Tablespace offline / online.

Hi All,
Oracle 9.2 - aix 5.
I have taken example tablespace offline earlier using TOAD and then deleted the example datafile. It was successful activity. but it gives error as shown below in alert log file when db restarts.
ALTER TABLESPACE EXAMPLE OFFLINE
Mon Nov 2 15:04:31 2009
Errors in file /oracle/ora92/920/admin/guru/bdump/guru_dbw0_516208.trc:
ORA-01157: cannot identify/lock data file 4 - see DBWR trace file
ORA-01110: data file 4: '/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/guru/example01.dbf'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
IBM AIX RISC System/6000 Error: 13: Permission denied
SQL> select status from dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name='EXAMPLE';
STATUS
ONLINE
SQL> ALTER TABLESPACE EXAMPLE OFFLINE;
ALTER TABLESPACE EXAMPLE OFFLINE
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01191: file 4 is already offline - cannot do a normal offline
ORA-01110: data file 4: '/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/guru/example01.dbf'
though tablespace is offline oracle tries to write something to file. and everytime it gives error in alert file. i dont understand how oracle shows dual status of same tablespace at the same time...????
Amit.

Hallo,
offlining a tablespace makes the tablespace unvailable to users but leaves ORACLE update the datafiles' header which belongs to the tablespace with important synchronization information. Plus during startup ORACLE checks if control file SCN matches offlined tablespace datafiles' headers.
That's why alert logs that messages..
Bye

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4. Mount the database and take the tablespace corresponding to Indx01.dbf data file offline.There could be a misunderstanding about the command to be used. ALTER TABLESPACE command needs an open DB to work, but you can use
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Alter tablespace sa online;

Dear Everyone,
SQL> alter tablespace sa online;
alter tablespace sa online
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01113: file 6 needs media recovery
ORA-01110: data file 6: '/u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/db_1/dbs/tbs_data.dat'
Can anyone tell me what is the problem here
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ORA-00279: change 1859444 generated at 06/17/2013 02:57:17 needed for thread 1
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/flash_recovery/flash_recovery_area/SA/archivelog/2013_07_01/o1_mf_1_35_%u_.arc
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AUTO
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Gajananh999 wrote:
Dear Everyone,
SQL> alter tablespace sa online;
alter tablespace sa online
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01113: file 6 needs media recovery
ORA-01110: data file 6: '/u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/db_1/dbs/tbs_data.dat'
Can anyone tell me what is the problem here
SQL> recover datafile '/u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/db_1/dbs/tbs_data.dat';
ORA-00279: change 1859444 generated at 06/17/2013 02:57:17 needed for thread 1
ORA-00289: suggestion :
/flash_recovery/flash_recovery_area/SA/archivelog/2013_07_01/o1_mf_1_35_%u_.arc
ORA-00280: change 1859444 for thread 1 is in sequence #35
Specify log: {<RET>=suggested | filename | AUTO | CANCEL}
AUTO
ORA-00308: cannot open archived log
'/flash_recovery/flash_recovery_area/SA/archivelog/2013_07_01/o1_mf_1_35_%u_.arc
ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status
Linux-x86_64 Error: 2: No such file or directory
Additional information: 3
ORA-00308: cannot open archived log
'/flash_recovery/flash_recovery_area/SA/archivelog/2013_07_01/o1_mf_1_35_%u_.arc'
ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status
Linux-x86_64 Error: 2: No such file or directory
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Thanks
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What did you do with /flash_recovery/flash_recovery_area/SA/archivelog/2013_07_01/o1_mf_1_35_%u_.arc that the recovery could not find it?
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Data files are offline / tablespace offline

I am confused on the concept of data file offline.
What happened when you take data file offline?
Is data file offline because of disk damage? we see the error that data file is haning a problem, we have manually to take data file offline? how?
Why is tablespace offline but data file is still online?
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S.

ski123 wrote:
I am confused on the concept of data file offline.
What happened when you take data file offline?The offline datafile means simply that the file is not available anymore for the access. All the objects for the offline file become inaccessible for the users to access.
Is data file offline because of disk damage? we see the error that data file is haning a problem, we have manually to take data file offline? how?Yes it can happen that the data file goes offline because of any kind of damage either over the disk, or also with the file itself. For example, there may be a chance that the file is not available anymore , may be because someone has deletedthe file. So most of the times, Oracle would offline the file by itself. In any case, if the file doesn't go offline by itself than you need to take it offline yourself as the recovery for the file can't happen if its online. You would get the error messages that oracle can't acquire the exclusive access over the file.
Why is tablespace offline but data file is still online?Not sure that I did see this ever myself. Tablespace is nothing but the container for the datafile so if there is a file of it which is offline and that's the only file in the tablespace, the tablespace can't stay as online. Show us an output for the same.
The links given by Anantha are must for you to read the cocept of offlining a tablespace. Make sure you read them for sure.
HTH
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2 Undo Tablespace both ONLINE, How to drop previous undo tbs

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Tablespace offline

Hi,
i have a database 11.1.0.6 running in windows 2003 server.i took a tablespace offline and changed the location of the datafile of that tablespace. When i tried to make the tablespace online it asked for media recovery and i am not able to make the tablespace online. why it happened??? i want to stimulate the same issue in my test database . So i performed the following steps
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And i am able to make the tablespace online without any problem. How ??
Regards,
007
Edited by: 007 on Sep 24, 2011 5:22 AM

Probably in the your case 1, you took one datafile offline , in that case when you want to make it online again, a recovery is necessary because Oracle does not checkpoint a data file when it is taken offline.
When you take the whole tablespace offline normal (not immediate), the tablespace is checkpointed so you bring it online , no recovery is required.
[oracle@wissem ~]$ rlsqlplus
SQL*Plus: Release 11.2.0.1.0 Production on Sat Sep 24 16:21:58 2011
Copyright (c) 1982, 2009, Oracle. All rights reserved.
Enter user-name: sys as sysdba
Enter password:
Connected to:
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.1.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP, Data Mining and Real Application Testing options
SQL> select FILE_NAME from DBA_DATA_FILES;
FILE_NAME
/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_users_77jqszlz_.dbf
/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_undotbs1_77jqszk4_.dbf
/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_sysaux_77jqszhh_.dbf
/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_system_77jqsz9y_.dbf
SQL>
SQL> alter database datafile '/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_users_77jqszlz_.dbf' offline;
Database altered.
SQL> alter system checkpoint;
System altered.
SQL> alter system checkpoint;
System altered.
SQL> alter database datafile '/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_users_77jqszlz_.dbf' online;
alter database datafile '/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_users_77jqszlz_.dbf' online
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01113: file 4 needs media recovery
ORA-01110: data file 4:
'/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_users_77jqszlz_.dbf'
SQL> recover datafile 4;
Media recovery complete.
SQL> alter database datafile '/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_users_77jqszlz_.dbf' online;
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SQL> alter tablespace USERS OFFLINE IMMEDIATE;
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System altered.
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alter tablespace USERS ONLINE
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01113: file 4 needs media recovery
ORA-01110: data file 4:
'/home/oracle/app/oracle/oradata/WISS/datafile/o1_mf_users_77jqszlz_.dbf'
SQL> recover tablespace USERS;
Media recovery complete.
SQL> alter tablespace USERS ONLINE;
Tablespace altered.
SQL> alter tablespace USERS OFFLINE;
Tablespace altered.
SQL> alter system checkpoint;
System altered.
SQL> alter system checkpoint;
System altered.
SQL> alter tablespace USERS ONLINE;
Tablespace altered.
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Is it possible to make an OSB Proxy service offline/online based on BS

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How to turn a tablespace offline when...

Dear All,
I need assistance;
Which SQL statement can I use to open an oracle 8i database when the 'users' tablespace is in offline mode.

First you say that users is offline. Then you say that that the system tablespace
is not available. There is a VERY BIG difference between the two.
Also, in Oracle "tablespace offline" means that a tablespace has been taken offline
-- the Oracle command is ALTER TABLESPACE OFFLINE.
But you now assert that the datafile has been "lost" {*whatever* that is supposed to
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Offline & online backups????

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Hi Ravi,
Joydeep has described it very well.
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Sysaux tablespace offline ?

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Hello;
If the SYSAUX tablespace becomes unavailable, core database functionality will remain. So Yes you can do it.
Source - Database Administrator's Guide "Managing the SYSAUX Tablespace"
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B28359_01/server.111/b28310/tspaces010.htm
OR
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e25494/tspaces010.htm#i1011659
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Hi,
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数据文件1个月前前被offline 后,忘了online
最近才发现这个问题,rman 的的备份策略是保存一周,.现在数据文件是recover 状态
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SYSTEM
ONLINE
ONLINE
ONLINE
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RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
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RMAN-06025: no backup of log thread 1 seq 96 lowscn 10552545 found to restore
RMAN-06025: no backup of log thread 1 seq 95 lowscn 10550471 found to restore
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--一周前的全备和增量备份，归档日志已经被删除
[oracle@localhost ~]$
[oracle@localhost ~]$
[oracle@localhost ~]$
[oracle@localhost ~]$ sqlplus / as sysdba
SQL*Plus: Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Production on Sun Oct 14 15:22:51 2012
Copyright (c) 1982, 2005, Oracle. All rights reserved.
Connected to:
Oracle Database 10g Enterprise Edition Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP and Data Mining options
SQL> shutdown immediate
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.
SQL> startup mount
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Fixed Size 1219136 bytes
Variable Size 335545792 bytes
Database Buffers 889192448 bytes
Redo Buffers 15556608 bytes
Database mounted.
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Database altered.
数据库能正常启动
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STATUS
SYSTEM
ONLINE
ONLINE
ONLINE
ONLINE
RECOVER
6 rows selected.
状态还是recover 状态
SQL> alter database datafile 6 online;
alter database datafile 6 online
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01113: file 6 needs media recovery
ORA-01110: data file 6: '/u01/app/oracle/oradata/orcl/test.dbf'
如何使该数据文件online ?
以上环境是我的模拟的有一个生产库和该情况基本一样

谢谢部分归档日志的备份已经被删除(因为备份策略不可能保存所有的归档日志)
只有选择第二种了.
数据文件意外offline 或变成recover状态,由于对系统没有影响(如我遇到SYSAUX表空间),一直没有发现,能到发现了,已经是很长时间了,归档日志已经不全了(备份策略没有保存那么长时间)
这类问题有什么好的办法可以避免吗？

EOS plugin and offline/online workflow

Hi all.
Recently shot some footage on a Canon 5d and downloaded the plugin so that I can use Log and transfer to get the footage in.
I was hoping to do an offline first using a proxy codec but the plug-in only does full res.
This is my first foray into the card world. Any suggestions about how I can use the log and transfer window but doing an offline first.
My only thinking is to import the files to ProRes using the log and transfer window then media managing those files to make proxy copies, editing with those and then re linking the sequence to the original camera rushes or the Prores copies
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First off, unless your system is very dated, there's no reason to go through the offline thing. ProRes reduces the overhead sufficiently to make HD cut pretty much like SD.
That said, it is possible to create an offline/online scenario by simply doing the log and capture normally and then "clone" the resultant clips using Compressor to whatever format pleases you for the offline work. As long as you maintain identical filenames in both source folders, you can cut the offline in a different project and then simply re-link to the full-rez clips to conform.
Good luck!

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i am not sure if this is the right forum or even an apple app question (someone direct me to a good sourse if not please) but, I am needing to do offline edit from HDV source and some HDCam source.
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I tried to adjust the HD codec and reduce quality by 70%...couldnt test cause HDSDI on K3 isn't seeing the sig from HDCam VTR. But the 320x240 would work i just dont want to resize the images/clips.
Anyway, any ideas or help to get me going to capture low rez maintaining 16:9 (with reduced qual through pixels and not frame sizes)for a later uprez. Ive done theis beofre on an hd show about 3 yeasrs agao once, I cannot remember though and it was on FCP too in an offline/online workflow. I think we did it using sd capture from sd source, hmmm with the deck set at anamorphic/squeezed output to ana capture and then it was normal in sequence.
but in this case i am still dealing with small frame sizes 320x240...HELP!

ok, i'll look at the disc's. i think we just downloaded the full codec pack from aja's site..i do know when i check the "show all" box a boat load of codecs show, i believe i've seen one for hd...but any i seen reduced the frame size to something realy small.
i'll double check this new card kona3 and see what it's codec pack is.
thanks and i'll post my findings. geez, this should be simple...go from hdsdi to a low rez codec but keeping the full frame size...that's it done. and then uprez later using dvcproHD (well that's what i am using to save some space and it's a great codec.) but that's how easy it should be...works that way in sd too. i think i need to go in sd anamorphic and set the vtr's output to squeezed...i dunno i'll hopefully find help or figure it out one way or another.
thanks again, keep me posted with ideas..THANKS@!!!!!!

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