G/L accounts updation in subcontracting process
Hi,
i request you provide details of G/L accounts while ;1) updation while we supply materials to vendor
2) while we recieve the finshed product.3) And while settlement to vendor.
Thanks & Regards,
Ramesh kumar.
Hi,
If Material has Price Control as "V" (MAP)
(BSX) Stock A/c of Assembly - Dr
(BSV) Change in Subcon Stock - Cr
(FRL) Subcontracting Charges - Dr
(WRX) GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
(BSX) Stock A/c of Components - Cr
(GBB-VBO) Consumption A/c of Components - Dr
If Material has Price Control as "S" (Std. Price)
If Material is having Price Control as "S" then Price Difference A/c will also in picture.
This depends on configuration; SPRO > MM > Inventory Management and Physical Inventory > Goods Receipt > Price Differences for Subcontract Orders at Goods Receipt
Price Differences for Subcontract Orders at Goods Receipt
In this step, you configure for each valuation area whether price differences are generated for a Subcontract order at the time of a goods receipt if the manufactured material is managed at standard price and the standard price varies from the receipt value (externally performed service + value of components + delivery costs).
Example
Finished product: $400 (value at standard price)
Subcontract order:
o Ext. service : $250
o Components : $100
Posting schema without price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 400 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
Compon. stock account : 100 -
Consumption account : 100 +
Posting schema with price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 350 -
Price difference : 50 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
Compon. stock account : 100 -
Consumption account : 100 +
And cost center is mandatory for subcontracting process
the accounts for the BSX FRL and GBB-VOB needs the cost elements
Sometimes if you have freight the key FRN also gets used.
Edited by: venkatesh kumar on May 11, 2010 12:46 PM
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Could you please help me with the scenario of account hitting in Subcontracting process during GR and IR?
There are three scenarios to be considered:
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3) Standard price control with price difference.
I would give full points if you can help me.
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What are the accounts that will hit while doing subcontracting process?
Hi Raj,
In Case of Sub contract
While doing Transfer Posting (Providing material to vendor) in MB1B or ME2O only Material document will be generated. No Accounting Document will be generated.
While Receiving the Finished / Semifinished material both Material and Accounting documents will get generated and the accounting entries will be as under
1. Stock Account (finished Account) BSX - Debits
2. GR/IR clearing Account WRX - Credits
3. Change in Stock Account BSV - Credits
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Steps in Subcontracting Process
Dear Experts,
In Subcontracting process if the subcontracting period of 180 days is completed and if material is still with Vendor, how to complete the process.
Also how to reverse the Cenvat Credit.And how cmplete/reconcile the challan.
Please explain detail steps and Tcode.
Thanks and Regards,
Sapmm userSub Contracting Cycle
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product ) 0
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
(5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
Process of Subcontract in MM
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Note:: At the Time of GR 543 Mvt is up dated for Raw Material.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to be created for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Info record and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
u2013 You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
u2013 If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
u2013 You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order. -
Hi
If any one can explain in detail about scenario material vendor posting directly to subcontracting vendor
It 's very urgent
Thanks & Regards,
SadhishHi Sadhish,
Sub Contracting Cycle
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
(5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
Process of Subcontract in MM
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to becreated for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Inforecord and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
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When you print the purchase order, the components are printed per order item
Subcontracting - Key Points
Special Procurement Process.
Item category: L
Order type: NB
In info record vendor should be maintained as subcontractor.
Vendor (Subcontractor) receives the components used to manufacture a finished product directly from your company or through third party.
Your company should place a purchase order for the finished product. In this manually you can enter the required individual components or it can be determined via the explosion of BOM (if exists).
Stock check at vendor level: ME2O
Company stock check: MMBE
GR for individual components through movement type: 501 or 561 (if with out PO or without reference).
GI to subcontracting vendor: through movement type 541.
GR from sub contracting vendor: through movement type: 101
Movement type 543 is displayed to cancel the material cost account.
If the subcontracting order has to be generated through materials planning,the special procurement key has to be set in MRP 2 screen.
- To create the Subcon Info Record : Tcode ME11 - Info Category - Click Subcontracting
- To create Material BOM : Tcode CS01
- With the Info and Material Setup, you can then create the Purchase Order in Tcode ME21N
Hope it wud have answered ur question
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Hi,
We have one business scenario , from Plant 1 we are sending the materials for heat treatment to plant 2.
In Plant 2 , they are doing the heat treatment process for the material which we have provided and they are send the material back to plant 1.
Please let me know the process which we need to adopt in SAP.
Regards
Suresh SHi,
we have already maintained the scenario,
1.We follow Subcontract process with the component maintained in both plants,
The subcon process help in maintaining the cost of the material and also the process is easy,
2.With STO PO send the component to the other plant and make GRN,After processed the component,
make STO PO and send with the same process,But it contains difficult to maintained the cost,
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Procedure
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3. From MM side the system is generating FI & CO documents
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Note: BAPI_PO_CHANGE is not useful for me.
Thanks and Regards,
Atul.Hi Muralidhara,
Can you please give some more details for this BAPI..
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What are the accounts generated in subcontracting in MM module?
I want the account transactions which are debitd and credited in subcontracting transaction from MM point of view?
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Here is the Complete Sub Contracting Cycle and Accounts
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
(5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
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Customer GL Account Updates by Creating a Sales Order
Dear all,
I would like to know detailed information about customer GL Account updates based on Sales Order creation.
We have a POS system, there we are creating Sales Orders for the customers.
As per my knowledge by creating a sales order system is performing the following jobs.
Debiting Customer Account
Crediting Sales Account.
Please suggest me that my understanding is right or not.
What else job is performed with regards to financial accounts for the customer.
Where can I see these updations at each level starting from Sales Order creation, Delivery and Invoice.
Please educate to get a clear idea of the process. your suggestions will be highly appreciated.
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Raghu RamHi,
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sales order no accounting effect
goods deleivery to customer
COGS a/c dr
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customer a/c dr
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Hi Experts,
In Intercompany third party subcontracting process, PR is created from the sales order. PR has the account assignment category X and Item Category L.
Fixed source of supply exists. Subcontracting Info record has been created.
Material components icon has been deactivated as it is generating from Sales order.
While using ME59N, it throws Requisition could not be converted. One of our collegues told that if the subcontracting item has been automatically generated from SD Module, then ME59N will not convert the PR to PO.
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PrabhuThere is no restrication that Automatic PO will not be created if the PR is created from the Sales Order.
Please elobarate on the exact error you are getting.
However please follow & check if these general settings are in place.
1.Material has the auto PO checked in Material Master.
2. Vendor has the Auto PO checked in Vendor Master.
3.Source list is maintained if material master has source list checked.
4.Valid conditions exist in the Sub Contracting info record.
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Tables for subcontracting process
Hi All,
Pls tell the tables for components in subcontracting process.
Regards
SunilHi
After creating a subcontacting po, it will update the following tables
RESB , EKET , EKKO, EKPO
Join the two tables RESB and EKET with RSNUM , PO NUmber, Line item as the linking field, if u pass the PO Number in the EKET Table then you can able to see all the components that you have mentioned in the PO for the Final Product. This component is not from the Material BOM , its from what you have maintained in the PO.
Pls clarify in your query , completing means closing the PO with GR,IR or just PO creation.
Regards
Amuthan M.
Edited by: Amuthan M on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM -
Hai every body,
Q) can any body tell me which G/L accounts get updated in subcontracting scenario?during Goods receipt, goods issue, Invoice.
Points will be rewarded.
Rgds,
K.Praveenhi,
There are basically 6 accounts hit in a SC scenario.
1. BSX- Inventory Posting of Finished Products Debit
2. WRX- GR/IR Account Credit
3. BSV/GBB/VBR- Inventory Change WIP Account Credit
4. FRL- Purchased Services (Vendor Account) Debit
5. BSX- Inventory Posting Raw Material Credit
6. BSV/GBB- Raw Material Consumption Account Debit
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FICO Impact for Subcontracting process
Hi Experts,
can u please explain the impact of Subcontracting Process (specialy in GR/IR) On the FICO area, with transaction keys (FRL ....) involved.
thank u very mutch.
NB: If u have a doc on this please send on [email protected]
Thanx In advance.
S.DHi
Suppose you have semi finish product for which subcontractor consumed one raw material from you,then while doing GR and IR your accounting entries are as follows:--
While making GR:-
1.Dr in Stock accountBSX.OP+RMP
2.Cr in Change in stock accountBSVOP+RMP3.Dr in External activityFRL.OP
4.Cr in GR/IR clearing acctWRXOP
5.Dr in Raw material consumption acctGBB(VBO).RMP
6.Cr in Stock acct of raw martlBSX.RMP
OP:-Operating price or labour price
RMP:-Raw material price.
While making IR:-
1.Cr in Vendor account--OP+Tax or deviation
2.Dr in GR/IR clearing AcctWRXOP
3.Dr. in Tax account(Input)--VST maintained in Tcode OB40-Tax or deviation.
FRL transaction key used for posting your labour cost and same will be credited in your GR/IR clearing acct.
Because in subcontracting you only pay for Subcontractor's Labour charges.
Reward if it helps
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