Subcontracting process in APO

Hi All,
I am trying to create a typical subconracting process in APO as in R/3.
Questions:
1-Do I have to create a resource in R/3?
2-Do I have to create a routing in R/3?
3-Do I have to create a subcontracting location except vendor location?
4-How should I transfer bom and routing, as PDS or BOM?
I created bom, routing, production version. I transfer it to APO. I receive no error but I do not see PDS in APO. Can anyone please help?
Thanks,
E

Not sure if you are asking in PPDS or SNP context.
The procedures are slightly different
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm41/helpdata/en/f7/626f39ff1ee32ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
You always have a choice to create master data like PPM in APO instead of specifically creating in R/3 and CIFing to APO. PDS however would need to be created in R/3 and CIFed to APO.
Important points:
1. Have to create a Subcontracting Purchase Inforecord that will create a TLane on cifing PIR. So PIR needs to be in an active integration model
2. Have the Subcontracting Vendor in an active integration model
3. Have the plant and material in active integration models
4. If you take PDS route, have the PDS in active integration model. If you take PPM route, you have a choice of creating it in APO/R3.

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Not sure if you are asking in PPDS or SNP context.
The procedures are slightly different
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm41/helpdata/en/f7/626f39ff1ee32ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
You always have a choice to create master data like PPM in APO instead of specifically creating in R/3 and CIFing to APO. PDS however would need to be created in R/3 and CIFed to APO.
Important points:
1. Have to create a Subcontracting Purchase Inforecord that will create a TLane on cifing PIR. So PIR needs to be in an active integration model
2. Have the Subcontracting Vendor in an active integration model
3. Have the plant and material in active integration models
4. If you take PDS route, have the PDS in active integration model. If you take PPM route, you have a choice of creating it in APO/R3.

PPDS Subcontracting Process

Hello Experts,
I am trying to replicate the subcontracting process through PP/DS run.
Business case: Handover the components from the destination location (DEST) to the subcontracting vendor (SUBV) to manufacture the finished goods. There is absolutely no operation that we do related to this. Subcontracting vendor provides us back the finished goods and we sell it.
Steps I followed:
1. For the finished goods product, I have created the BOM which includes the components which we handover to subcontracting vendor.
2. I have defined the finished goods product as procurement type X and Special Procurement key as 30 (Subcontracting)
3. The PDS is created. With production line as Subcontracted workcenter. Routing set up as N.
4. On the APO system, I have created a handling resource and assigned to model 000 and then assigned this Inbound handling resource for the location DEST. Please note that SUBV is not part of our supply chain, we are planning without source location.
5. Inforecord is created as a subcontracting inforecord and Production version is assigned at this Inforecord.
6. SUBV is CIFfed, Part is CIFfed, PDS is CIFfed, Subcontracting Inforecord is CIFfed and it created the transportation lane as well and default means of transport is assigned (and not product specific means of transport). Also there is no transportation resource assigned to this means of Transport.
7. Now when I ran the PP/DS Heuristics, it creates a Planned order. At this point, there is no subcontracting purchase req or order created on ERP system. And we don't CIF the planned order as well to ERP.
8. Now I trigger the convert planned order to production order manually by setting the conversion indicator. At this moment, a production order of type PP01 is created on ERP system. And this production order is also visible on APO system.
But the issue is still there is no Subcontracting purchase requisition or Subcontracting purchase order created in the ERP system. Is there something else like a basic settings which I am basically missing? Or is there anything wrong in my steps?
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Hi Shankar,
Yup, I can see the PDS. And regarding the second point, planned order is created as Inhouse. And it doesn't choose the subcontracting PReqs. I see the following error message, if I try to change the source of supply as Externally procured. I have maintained the Inbound Handling resource on DEST location. But I haven't maintained any transportation resource. Is there anything I am doing wrong?
Subcontracting PurchReq from location SUBV to loation DEST not created
Message no. /SAPAPO/RRP156
Diagnosis
The following causes are possible:
No handling resource has been specified in one of the locations involved.
No transportation resource has been specified in the transportation lane between the locations.
These resources must be available for subcontracting since the system executes detailed scheduling for the relevant orders on the basis of the resource calendar. (The relevant orders are a purchase requisition in your own location and a planned order at the subcontractor's location. The orders are linked by a cross-order relationship.)
System Response
The system cannot create the subcontracting purchase requisition.
Procedure
Enter the resources required in the location or in the transportation lane.
Thanks,
Suresh

Supply chain modeling of subcontraction process using SNP

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I am in the phase of designing my supply chain business process in APO
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Plant u2013 B (distribution center)
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Subcon-2
Subcon-3
Subcon-4
Subcon-5
Subcon-6
Subcon-7
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Customer
Products
And Plant
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Does SNP Optimizer can serve my requirement
Also how do I need to define my subcontractor either as DC location or just a MRP area
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Hi Raju,
The Optimizer should serve your requirement as it considers the capacity constraints and can be used for finite planning. Regarding subcontracting location , you can map it as either a DC location or a Subcontractor location. Better way would be to map it as a subcontracting location. Mapping it as just MRP area would not serve as you want it to consider during the finite planning runs for optimizer.
Let me know if it helps
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Subcontracting in PP/APO - Fabless

Hi SAP Gurus,
I am supporting Semiconductor client. So far we have been doing some of the production activities inhouse and some of them were subcontracted. Now we are planning to move to complete subcontracting and doing nothing at the plant location. they call it fabless methodology.
In such a scenario, please advise on what are all the challenges we may face and methodology to apply for modules like APO and PP-PI.
As and when clear cut business requirements are laid out, i may want to reach out to you all on this.
Please share your thougths.
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Hi,
Here are my thoughts,
1. You can use PPDS or SNP subcontracting process, if you want to plan the production at Subcontractor location. By using PPDS or SNP, the capacity constraints at the vendor locations can also be planned. For further details, refer the below link.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/EN/68/f3593b0972fa72e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/43/0bdaf1fe6a21ace10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm
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Error while releasing Billing document in Subcontract process

Hi All,
We are working on Subcontract process as explained below:
Company code X purchases the component A and sends it to Company code Y on Subcontract. Company codes X and Y belongs to one company using single operative chart of Accounts, Controlling area & operating concern. FI configuration has been maintained in OBYA by treating above company codes Inter company GLs. The component A is sent to company code Y as non value added item. Through 501 movement type, as the component is sent by Company code X.
Company code Y will add some components (like B,C and charges some expenses as service component D for preparing Finished good) and send this FG to Company code X. For this company code Y will raise a Sales order and followed by MRP run and Production order is created.
In VA02 of above Sales Order, while entering Item details, where the Settlement rule is asking for PA Transfer structure (in Account assignment tab of Item details) and giving the following error analysis:
Enter a PA transfer structure
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Diagnosis
A PA transfer structure is required for settlement to profitability analysis.
System Response
You cannot save this settlement rule.
Procedure
Enter a PA transfer structure. To do this, choose the "Parameters" function in the settlement rule. As part of customizing, you can also store a default value for the PA analysis structure, in the settlement profile. The system then uses this default value when you enter a settlement rule.
In addition to above, another issue has raised while releasing the Billing document after doing PGI. Accounting document is not getting generated and while releasing the Billing document (VF02) it is throwing an error as
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2. All cost element and Cost element categories have been maintained
3. From MM side the system is generating FI & CO documents
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5. In VKOA condition types KOFI and KOFK were maintained for relevant Customer & Material Account Assignment groups.
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Thanks in advance.

Hi,
check in the sales order line item procurement tab . u can get the requirement type. in SPRo check the requiremnt class for the requirement type. in that requirement clas u will get settrlemnt profile for the sales order. Check that settlemnt profile there u have to maintain the PA transfer structure.
I think both problem will get solved by maintaing the PA structure..
You are doing sales order costing right....and i hope it is non vsaluated sales order costing .....
If help ful please assign points.
cheers
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Goods Receipt in Subcontracting process

Hi,
I am beginner in SAP.
This is regarding Goods Receipt in Subcontracting process.
I have provided raw material Quantity = 100 Nos. to subcontracting vendor.
Subcontracting vendor done machining on 80 Quantity, and we have done Goods Receipt for 80 Quantity as Finished Parts.
Subcontracting vendor found 20 Quantity as Defected.
Shall I take back 20 Quantity by Movement Type 542.
OR
Shall I do Goods Receipt of 20 Quantity as Finished Product and price = 0. & then stock transfer of Finished to Raw Material.
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Hi,
It depends on what you want your subcontractor to do with the faulty raw material stock - if you want them to scrap it you can scrap stock from subcontractor stock using movement type 551 and special stock "O" (the system should prompt you to enter the vendor code). If you want it returned for you to scrap it - movement 542 to return it then scrap it from your own stock.
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Error M7019 BAPI_GOODSMVT_CREATE - Subcontracting process

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I am developing a subcontracting process and using the BAPI_GOODSMVT_CREATE to return the goods, but when I do the low inputs (mov 543) the BAPI returns the following message.
TYPE       E
ID               M7
NUMBER      19
MESSAGE Combination of movement type 543 and function selected not possible
LOG_NO
LOG_MSG_NO     0
MESSAGE_V1        543
MESSAGE_V2
MESSAGE_V3
MESSAGE_V4
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Has anyone experienced this? Would have any suggestions?
Thanks
Sandra Avila

Hi,
Successfully execute the BAPI using the help of SAP
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPSCM/HowToGoodsMovementswith+BAPI#HowToGoodsMovementswithBAPI-MoreinformationonLINEIDandPARENTID
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Serial numbers for subcontracting process

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We are using SAP ECC 6.0 and trying to implement the subcontracting process with serial numbers. This scenario is focused on those materials that we need to keep track on how many times it has gone to repair (for example, a motor) by specific item. Suppose there's a material called "Material A". However, there are MANY "Motor A"'s, and thus, the need for serial number to keep track on the number of repairs each one has had.
So, having said that, the scenario is working so far. However, the user CAN'T type in the serial number of the material at the REQUISITION LEVEL. This can be done at the PO level and at the goods receipt level.
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Hi,
Serial no can be used for the following business transactions.
1. Goods Receipt/Goods isssue and other inventory postings.
2.sales orders and delivery notes
3.maintenance orders
4.production orders.
Settings:
1. create a serial number profile in customising.
2. Assign the serial number profile in the material master record in work
scheduling view for fert and raw material in plant data / stor2 view..
Business procedures may be assigned in configuration to a serial number profile.
The assignment to the serial number profile determines if serial numbers are required , can be assigned, must be assigned,are assigned automatically
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I have one doubt regarding the third party subcontracting process. I have created a PO with delivery address as that of SC vendor.
Now how to do the GR for components if the SC vendor lets me know that he has received the materials from the 3rd party vendor??
Can someone tell me the process after a PO is created for this scenario???
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Umakanth.

Hi,
As I perceive you are speaking about the provision of subcontracting components from one of your vendor directly to another one,
In this case you did well if you wrote the vendorID in the suitable field on 'Delivery address' tab of your PO. 'SC Vendor' thickbox should be also checked. This is not the subcontracting PO itself, it is only a PO to procure the components for subcontracting - your SC vendor receive the components directly. That's why there's no point in speaking about 'L' item category.
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There is no restrication that Automatic PO will not be created if the PR is created from the Sales Order.
Please elobarate on the exact error you are getting.
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Subcontract Process with vendor supplied component

Hi,
We have a subcontracting process, when we send 3 components to the vendor, the vendor apply another component and return the semi finished to me.
I have a BOM of this semi finished Good that includes all the 4 components.
We sent the 3 components via mb1b.
We create a PO of the Semi Finished Good if we verified the components the 4 components are there.
When we try to receive via MIGO and click in verify The 3 itens that I send is OK ... But the item that is supplied by the vendor show me an error message that there is no stock.
What should I do to receive the component supplied by the vendor ?

Hello,
1. Create subcontracting with item category "L" and second line item in same PO enter with Item cateogroy means STD.
2. Item level of the Delivery address tab, tick SC Vendor and enter the same Vendor code there.
3.Go for GR for only for 2nd line item first. This stock will automatically picks 101 O Mvt, and u can view this stock as Vendor stock.
Check MMBE stock overview , Material is showing provided to Vendor at plant level.
4. Provide other 3 components with MB1B- 541 Mvt.
5. Go for second GR for finished Product.
4th Material shown as Material provided to Vendor in stock overview. if you want to get back that same material to your stock. reverse that stock use t code MB1B with help of Movement type 542.
Or else.
Through subsequnet settelement you can send the 4th Material to your subcontrcator MB04.
Regards
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Tables for subcontracting process

Hi All,
Pls tell the tables for components in subcontracting process.
Regards
Sunil

Hi
After creating a subcontacting po, it will update the following tables
RESB , EKET , EKKO, EKPO
Join the two tables RESB and EKET with RSNUM , PO NUmber, Line item as the linking field, if u pass the PO Number in the EKET Table then you can able to see all the components that you have mentioned in the PO for the Final Product. This component is not from the Material BOM , its from what you have maintained in the PO.
Pls clarify in your query , completing means closing the PO with GR,IR or just PO creation.
Regards
Amuthan M.
Edited by: Amuthan M on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM

G/L accounts updation in subcontracting process

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i request you provide details of G/L accounts while ;1) updation while we supply materials to vendor
2) while we recieve the finshed product.3) And while settlement to vendor.
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Ramesh kumar.

Hi,
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GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
Compon. stock account : 100 -
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Posting schema with price differences:
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Price difference : 50 -
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External service acct : 250 +
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the accounts for the BSX FRL and GBB-VOB needs the cost elements
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Edited by: venkatesh kumar on May 11, 2010 12:46 PM

Options in excise tab ( subcontracting Process)

HI,
Subcontracting business process
i am getting No excise duty, Create RG23D, and create RG23D for existing excise invoice options in Excise invoice tab at MIGO.
i have checked above settings in the system...but still the same error
please suggest
Regards,
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Hi,
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