Subcontracting with pay of Excise Duty

Dear All,
In Subcontracting with pay of Excise Duty,
How much % i have to maintain in Condition Type JEXC & how could i get the accounting entry mention below in MIGO & Excise flow in BED,ECS & SECS fields.
CENVAT Input BED - Dr
CENVAT Input ECS - Dr
CENVAT Input SECess - Dr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
Plz suggest...........
Thanks

Hi,
Indeed, in subcontracting process u donot need to pay any excise despite the material sending to the vendor is excisable one. Here in this process:
1. U have to create a subcontract challan with J1IF01 and take a print out of the challan with j1if13 and send with subcon material.
2. Transfer the material from our stocks to subcontractor vendor with 541 movement type.
If the material is not received from the vendor with in 180 days u have to pay the CENVAT credit amount taken at the time of purchasing.
And, u can take the credit again after receiving the material again using J1IFQ.
If it is of inventorised excise type, u donot need to think of it as the values r gets added to the material at the the time of purchasing itself.
Regards,
Bhuvan

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Dear Gurus,
We have done full process of job work without payment of excise duty. but we also want job work with payment of excise duty. we didn't found any way to do this job.
When we make subcontracting entry with 541 mvt type and then make its excise challan with J1IF01, the all field related to excise value is disable thats why we can not put the value in it.
Please suggest something.
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Hi
As per my knowledge,If you are sending your material with full excise value to your subcontracting vendor means its one type of saleing
Here you are sending material material with excise duty means its sure you dont get back your material in 180 days ,so while doing finsihed material your vendor will send finsihded material along excise value and you will capture tha excise value
I think In this scenario subcontracting Challan don't come in Picture
steps are follows
subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Capture Vendor Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
Post Excise Invoice for FG received from Subcontractor (J1IEX)
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Kailas Ugale

Subcontracting with excise

Hello experts ,
Could u pls enlist the step by step procedure subcontracting scenario in which excisable material is sent out
Regards

Dear,
Please find the complete flow process for SUB CONTRACTING for your kind perusal.
"Award, if helpful"
Regards,
Prashanth Pai
3 Procurement of Subcontracting Materials u2013 Business Process Procedure
3.1 Procurement of Subcontracting Materials
3.1.1 Purpose
In Indian subcontracting process when you issue materials to a subcontractor, you need to keep track of what materials you have issued and when they have to be returned by subcontractor. The reason for this close monitoring has to do with Indian tax law. Under excise law 57AC, when you send materials to a subcontractor for processing, you are not required to pay any excise duty, even though the materials have left your premises. However, if the materials have not been returned to you within 180 days specified by the law, you will have to reverse any excise credit that you posted when you have purchased the materials. When you send material out of your factory premises you need to send with 57F4 Challan. In this process you are going to do the same.
3.1.2 Prerequisites
The following scenario specific master data must be created for operation of this building block and subsequent dependent building blocks.
u2022 Material Master record
u2022 Vendor Master record
u2022 Purchasing Info Record (Optional)
Ensure that Sub-Contracting as Info Category.
u2022 CIN Master Data (Refer User Manual u2013 Procurement of Stock Materials (Domestic))
o Chapter IDs
o Material ID and chapter ID combination (Ensure Sub-Contract check box is selected for the Materials that provided to vendor)
o CENVAT Determination
o Vendor Excise Details
o Excise Indicator for Plants
o Excise Indicator for Plant and Vendor
o Excise Tax Rates
3.2 Creation of Subcontracting Purchase Order
3.2.1 Use
A purchase order is a legal document used to record an individual purchase with the vendor. It also provides the vendor with a reference document to link to goods receipt and invoice verification processes. The purchase order is a commitment to a vendor for a given subcontracting activity, in a specified quantity at a predetermined price and delivery date.
3.2.2 Prerequisites
Components stock should be available for providing to subcontracting vendor.
3.2.3 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Purchasing  Purchase Order  CreateVendor/Supplying Plant Known
Transaction code ME21N
3.3 Message Output
3.3.1 Use
A Purchase Order needs to be printed for transmitting to vendor.
3.3.2 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Purchasing  Purchase Order  Messages  Print/Transmit
Transaction code ME9F
3.4 Transfer of Components to Subcontractor
3.4.1 Use
The Nature of subcontracting purchase order is that company will provide components to subcontractor. This process describes how to transfer post materials to subcontractor.
3.4.2 Prerequisites
Sufficient stocks of components should be available for making transfer posting.
3.4.3 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Inventory Management  Goods Movement  Transfer posting
Transaction code MB1B
3.5 Creation of Subcontracting Challan
3.5.1 Use
It is statutory requirement to send the components to subcontractor with 57F4 Challan.
3.5.2 Prerequisites
u2022 Select the Sub-Contracting Material in Material and Chapter ID Combination of the Excise Master (J1ID) for the sending Material.
u2022 Ensure that the details of the receiving Material maintained in the Excise Master (J1ID).
u2022 CENVAT Determination of the Excise Master (J1ID) Maintained for the both sending and receiving Material.
u2022 Ensure that the Assessable value for the sending material is maintained in the Excise Master (J1ID)
3.5.3 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP User menu
CIN Menu Indirect Taxes  Procurement  Subcontracting  Subcontracting Challans  Create
Transaction code J1IF01
Printing of Subcontracting Challan
3.6.1 Use
It is statutory requirement to send the components to subcontractor with 57F4 Challan.
3.6.2 Procedure
Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP User menu
CIN Menu Indirect Taxes  Procurement  Subcontracting  Subcontracting Challans  Change
Transaction code J1IF11
3.7 Goods Receipt for Purchase Order
3.7.1 Use
Normally Goods are received from the Vendor as a result of a Purchase Order at the receiving plant
3.7.2 Prerequisites
Purchase Order
3.7.3 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Inventory Management  Goods Movement  Goods Receipt  For Purchase Order  PO Number Known
Transaction code MIGO
3.8 Reconciling Subcontracting Challan
3.8.1 Use
After making Goods Receipt the GR has to be reconciled with the challan sent to subcontractor.
3.8.2 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP User menu
CIN Menu Indirect Taxes  Procurement  Subcontracting  Subcontracting Challans  Reconcile Quantity
Transaction code J1IFQ
3.9 Completing/Reversal/Re-credit Subcontracting Challan
3.9.1 Use
This transaction is basically used to complete the challan if you have reconciled as stated above step. There may be cases subcontractor may not able to supply within stipulated 180 days limit then in this case also same transaction is used for reversal of challan or re-crediting the amount.
3.9.2 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP User menu
CIN Menu Indirect Taxes  Procurement  Subcontracting  Subcontracting Challans  Complete/Reverse/Recredit
Transaction code J1IF13
3.10 Logistics Invoice Verification for Subcontracting Material
3.10.1 Use
In this process of Logistics Invoice Verification all the Incoming Invoices are verified in terms of their content, prices and arithmetic. When the invoice is posted, the invoice data is saved in the system. The system updates the data saved in the invoice documents in Materials Management and Financial Accounting.
3.10.2 Procedure
1. Access the transaction choosing one of the following navigation options:
SAP R/3 menu Logistics  Materials Management  Logistics invoice Verification  Document Entry  Enter Invoice
Transaction code MIRO

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Hi chandu, you maintain a A blank material in J1ID ( ONLY SPACE under material coulmn) and other details as usual.
You issue will be resolved.
for eg
s.no___Material__________________plant_____Chap id ____mat typ
1___ blank( dont enter anything) ___1000_______ abc_____ Raw material
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Edited by: KRISHNA AKULA on Jan 28, 2011 7:08 AM
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Excise duty payable difference amount

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i have question please help me with this.
Step 1)
We procure gas from xxx company and send the same gas from our tank A to tank B( which is outside the plant), through pipes,
in this process we have sent 100 kgs of gas rs 50 per KG, from Tank A to tank B
so for this we have paid Excise duty RS 625 to Excise department
Step 2) Now we made sales to customer but during transportation,10ks of gas exhausted ,so we made sale for 90ks @50 per kg and customer paid
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Are you using STO process for transferring the gas from Tank A to Tank B? Are these two Plants created as an Excisable Manufacturing plants?
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HI expert
I have duty free plant ie EOU, where at the time of Procurement i dont pay duty for material and some the same material i will use for export basis.
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1.for the same material now i use it for local sale purpose, so now i have to pay the full duty for which i have done import procurement and i want to load on the same material.
2. i am doing STO from EOU plant to to another plant, for the same the excise people of the eou plant tell me to pay the Excise duty first then send and i have to load ll the duties on material and.
How should i achieve this scenario
Regard
Nabil

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For any excise free zone,the excise amount should be loaded to material cost at the time of GR as per procurement cycle.for that you need to use the non-deductible excise conditions for BED(JMIP), ECess(JECI) and SECess(JSEI).So the amount populated in those condition types will be loaded automatically to the material cost at the time of GR.
In the same way when you are transferring the material from excisable plant to non-excisable Plant,the excise amount to be captured from the supplying plant and while doing inbound delivery the excise cost will be sumed off with the material cost.In the reverse case there is a loss of excise,So I hope this is not a allowed business otherwise in the excise Plant you have to make Gr by selecting No excise in the excise Tab at header of the MIGO.
Hope this will solve your query.
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Send the Material without excise duty to different plant for modifcation

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My scenario is I want to send the one tool for modification to One(Vendor)
means Plant ABC is in Different company code and XYZ is in different company code.
I want to send one tool for modification to Plant XYZ.without paying the excise duty. bcz that Plant is nearer to me(XyZ plant is Infront of ABC plant).But Both are having the same company.But having the different company codes
Both Plants are having the Same excise region. I want to send the Tool for modification to that plant.
If i go for Subcontracting then.. Procedure is long create PR to Invoice.... How should i minimise this issuse... without paying the duty.
regards
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Dear Sir,
I configure Excisable depot.
STO Process
we created purchase order in which price is mentioned 1000 for a material, and we did delivery ,proforma invoice and excise invoice ( Price of material 1000, Excise Duty is BED 100 Ecs 2 H Ecss 1) through J1IIN and we have done Goods receipt through MIGO while doing MIGO we have given Base Value 1000 ,BED 100, ECS 2, H Ecs 1 and J1IG document also created.
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As per excise law in India, whenever there is a price escalation happens in a depot we have to create a document called "A Certificate" by paying additional excise duty on the differencial amount between STO price and Depot sales price. Because when you post incoming excise duty in J1IG after MIGO at depot, system captures BED, CESS & E.CESS as per the chapter ID of the material being transported from the factory and based on this Excise duty value for STO is calculated.
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J1ILN >Indirect taxes>Procurement->Excise invoice->For Depot--> J1IGA Acertificate entry at Depot
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Raw Material (excise duty paid) scrapped at the stage of Production.

Dear Experts,
Excise duties applicable (and paid) raw Material is scrapped due to damage in Production. This material is not returned to vendor.
Excise duty has been paid, Excise entries are updated.
As per the central government excise rules, how this material is to be treated. Also please explain SAP CIN point of view. I have to run this business process in SAP.
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U can srap that material and u can sell the scrap at that time u dont need to pay the excise duty applicable on to the Raw material. But the excise duty liable on Scrap only.
u cannot writoff the Raw material once used for prodution.
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sujit

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Iam aware of the subcontracting process STEPS, but my query is while dealing with Excise in Subcontracting process, will the Excise duties captured in J1IS(create outgoing excise invoice) be RECONCILED with excise duties captured in J1IEX(subcontractor's excise invoice). As per my scenario both the duties are different unlike reconciliation process in the process without excise duty. My questions are
1.Do both excise duties during j1is and j1iex should be same or can it be different (since in j1is we capture Duties on raw material's assesable value where as in j1iex we capture duties semi finished goods given by sub contractor.)
2.Kindly eloborate treatment of excise duties captured in these steps.
Revert if you didnt understand this scenarion.
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Sravanthi.Y

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57fc challan will be issued when we send raw materials to subcontractors WITHOUT EXISE DUTY.Hence not relevant in my case. But my case is WITH excise duty.we send subcontractor the excise invoice by using j1is. later he will process these raw materials and will give back the semi finished goods along with excise invoice(which we will capture n post using j1iex). so my question will excise duties differ in j1is(excise invoice TO subcontractor) and in j1iex(excise duty FROM subcontractor)?

Subcontracting process with excise duty??

hi all
Can anybody explain me about the subcontracting scenario with excise duty??
For example , i have cerated subcontracting PO for A material is finished material is exciseable.
To produce A material , i have provided ,B,C,D materials to subcontractor , those materials also exciseable .
this is my scenario , explain me with transaction code (Step by Step).
Explain me about excise duty accounting folw for above scenario.??
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During J1IS: -
CENVAT Payable BED - Cr
CENVAT Payable ECS - Cr
CENVAT Payable SECess - Cr
Excise Duty Paid - Dr
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CENVAT Input ECS - Dr
CENVAT Input SECess - Dr
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Hi experts
Can anybody explain me , how subcontracting procees haes been done with excsie duty ?
In short somebody can explain me here only , with any link.
I should know , how the excise invoice has being created and how capture and post the same will be happened ??
While sending the material for job work. the excise duty value 'll be less .
While receving as finished goods from subcontractor excise value will be more , so hopw this will happen in real time .....???????
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Your scenario comes under u201CSubcontracting Under Full Payment of Dutyu201D .
The basic requirement is that in your pricing you should have manual condition (JEXC) for entering the excise duty of the finished goods which you are getting from the subcontractor.
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2. Do the transfer posting of the child components.
3. Based on this transfer posting document create a out going excise invoice at J1IS. Here what ever the excise duties comes
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4. After this physical send the child components along with the excise invoice.
5. Later the subcontractor process those child components and send you the finished goods along with his excise invoice.
    This excise invoice will contains the excise duty applicable on the finished material. Anyway you have maintained this at the
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9. Finally do the payment by MIRO to the subcontracting vendoru2026
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Can u tell me please
In subcontracting with full payment of excise duty I have created PO,sent material to stock provided to vendor (541).while creating outgoing excise invoice with referance to material doc.(MATD)
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GL account has not been assigned for MSUSP in customization
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Diagnosis
GL account has not been assigned for the excise a/c in customization
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Roc

hi
please check this customization setting
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Hello friends,
Can u plz give the complete configuration details for setting up Subcontracting with full payment of excise duty, Cenvat, Edcess.
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Process Flow for Sub contracting with Excise duty
1)The purchasing clerk creates a subcontract order for the subcontractors srvices.
2)The warehouseman creates a transfer posting for the materials that you want to send to the subcontractor.
3)The excise clerk creates an outgoing excise invoice for the materials.
4)You send the materials to the subcontractor, together with the excise invoice.
5)The subcontractor processes the materials and returns them to you, together with another excise invoice.
6)The excise clerk captures the subcontractors excise invoice, using the purchase order as the reference document.
7)The warehouseman enters the goods receipt.
8)The excise supervisor posts excise invoice.
The accounts payable clerk posts the subcontractors invoice.
For this one only u require Account dtermination for ETT for OTHER in Logistic general-Tax on goods movement-India-Account determianation.
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