Table / Module Cross Reference

Good day
Sorry if this question is answered already but I couldn't find the answer in any forum.
I have a list of a few thousand table names and I have to identify which module (SD, FI, CO, MM, etc.) each table belongs to. I know some tables are cross- module but I think each table is linked to one Primary module.
1) Is there a Table / Module cross reference anywhere in SAP ?
2) Is there a function module I can use ?
3) Does anybody know the links to work backwards from having a table name to get to the appropriate module.
Thank you for your help.
Gerrie

Hi
There is no such hardcore rule to distingush between the tables to different modules
but some tips are:
1. most of the tables starting with V* belongs to SD
like vbak,vbap,vbrk,vbrp,vbkd,vbep etc
2. Most of the tables starting with E* belongs to MM purchasing
like ekko,ekpo,eket,eban etc
3.Tables atrting with KN* belong s to Customer master
4.Tables starting with M* belongs to Material Master
5. Tables starting with LF * belongs to Vendor
6.Tables starting with B* belongs to FI module like
bkpf,bseg,bsis,bsas,bsid,bsad,bsik,bsak,bset etc
7.Tables starting with USR* belong to user data
8.Tables starting with TSP* belong to Spool data
9.Tables starting with P* belongs to PP module
plko,plpo
10. Tables starting with Q* belongs to Quality managment
11,
Tables like KONV,KONP are cross client and relates to pricing
Regards
Anji

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[/EDIT]
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Ken Benson

Kenneth Benson wrote:
I'm trying to figure out a way to automatically generate page numbers for a list of courses at the back of a course catalog. The listing is not arranged alphabetically or in the order the courses appear in the catalog, and (right now) the listing is a table. Because of this, I don't think a TOC or Index would work.
Cross references seem to work, but they're just as much work as turning pages, finding each entry, and typing it into the list. What I'd really like is to be able to use cross-references to text anchors, but have the anchors inserted in Word, before it goes into Indesign. Many of the courses repeat from one catalog to the next. The editor who creates the Word file does so by pasting each course with its description into one big Word file. If the text anchor were in each course to begin with, it would end up in Indesign and I would only have to reference it to generate a page number.
It seems that Word's Bookmarks come into Indesign as text anchors, but not with their original names. The first bookmark, regardless of its name in Word, comes in named "Anchor". The next one comes in named "Anchor 5" or something like that. I want them to come in with course numbers or some other unique identifier. "Anchor 5" doesn't really tell me anything.
Any ideas?
Ken Benson
Hi, Ken:
IIRC, Word's cross-references are preserved in InDesign. Have you tried it?
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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