Tagging character styles and paragraph styles in inDesign

I'm working on a complex book in which everything on the pages is styled.
I've been asked to tag the vocabulary terms in the text, so that the correct page number shows up in the index.
I've been asked to tag the folios as well, for the table of contents.
The folios are a paragraph style.
The vocabulary terms are styled with a character style.
How do I do this?
Any help much appreciated.

InDesign's built-in Table of Contents function picks up text based on paragraph styles. I'm not sure you really men, though, that you want to pick up the folios, if you are using the term as I understand it, to mean the page numbers. You really want to pick up the various headings used to identify the topics or titles. ID will supply the page numbers.
As for the indexing, there may be a script that can find text with a particular character style assigned and add it to an index (you should ask over in the scripting forum: InDesign Scripting) but you should also read the Help on Indexes and learn more about how they operate.

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Same thing happening here.
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Use multiple strokes aroudn type
Set the corner options to round
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Michael Murphy is the InDesign style-meister. He wrote "Adobe InDesign Styles" for Adobe Press, and did a great Lynda.com title on InDesign styling. Here's what he says in the book:
"As mentioned at the beginning of this chapter, with all the power of table and cell styles, it is important to understand not only how they work and what they can do for you, but also to understand their limitations.
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Newbie: 7210 style and 9914A style controller ??

I'm new to GPIB, and am considering implementing Labview or HP VEE.
I'm in the stages of identifying a controller that supports both
packages. I've seen some references to 7210 style and 9914A style
cards. Is there a significant difference, or is this transparent to my
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equipment I am interfacing with?
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Before you buy.

[email protected] wrote:
> I'm new to GPIB, and am considering implementing Labview or HP VEE.
> I'm in the stages of identifying a controller that supports both
> packages. I've seen some references to 7210 style and 9914A style
> cards.
Unless you are designing equipment that uses these ICs there is no need
to worry about it.
FYI the 9914A (from TI) is no longer available
The 7210 (from NEC) is only marginally superior.
National Instruments makes replacements that are supersets of these old
ones.
They also make one that is much better than either.
> Is there a significant difference, or is this transparent to my
> application? Is it dependant on the software application, or the
> equipment I am interfacing with?
It makes no difference
>
>
> Also, where's
a good place to get GPIB cables? Controller (preferably
> PCI)?
>
Since I like NI (National Instruments) I sould say you can buy everything
you need from them.
I will say that their cables are a little less rugged than those available
from HP
(Hewlett-Packard or is it Agilent now ??).
Some GPIB caveats:
No more than 15 devices can be connected to the same controller.
At least half of these must be powered up.
Maximum cable length is 15m (you can usually get more at lower speeds).
No more than 2-3 m between each device.
None of these are hard and fast rules but if you follow them there should be
no problems.
Shameless plug GO WITH LABVIEW !!
Kevin Kent

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Well I tested it myself before posting. The Glyph from the Glyphs panel is using a different style set than that in ther paragraph style.
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I am running into a very frustrating issue where I cannot replace a paragraph style. The issue is that we used to use some adobe type fonts and want to move to the true type equivalent so that we don't have problems working on files between mac and pc. The problem occurs on both mac and pc on a variety of hardware (both c86 and ppc macs for example). When we open the document it identifies that the font cannot be found (example Palatino T1). When we click find font and select the regular ttf Palatino replacement and click Change All Indesign just vanishes and leaves a crash message with a ton of garbage and a read only memory error. The same happens if we change the font on some text and right click on aragraph style and click "redefine style" - there is a sudden crash.
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luca.depetrillo wrote:
Hi,
I need some help to figure out what impact can be, on a product, the migration of query left join syntax from the Oracle8 one to the Oracle10g:
we have a product that uses Hibernate configured to use the Oracle8 dialect to perform queries which uses the (+) sintax to perform outer join query, and we encountered a bug in that dialect that is forcing us to move on the Oracle10g dialect which uses the ANSI 92 style to perform outer join queries.
Someone know if there are differences/bugs/incompatibilities for outer join query written using the ANSI 92 style instead the Oracle8 style like DB functions (like NVL(), DECODE(), and so on) that work in a different way using a style instead the other?
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Luca.In earlier versions of 10g (i.e. 10.1.?.?) there was a few bugs in the ANSI syntax joins on SQL, but they seemed to have sorted most of those out for 10.2.?.? onwards.
Essentially there will be no real adverse effects in using ANSI syntax, and it shouldn't stop your other functions working.
ANSI syntax also gives you the advantage that you can outer join to more than one table which you can't do in Oracle syntax outer joins.
Edited by: BluShadow on Nov 18, 2008 2:06 PM
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We have existing many procedures in RH5X that we have created
over the past two years. Our company has designed a new .css that
contains new styles. Is there anyway to easily and quickly apply
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Look at it this way. Your old style sheet had two styles
called black and white and the new one has red and green. How would
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