
input-status: up
input-line-status: up
output-interface: dmztest
output-status: up
output-line-status: up
Action: drop
Drop-reason: (acl-drop) Flow is denied by configured rule
Thank you.
-John

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