System datafile block corruption - no backups and database in NOARCHIVELOG mode

Dear All,
Database version - oracle 11.1 Enterprise
OS - RHELinux 5.8
What are the options of recovering from physical block corruption when there are no backup available to perform block media recovery?
V$DATABASE_BLOCK_CORRUPTION reports two segments corrupted (please see attached image for details).
1 table in system datafile - sys_fba_barrierscn
1 index - (applicaiton index)
What are my options?
I know there is a possibility that the database will not restart after a shutdown due to corruption in system tablespace.
Database is in noarchivelog mode. So online backups are not possible and there aren't any full backups either.
I am thinking of below,
1. Run dbms_repair with fix_block_corruption. - Still database startup might fail?
2. Shutdown the database and take offline full backup with RMAN MAXCorrupt option.
Appreciate your suggestions and advises.
Thanks
Stefan

Thanks Sybrand,
Agree with your first two suggestions .
Also scheduled a expdp job tonight. (Only backup like thing they had was a expdp cron, but until today all the large tables were failing due to small undo_retention).
Yes. Flashback is not used. So hopefully it will not affect the a database restart i guess?
Related to dbms_repair, I was referring to - http://askdba.org/weblog/2010/08/physical-corruption-ora-1578-part-3/.
Where DBMS_REPAIR.FIX_CORRUPT_BLOCKS and DBMS_REPAIR.SKIP_CORRUPT_BLOCKS used.
Which i think will not use any redo.
Thanks
Stefan

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             3    3244691        126         1790569609 LOGICAL
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             3    3244947        126         1790569627 LOGICAL
             3    3245075        126         1790569637 LOGICAL
             3    3245203        126         1790569646 LOGICAL
             3    3245331        126         1790569655 LOGICAL
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             3    3245587        126         1790569673 LOGICAL
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             3    3246099        126         1790569710 LOGICAL
             3    3246227        126         1790569719 LOGICAL
             3    3246355        126         1790569728 LOGICAL
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