SYSTEM tablespace rollback segment
Hi, i had taken a tablespace offline. so the active transactions data will go to SYSTEM rollback segment.
SYSTEM tablespace will use this rollback segments for transactions instead of undo. am i right?
now i dropped the tablespace. so how much time the data which is there in system rollback segments exists? will that data will be overrided because of other transactions on system tablespace?(think that i don't require that tablespace so i dropped it)
thanks in advance
please anybody post the answer
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TABLESPACE_NAME STATUS
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SYSAUX ONLINE
TEMP ONLINE
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LARGEINDEXES ONLINE
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XXSMALLTABS ONLINE
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UNDO_02 ONLINE
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oup by tablespace_name;
TABLESPACE_NAME FREE
LARGEDATA 18.3105469
SMALLDATA 10.46875
SYSAUX 106.5625
UNDO_02 67.125
XXSMALLTABS 13.0078125
CONVTABLES 170.039063
MEDIUMDATA 22
USERS 37.265625
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FILE# STATUS
1 SYSTEM
2 ONLINE
3 ONLINE
4 ONLINE
5 ONLINE
6 ONLINE
7 ONLINE
8 ONLINE
9 ONLINE
10 ONLINE
11 ONLINE
FILE# STATUS
12 ONLINE
13 ONLINE
14 ONLINE
15 ONLINE
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2 from dba_rollback_segs;
SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
SYSTEM SYSTEM 102400
ONLINE
_SYSSMU1$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU2$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
_SYSSMU3$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU4$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU5$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
_SYSSMU6$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU7$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU8$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
_SYSSMU9$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU10$ UNDO 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU11$ UNDO_02 131072
OFFLINE
SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
_SYSSMU12$ UNDO_02 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU13$ UNDO_02 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU14$ UNDO_02 131072
OFFLINE
SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
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OFFLINE
_SYSSMU16$ UNDO_02 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU17$ UNDO_02 131072
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SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
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OFFLINE
_SYSSMU19$ UNDO_02 131072
OFFLINE
_SYSSMU20$ UNDO_02 131072
OFFLINE
SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
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I tried this but didn't work for me.
SQL> alter rollback segment _SYSSMU1$ online;
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ERROR at line 1:
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ERROR at line 1:
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alter rollback segment _SYSSMU21$ online
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ERROR at line 1:
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STATUS
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ONLINE
SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
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STATUS
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STATUS
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SEGMENT_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME INITIAL_EXTENT
STATUS
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Error:cannot use system rollback segment for non-system tablespace
Hi,
I have created a oracle database 10.2.0 on fedora 9 system. I have created a user and assigned the default tablespace SATYA and given the permissions. But when I create a table in the user I am getting the following error.
Can anyone help me in rectifying this error.
ORA-01552: cannot use system rollback segment for non-system tablespace 'SATYA'
thankyou
satyaUndo management is either AUTO or Manual, no local
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14231/undo.htm#sthref1469
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ORA-01552: cannot use system rollback segment for non-system tablespace
i try to create a table in new schema test1 and got the following error. please help.
SQL> create table employer1 as select * from a.employer;
create table employer1 as select * from a.employer
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01552: cannot use system rollback segment for non-system tablespace 'TEST1'Hi,
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Regards
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SQL> select distinct tablespace_name, status from dba_rollback_segs
2 ;
TABLESPACE_NAME STATUS
SYSTEM ONLINE
UNDO OFFLINE
UNDO ONLINE -
I ported a database over to a new server.
It seems there may be transactions pending...which I don't care about.
I can log as SYS and run queries, but I cannot run DML or DDL statements.
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I am running in Automatic Undo mode.
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I don't think I can alter or create a new SYSTEM rollback segment.There is no error message.
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Thread 1 opened at log sequence 14700
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Rollback segments using UNDO Tablespace?
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So instead, I used the Undo tablespace UNDOTBS to hold the rollback segment. It worked.
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Bangalore. -
Hi ,
Just a wonder....!!!!
Why Oracle10g uses System Rollback Segment....and not System undo tablespace... since rollback segment as a method to rollback transactions has been depreciated.....?????
Thanks.....
SimSystem Rollback Segment is reserved for Oracle internal operation.
I believe it is used only by SYS and programs invoked using SYS authorization manipulating dictionary tables. In which case the complexity has been understood and managed over several generations of Oracle.
I suspect the system (manual) roillback segment will be very useful when creating a new database, which includes creating whole bunches of tables and views (updating whole bunches of internal tables), at which time no undo segment (or background process for automating that management?) exists.
Please point to the document or link that says rollback segments are deprecated.
Even now, manual rollback segments may be of benefit to specific programs and environments that run batch jobs managed by DBA whoy has studied them for a long time under specific circumstances.
But, just like the various SGA pools should be evaluated and potentially resized when workload changes, the rollback segment configuration needs to be evaluated and potentially resized when workload changes. Few DBAs have the knowledge or skill or time to do so - the automatic adjustments may be the best generic compromise. -
Cannot drop old undo tablespace. Cause: active rollback segment
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os: rhel as version 5 64 bits.
This is a testing database. And my database is online and open. But i can free the external usb disk that contains my ols undotbs.
I want to drop old undo tablespace but this is not possible.
1.- In order to open my database i had my datafile( '/mnt/hdext/back_plelds/undotbs02.dbf') offline drop, and then i can to open my database.
2.- When i try to delete my old undo tablespace im getting this error:
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3.- My default undo_tablespace is another that i was created before step 1.
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SQL>
This /mnt/hdext is an external USB disk and i have all permissions. I exported tables without any problem and i can read all files.
i search un metalink again ora codes (ORA-00376 ORA-01110) and the doc id: 427801.1 shows in the solution:
Drop the old undo tablespace instead of making it offline.
but when i try to drop the tablespace it shows the error describe in the step 2.
Facts:
- my tablespace UNDOTBS1 is ONLINE. I put in offline and this is not the solution.
- This is the status of my rollback segments:
SQL> select segment_name, status from dba_rollback_segs where
2 tablespace_name='UNDOTBS1';
SEGMENT_NAME STATUS
_SYSSMU1$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU2$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU3$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU4$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU5$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU6$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU7$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU8$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU9$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU10$ NEEDS RECOVERY
_SYSSMU11$ OFFLINE
SEGMENT_NAME STATUS
_SYSSMU12$ OFFLINE
12 rows selected.
SQL>
- I have the note (Unable to drop und tablespace In this article describe the problem but this is not the same. The difference is that i cannot drop the rollback segment that describe in step 2.
SQL> drop rollback segment "_SYSSMU1$";
drop rollback segment "_SYSSMU1$"
ERROR at line 1:
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in metalink the doc id: 173696.1 shows the solution:
Action: Check the undo segment name and reissue statement if necessary.
i cannot drop the rollback_segment
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SYSTEM Tablespace Segment Management
When creating a new database (11.1.0.7) on AIX 5.3, what are the benefits of creating a SYSTEM tablespace with MANUAL segment management? This question may not be limited to 11g databases, but I was curious if the SYSTEM tablespace could be set to AUTO segement management and what drawbacks I might see in doing so?
Most of the databases I help manage have been established years ago and most, if not all, are set to MANUAL.
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INITIAL_EXTENT : 65536
NEXT_EXTENT :
MIN_EXTENTS : 1
MAX_EXTENTS : 2147483645
MAX_SIZE : 2147483645
PCT_INCREASE :
MIN_EXTLEN : 65536
STATUS : ONLINE
CONTENTS : PERMANENT
LOGGING : LOGGING
FORCE_LOGGING : NO
EXTENT_MANAGEMENT : LOCAL
ALLOCATION_TYPE : SYSTEM
PLUGGED_IN : NO
SEGMENT_SPACE_MANAGEMENT : MANUAL
DEF_TAB_COMPRESSION : DISABLED
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BIGFILE : NO
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NEXT_EXTENT :
MIN_EXTENTS : 1
MAX_EXTENTS : 2147483645
MAX_SIZE : 2147483645
PCT_INCREASE :
MIN_EXTLEN : 65536
STATUS : ONLINE
CONTENTS : PERMANENT
LOGGING : LOGGING
FORCE_LOGGING : NO
EXTENT_MANAGEMENT : LOCAL
ALLOCATION_TYPE : SYSTEM
PLUGGED_IN : NO
SEGMENT_SPACE_MANAGEMENT : AUTO
DEF_TAB_COMPRESSION : DISABLED
RETENTION : NOT APPLY
BIGFILE : NO
PREDICATE_EVALUATION : HOST
ENCRYPTED : NO
COMPRESS_FOR :
----------------- -
Rollback segment in locally manage tablespace
Is it possible to create rollback segment in
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kuljeet pal singhSrini,
Both the 10gR2 and 11gR2 versions of the database are using automatic undo management.
Connected to:
Oracle Database 10g Enterprise Edition Release 10.2.0.2.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP and Data Mining options
SQL> show parameter undo
NAME TYPE VALUE
_undo_autotune boolean TRUE
undo_management string AUTO
undo_retention integer 14400
undo_tablespace string UNDOTBS1
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Connected to:
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.3.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP, Data Mining and Real Application Testing options
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Difference Between Rollback Segments and UNDO Tablespace
Hi guys,
Can you tell difference between Rollabck segments and UNDO Tablespaces.
I think that rollback Segemnts and UNDO tablespaces are similar both are used for storing before imags of data, which is going to be modified.
but my question still both the rollback abck segments and UNDO tablespaces exists.
why and what is the reason of both existing and at what time, we can use..them at which scenarios's
Regards,
Pavan Kumar NUndo segments in undo tablespaces, introduced in 9i, are the successor of rollback segments.
They are automatically managed by Oracle.
Rollback segments exist for reasons of backwards compatibility.
That said, you should switch to undo segments and stop using rollback segments.
Other than that: could you please avoid rehearsing the complete documentation in this forum?
Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA -
I had 7 system rolback segment in my database. I know about the one but i don't know how the other 6 are created.
Can I take the other 6 system rollback segment offline and drop?
Did they hurst the database ?<<I have multiple system Rollback segment in my database. I want to keep one system rollback segment.>>
why do you want to offline remainning rollback segment.
if u offline rollback segments then it will effect the performance.
i think you should read first rollback segment concept guide.
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96521/undo.htm#9114
Thanks and Regards
Kuljeet pal singh
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