SystemAcknowledgements & Application Acknowledgements

Hi Experts
How to get Applciation acknowledgements in BPM,
I tried this by selecting ApplicationAcknowledgement in SEND Step properties. But system was throwing error.
But when I select TransportAcknowledgement (Represented as SystemAcknowledgement in SXMB_MONI) in SEND Step, It sender service is able to get the response.
How to achieve both in normal scenarios without using BPM. For example : IDOC 2 File (Possible/Not Possible)
Thanks & Regards
Praveen K
Edited by: Praveen Kurni on Mar 30, 2009 1:30 PM

In case of IDOC to File transport ack is possible (sys) and application ack is not possible
Transport Ack : indicates whether the data has been trasnsported to target system or not
Application Ack : Indicates that the message transferred is processed successfully or not (this can
be done for idoc)
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2006/06/22/xi-playing-with-the-file-adapters-acknowledgments
Rajesh

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SystemAckRequested="false"
SystemErrorAckRequested="true"
ApplicationAckRequested="true"
ApplicationErrorAckRequested="true"
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If you havent suppressed acknowledgments for IDocs WP_PLU in IDX_NOALE in XI then you will get:
SystemErrorAck when message has not reached the FILE system
AckNotSupported for all others acknowledgement types
QQ) Will this IDOC Ack applicable for this scenario???
Rather not, since FILE adapter does not support any other acknowledgements then system and IDoc adapter does not request other acknowledgements then application + SystemErrorAckRequested.
In sender system your IDoc will be always in status 39 (instead of 03), when acknowledgement is turned on.
This is because:
For SystemErrorAck the corresponding ALEAUD status is 56
For AckNotSupported the corresponding ALEAUD status is 50
Both inbound 56 and 50 statuses end up in 39 for your outbound IDoc in sender system.
Q1) Will this ALEAUD Idoc contains any Message from File System????
In both cases, it will result in status 39 - IDoc is in the target system. So it does not matter.
Q2) Basically what Information will contain this IDOC Ack.
Idoc number from sender system and status 56 or 50 depends on acknowledgement type.
Q3) Do we receive any Info from the Target File System , if we implement this Ack concept??
Nothing useful.
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Supposed you have turned on acks on XI (tcode: se38, IDX_NOALE) for your sender port/client.
1)
You send and IDoc and it has been delivered successfully to FILE system.
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XI will send ALEAUD IDoc to R/3 system: status "50 - IDoc is added"
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2)
You send and IDoc and it has not been delivered successfully to FILE system. e.g. FILE server is down.
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XI will send ALEAUD IDoc to R/3 system: status "56 - IDoc with errors is added"
The IDoc status in sender will be "39 - IDoc is in receiving system (ALE service)".
So status 39 means only that IDoc reached XI, but you don't know whether it was delivered to FILE system or not.
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No, "Sender adapters of the Adapter Engine do not request any acknowledgements."
Q3) So the same case( Which we disscused for IDOCFile) is Applicable for FileIDOC also????
No.
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No.
Q4) If Yes to Q3 means,Where this System Error Ack will be seen in File System side???
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Not relevant.
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Hi Chritian,
you can set Integration Engine parameter RUNTIME/ACK_SYSTEM_ERROR=1 to send system acknowledgement. That can of course only control ABAP stack errors, not Java Engine of Adapter Engine of JDBC adapter. Your IDoc adapter will send ALEAUD anyway.
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I am using XI 3.0 and I need to find a way to create an application acknowledgment from an FTP adapter.
Here is what I need to happen:
When a PO is created in R/3 we need to send a transportation order request (TOR) to a trucking companying offsite. They will receive an XML file via FTP. Then they will process the TOR in their system and create an application acknowledgment to inform us of a success or failure. The acknowledgment will be in their "out" folder and our XI system will pull from the "out" folder every 10 minutes. When we receive the acknowledgment we need to send an alert if the acknowledgment informs us of an error or if the acknowledgment tied to a TOR does not arrive within an hour.
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Now looking at your requirement to create a Z table in XI.
You can create a Z table. but challenge i see in implementing this is your soruce send message and wait for a response and file need to be picked in the timeout configured. Else the message itself will fail.
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Hello Jan,
Below my answers..
> Hi Roberto,
>
> Do I understand well that the sending application
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>
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>
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