System copy questions

Let's assume we have two CRM systems CRD(dev&qas system) & CRP(prd system), and corresponding R/3 systems R3D & R3P, As I read some documents concenring system copy within CRM, I still have doubt on the transport strategy.
on CRD, After making the manual customizing and finish test replication of customizing/master data/transaction data from R3D, we would like to transport the customzing to CRP, and corresponding customizing from R3D to R3P. But I am not sure:
1. Only manual customizing in CRD will be transported to CRP? how about the customizing object download from R3D(e.g. condition customizing), are they also transported to CRP or need replication again from R3P?
2. the organizational model transported or need replication again?
3. internet user transported or need replciation again?
4. RFC destination transported or need cusotomizing again in CRP?
5. If I use the same logical system name in CRD & CRP, is there anything I should pay attention to?
6. number range transported or need cusotomizing again in CRP?
7. how about the java applications, like ISA web shop xcm settings?
Patrick

Hi Patrick,
1 - You must do an initial download of the R/3 adapter objects such as customising and business data in each system.
2 - Manually set it up in each system.  If it is large then there is a transport program RHMOVE30.
3 - Users must be created in each system.
4 - RFC destination created in each system and all initial set up done (table CRMRFCPAR for example in R/3 prd)
5 - Create a new logical system name, don't use the same as dev.
6 - Transport the number range (this should have been done when creating it).  If this hasn't been done already then best to do it start in production due to the current number will not be at the start in dev
7 - should be on different server so would require new xcm settings to point to the different production server
Cheers
Andrew

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