Synchronous message QOS in PI 7.1 and pipeline services QOS

Hi All,
As I understand,PI uses pipelines services (other than integrated Configuration based on AAE) for routing and mapping.Synchronous messages have QOS as BE.If they are also implemented as pipelines services,how does the QOS of pipeline queues (ie EO/EOIO) relate to QOS of BE.
Some how thinking of queues always relates to asyn messages(other than temp or request/response queues),so I am bit confused how a synchronous message flow uses pipelines queues which are asyn in nature.
Regards,
Premjit

Hi Premjit,
please refer to chapter 7 in the link below for more info on this.
http://www.sap-press.de/download/dateien/2221/sappress_netweaver_process_integration.pdf
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Deepak.

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Hello,
And how can I do the archiving because in the retention period screen, there are only indications for asynchronous messages for archiving:
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Hello Experts,
As successfully processed synchronous messages cannot be archived in PI and I have gone through the various documents and threads(mentioned below) in SDN which also confirm this point.
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Can synchronous messages (EO) be archived in XI?
But if the requirement is to archive the successfully processed synchronous messages,what can be the other possible ways and what are the points needs to be considered for performance.Kindly suggest me the best and easy way of doing this.
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Checking the data weather is duplicate or not (ie, its already resides in Rev application) would sure require to use of lookup or BPM.
>
SUNIL SINGH wrote:
> I want to avoid the processing of duplicate message. My scenario is HTTP to SOAP (sync)...
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