TDS India: 194C Contractors/Subcontractors
HI!
As per Indian taxes, section 194C TDS has to be deduct 1% on other than company and 2% on company. But it has some threshold limits as if a single contract exceeds Rs.30000/- or all contracts exceeds Rs.75000/- in a year, you have to deduct TDS from that particular vendor. Once TDS attracts in one of the both conditions TDS deduction has to continue on each bill for that year. Inaddition to that, at the time of TDS attract in one of the both conditions, TDS has to calculate for all previous contracts which is below threshold limit at that time in addtion to the present contract base amount which is exceed threshold limit.
Pls....give me step by step process of configuration by satisfying above all conditions for a single vendor.
Dear Srinivasrao,
Both threshold limit is not possible in sap.
For yearly threshold limit you can use the Accumulation Type as Yearly in Define Withholding tax type for invoice posting
And maintain the minimum amount as 75000 in maintain min amount config.
Now when ever the total invoice value is less than 75000 tds will not be deducted once it cross the limit tds will be deduct on the whole invoice value till date posted.
For single invoice thing sorry i don't have any idea but lets see if any one can guide us
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TDS INDIA - error "business place could not be determined"
Hi all Indian SAP Gurus!
I am from Sweden and trying to configure Indian TDS.
I have succeeded to create a vendor invoice in fb60, entering business place and section code and the posting looks all good so far.
I have created a business place called HO, a section code called SC01 and allocated them to my company code 2200.
But when I am trying to run transction J1INCHLN I get the following error message (8i707):
"Business place for document could not be determined".
I have read a lots of threads regarding this but I suppose I have misunderstood something.
When I look at the document in fb03 I can see the business place on the posting!
I don't know if I have understood all about the number ranges correctly.
Please confirm the following settings:
J_1IEWTNUMGR:
- 194C numgr 55
-194I numgr 56
194j numgr 57
J_1IEWTNUM
num group 55 - internal group 55
num group 56 - internal group 56
num group 57 - internal group 57
J_1IEWTNO - get error message "The maintenance dialog for J_1IEWTNO is incomplete or not defined". Instead this is maintained in transaction JI1NNUMBER where I allocated intervalls of number to number ranges:
55: 0055000000-0055999999
56: 0056000000-0056999999
57:0057000000-0057999999
J_1I_SECCODE: Section code (one section code)
V_SECCODE: HO (one business place)
SPRO => EWT=>Postngs=>India=> Withholding tax certificate customer vendor => Manintain groups and SAP Script forms:
2200 SC01 194C J_1IEWT_CERT 55
2200 SC01 194I J_1IEWT_CERT 56
2200 SC01 194J J_1IEWT_CERT 57
Notice that I have not entered any section type.
SPRO => EWT=>Postngs=>India=> Withholding tax certificate customer vendor => Assign number ranges to number groups:
num group 55 - internal group 55
num group 56 - internal group 56
num group 57 - internal group 57
SPRO => EWT=>Postngs=>India=> Withholding tax certificate customer vendor => Manintain number ranges:
55: 0055000000-0055999999
56: 0056000000-0056999999
57:0057000000-0057999999
I would very much appreciate if ypu could help me with this! I will give you a lot of points!
Thank you very much in advance!!!!
Best regards,
ÅSAHi!
I have now deactivated as you said:
-then reversed all invoices in fb60
-then activated
-posted a new invoice in fb60
But still I have the same error message....
More information: When I go to transaction j1inpp to update business place information in FI document.. When trying to see the alternatives of business place and sector code I see our business place but canät see any sector codes!! How come? I go to table V_seccode and there I see my sector code???? Strange!!!
I have now created a new section code and deleted the old one. And made same settings as before. I have also posted a vednor invoice. But still the same message...
Edited by: asafo364 on Apr 21, 2010 1:39 PM -
Dear SAP Gurus,
Please help me in configuring the following TDS limits . for other sections i have done the neeful
1. There has been threshold limit for deducting TDS under various head for the following section
· For Section 194C Rs. 30,000 for single payment & Rs. 75,000 for aggregate Payment during a financial year.
2 In case of PAN not available TDS rate is deducted at 20%
Thanking youall in advance.
Best Regards,
CA Satish PrabhuHi ,
For 194 C , there is no standard settings availabe . In case of Rs. 30000/- you can achieve that by using the formula function in the WHT tax code . In the calculation tab check box the W.tax form . in the view - SM30 V_T059Z.
enter the formula in the cluster SM34 - VC_T059FB .
So the system would not deduct the tax if the amount is less than 30000/- in each and every case , but it will not accumulate the final amount to 75000/- for that you will have to keep a manual control .
Secondly , for PAN related deduction kindly check the Note 1446746 - 20% tax rate is applicable if PAN is not available.
Revert back if still having issues .
Regards ,
Dewang T -
TDS Change in Billing document
Dear friends
My client has creadted few service order in last month that time 2% TDS.
Current month they have changed the TDS from 2% to 0%.
Client create biling document l for the last month sales order, billing take 2% TDS.
but my client want 0% TDS in bill
kindly give the solution for solve this issue.
Regards
Paul.SHi!
WHT codes means Witholding Tax codes.
These are defined by FI consultant & are assigned to customer/vendors in the respective master data.
for customers - it is maintained in the company code data under the witholding tax tab
for vendors - it is maintained under the witholding tax accounting tab
Example of few WHT Codes are as :
E1 Invoice-Sec 194A-Int other than Security
E2 Invoice-Sec 194C-Contractor
E3 Invoice-Sec 194C-Advertisement Contracto
E4 Invoice-Sec 194C-Sub Contractor
E5 Invoice-Sec 194H-Brokerage/ Comm
E6 Invoice-Sec 194I-Rent
E7 Invoice-Sec 194J-Proffesional Fees
E8 Invoice-Sec-195 Non Resident Payment
EA Payment-Sec 194A-Int other than Security
EB Payment-Sec 194C-Contractor
EC Payment-Sec 194C-Advertisement Contracto
ED Payment-Sec 194C-Sub Contractor
EE Payment-Sec 194H-Brokerage/ Comm
Bascially, Withholding tax is an amount withheld by the party making a payment to another (payee) and paid to the taxation authorities. The amount the payer deducts may vary, depending on the nature of the product or service being paid for. The payee is assessed on the gross amount, and the tax to be withheld (the withholding tax) is computed in that assessment. The purpose of withholding tax is to facilitate or accelerate collection, by collecting tax from payers rather than a much greater number of payees, and by collecting tax from payers within the jurisdiction rather than payees who may be outside the jurisdiction.
Regards
Tejpal Singh -
Hi,
We have implemented ECC 5.0 . Our company is in India . In India there is one statutory requirement regarding TDS. Tds Calculate as per section code and in that there is limit for deducting surcharge .
Example : - In India For Contractor limit is 20,000 Inr , If contractor invoices do not cross these limit then sap has to deduct only "Basic + E.cess"
But If contractor invoices cross these limit then system has to deduct surcharge on all invoices ( means before cross invoices)If I have to deduct surcharge on that invoice and onwards invoice then I can do this . also this process is manual.
system don't give any TDS Limit for duducting surcharge.
I cant deduct surchage on back invoices...
Regards,
Kaushal Shah
+91 9924756365Hi Kaushal
I think there is a misconception in this regard. The law actually states that if in a fiscal year, the total payments to a contractor does not exceed Rs.20,000/-, then NO TDS has to be deducted. and any payment together over and above Rs.20,000/- in one fiscal year attracts TDS.
Regarding surcharge, it is applicable only if the following is satisfied,
1. in case of individuals/HUF, applicable only if payment exceeds Rs.10,00,000/-
2. in case of Partnership firms / companies, surcharge applicable only if payment exceeds Rs.1,00,00,000.
Kindly make a not of this. Being a Chartered Accountant, this is my duty to clarify on the basic matters relating to statutes and their interpretation.
And in SAP, there is no such process by which u can automate this. it has to be manually done for each and every vendor. u cannot set the limits in the system at all.
Regards,
CA. Karthik Narayan N S
SAP-FICO Consultant -
HI,
When i am generating and printing TDS Certificates I am getting an error saying "Number Range generation failure". I am seeing the Number ranges created in the below path.
SAP Customizing Implementation Guide >> Financial Accounting>> Financial Accounting Global Settings >> Withholding Tax >> Extended Withholding Tax >>Postingsà India >> Remittance Challans >> Maintain Number Groups / Assign Number Ranges to Number Groups/ Maintain Number Ranges
PLease let me know if i am missing some where?
Thanks
RamakrishnaHI..
You can get the wht certificate information with the table "with_item"
As per the standard sap once you have taken the printout of wht then the system won't give any data with the transaction J1INCERT for generating the certificate.For that you have to run the t.code J1INREP
Try to post one more scenario in test environment and let me know if the certification numbering problem still exist
1. FB60: Vendor Invoice with section code
2.J1INCHLN :Remittance challan creation
3.J1INBANK:bank challan updation
4.J1INCERT:WHT Certificate print
Verify the fiscal years 2009 & 2010 has maintained the certificate number ranges are not.. with the differenct tds sections 194C, 194I, 192B etc
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How many new tax type and tax code are created for change in TDS
Hello Gurus.
we are using SAP since more than one year.
now tDS rate is change , so i would like to know How many new tax type and Tax Code is created in our system
and also like to know At what percentage i will crete that new tax code.
we have pair of tax type and tax code as shown in Example( for Interest) below
Tax type Tax code Name
I1 IC Sec 194A - Interest on deposits
I1 IO Sec 194A - Interest on deposits OT
I2 IC Sec 194A - Interest on deposits Surcharg
I3 IC Sec 194A - Interest on deposits EC& SHEe
I3 IO Sec 194A - Interest on deps EC& SHEe OT
I4 IC Sec 194A - Interest on deposits Pymt
I4 IO Sec 194A - Interest on deposits Pymt OT
I5 IC Sec 194A - Interest on dep Pymt Surcharg
I6 IC Sec 194A - Interest on dep Pymt EC& SHEe
so how namy additional reuire to create new tax type and code more.
i am waiting your reply.
Regard,
Riten patel
Edited by: riten patel on Oct 29, 2009 10:23 AM
Edited by: riten patel on Oct 29, 2009 10:23 AM
Edited by: riten patel on Oct 29, 2009 10:33 AMHello Hansachechani
we have followinng tax key
115O Dividend 115O(1)
192B Salary
194A Interest income other than securities
194C Payment to contractors
194H Commission
194I Rent
194J Prof/Technical services
195 Payment to foreign nationals
206C Tax Collected at Sources (Scrap)
ST Service Tax
and we have followig tax type
C4 Sec 194H Commission Payment
C5 Sec 194H Commission Pymt Surcharge
C6 Sec 194H Commission Pymt EC & SHE Cess
D4 Sec 115O(1) Dividend Payment
D5 Sec 115O(1) Dividend Pymt Surcharge
D6 Sec 115O(1) Dividend Pymt EC & SHE Cess
F4 Sec 195 Foreign Prof fees Payment
F5 Sec 195 Foreign Prof fees Pymt Surcharge
F6 Sec 195 Foreign Prof Fees Pymt E&HS Cess
G1 Service Tax on GTA
G2 Service Tax on GTA E Cess
G3 Service Tax on GTA S&HE Cess
I4 Sec 194A Int on Deposit Payment
I5 Sec 194A Int on Deposit Pymt Surcharge
I6 Sec 194A Int on Deposit Pymt EC & SHE Ce
L4 Sec 194C Contractors Payment
L5 Sec 194C Contractors Payment Surcharge
L6 Sec 194C Contractors Payment EC&S HE Ces
P4 Sec 194J Professional Payment
P5 Sec 194J Professional Pymt Surcharge
P6 Sec 194J Professional Pymt EC & SH E Ces
R4 Sec 194I Rent Payment
R5 Sec 194I Rent Payment Surcharge
R6 Sec 194I Rent Payment E Cess & SH E Cess
So Is it necessary to create new tax key and tax type?
wheather i create new tax code only?
I ma waiting your reply.
Regard,
Riten patel -
Dear All,
I have created 5 business places which I will have to assign it to the following section codes.
192B
SALARY
194A
INTEREST
194C
CONTRACTOR
194H
COMM/BRKRG
194I
RENT
194J
PROF TECH SERVICE
195
FOREIGN
206C
TCS
Now after assigning the first bus.place when I assign the second one, it gives me an error that the section code is already present. Now can I not assign multiple bus. place to a single section code ? Do I have to create all the section codes for each different bus. place ? I thought it was like 1:many relation types.
Also pls tell me where do I put the Tan number in bus place?
best regds
SubhaHi Subhadeep,
Please create 5 Section codes if you have 5 Business Places since 1:many relation type wont work here.
I assume you want to maintain TAN in Section Code. You can maintain it in the table J_1I_SECCO_CIT (Path : Financial Accounting Global Settings->Withholding Tax->Extended Withholding Tax->Reporting->Country-Specific Functions->India-> Certificates->Maintain Section Code, TAN, and CIT Address)
Hope it helps you in solving your issue. Please revert if you need any further assistance.
Thanks & Regards
Ramesh -
Portray Dependencies Withholding Tax India
Hi Gurus,
Could you please help me on the following point.
When Ecess and SHCess is calculated on total of TDS+Surcharge, how am I supposed to do the portray dependency??
Example:
We have the following WTH Type and Code defined
Sec 194C - Contractors Invoice TDS W1 W1
Sec 194C - Contractors Inv with Surcharge W2 W2
Sec 194C - Contractors Inv ECS E1 E1
Sec 194C - Contractors Inv HSC E2 E2
Invoice amount Rs 10000.
W1 tax rate is 2% on 100% base = 10000 * 2% = 200
W2 tax rate is 10% on 2% base = 200 * 10% = 20
E1 tax rate is 2% on 2,2% base (ie W1+W2) = 220 * 2% =4,4
E2 tax rate is 1% on 2,2% base (ie W1+W2) = 220 * 1% = 2,2
How can we defined the dependencies for E1 and E2??
Thank you for your help.
Christophe.Hi ,
I was done like this below what i mention in my project ,and your senario also like this only so For E1E2 i am using K3 K4.
you can compare with this example
Portray dependencies between with holding tax types:
2% K1 45 KA 49
0.2% K2 46 KB 50
2% K3 47 KC 51
2% K4 48 KD 52
Use of the inherent base: incase of K3 &KD u2013 Education cess is calculation on K1 & KA respective
Select with hold tax type: K3
Select details button
Dependent on type No: 45
Save
Select back arrow
Select K4, KC &KD
Select details button
For K4 u2013 Dependent on type No: 46
Select new entry button
For KC u2013 dependent on type No: 49
Select next entry button
For KD u2013 Dependent on type No: 50
May be this information is useful to you
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To.TDS-Sec-194I 22000
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My problem is that we are not able to get Section Code wise information in this particular Document in T.Code J1INQEFILE.System gives total tax amount under one section.Please advise me what should i do ? we have to devlop any report or is there any standard report?
Please advise me ,
Thanks in Advance.Hai,
J1inqefile will provide the output based on section code only.
Raghav -
J1INMIS : Correct amount not picked while challn printing
Dear Gurus,
I am facing problem while running tcode J1INMIS for Challan Update Status.
When I am running the transaction system is showing INR 178 amount against WHT tax code CC . which I can see in the accounting document also. but while updating challan, system is showing another amount INR 3,270 which is a service tax amount.
Can anybody suggest why system is behaving like that.
Thanks in advance
Rupesh Kumar SinghDear GB,
Providing the accounting document and the WHT figure for your reference
Accounting Entry passed by the system where you will see the TDS amount is 874/-
HNGL 1 31 3200000589 hariom Logistics Pvt Ltd 37,676.00-
HNGL 2 70 21200000 000081000203 0000 38,550.00
HNGL 3 50 14351000 TDS a/c contractors 874.00-
HNGL 4 50 14360000 S.Tax on Inward Fght 964.00-
HNGL 5 40 25402400 S T Receivable-GTA 964.00
HNGL 6 50 14360100 E.Cess on Inward Fgh 20.00-
HNGL 7 40 25402500 EC on ST Rec - GTA 20.00
HNGL 8 50 14360200 HS EC on Inward Fgh 10.00-
HNGL 9 40 25402600 HS EC on ST Rec-GTA 10.00
J1INMIS
Doc. No. Sec Posting Dt. Sec Cd. W.Tax CD W.Tax amt Payment due Dt. Base Amount
76004300 194C 31.03.2009 ; RISR CC 874.00- 31.05.2009 ; 38,550.00-
After pressing Challan update button
Doc No. Ref. No. Doc Type Doc. Date PK BA INR Gross
76004300 5926 R2 07.02.2009 50 RSR 964.00-
Here you can see it is appearing 964/- i.e service tax.
I am unable to understand why system is showing right value but at the time of posting it is picking wrong value for some cases.
Hope above description will help you to understand the problem. -
Hi Friends,
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8121650 P-Catering-Emp 1,002,498.75 dr
4501950 B-GR / IR - Services 891,110.00 cr
4501900 B-GR / IR -Materials 111,388.75 cr
While performing LIV we choose only material & vendor is subject to TDS, so following entries has come:
ABC001 ABC Industries ltd. 870,917.44 cr
4501950 B-GR / IR - Services 891,110.00 dr
4551000 B-TDS Paybl-194C 17,822.20 cr
4551001 B-SC Paybl-194C 1,782.22 cr
4551002 B-ECess Paybl-194C 392.09 cr
4551003 B-HSECess Paybl-194C 196.05 cr
Vendor had paid 111,388.75 thru FI entries. Now there is a pending amount in
4501900 B-GR / IR -Materials 111,388.75
When I am seeing G/L open balances in FBL3N I could see the amount 111,388.75 for against this PO.
When I checked in MR11 there is no entries appearing against this vendor / PO.
Can anyone suggest how to deal in this case.
Regards
Sai KrishnaHi
MB5S is a report - you cannot post any transactions from this report. It only gives the outstanding amount on purchase order. Suppose if delivery cost is posted in GR and not invoiced. Then it will show on this report. You have to pay vendor by posting IV. You cannot cancel any entry from this report.
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Difference in Profit center for GR/IR account in MIGO & MIRO Transaction
1) We have created material 106267 with material type ROH. We have assigned profit center 1001052999 (common profit center) to material.
2) We have created WBS element MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF with profit center 1001052002.
3) We have created PO 4000000236 for account assignment category u2018Qu2019 for the above material with WBS element MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF . After posting GRN for PO 4000000236 we have identified that for GR/IR account profit center is taken from material master & for stock account profit center is taken from WBS element.
Please find the below Flow
In MIGO
Entry
Accounting Document number in Entry View
5000001125
PSKY G/L Code Description
Amount
Curr.
Profit Center
WBS element
89 231101 RAW MATERIAL STOCK 2,000.00 INR 1001052002 MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
96 162101 GR/IR-Material -2,000.00 INR 1001052999 MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
Document number in Ledger View
L.item PK SG Account Description Amount Curr. Tx Profit Ctr WBS element
1 89 231101 RAW MATERIAL STOCK 2,000.00 INR 1001052002 MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
2 96 162101 GR/IR-Material -2,000.00 INR 1001052999 MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
3 50 162001 InterSegment Clrg -2,000.00 INR 1001052002
4 40 162001 InterSegment Clrg 2,000.00 INR 1001052999
It should take profit center from WBS element for GR/IR account & Stock account but for GR/IR account profit center is taking form material master & for stock account profit center is taking from WBS element.
MIRO
Entry
Accounting Document number Entry View
5100000657
PK SG Account Description Amount Curr. Tx Profit Ctr WBS element
31 100000 Ambuja Cement Ltd -1,996.00 INR V4
86 162101 GR/IR-Material 2,000.00 INR V4 1001052002 MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
40 254001 VAT Receivable 80 INR V4
50 172103 TDS PAYABLE -194C -42 INR
50 176101 WCT-TDS payable -42 INR
Document number in Ledger View
PK SG Account Description Amount Curr. Tx Profit Ctr WBS element
31 160100 CRS-Domestic Supp -1,996.00 INR V4 1001052002
86 162101 GR/IR-Material 2,000.00 INR V4 1001052002 MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
40 254001 VAT Receivable 80 INR V4 1001052002
50 172103 TDS PAYABLE -194C -42 INR 1001052002
50 176101 WCT-TDS payable -42 INR 1001052002
In the MIRO Accounting Document profit center for [162101] GR/IR-Material A/C has taken from WBS element
Please note that we are using document splitting with Profit center is mandatory
We have created same scenario for Cost center. After posting the GRN profit center is taken from cost center for both GR/IR account in MIGO & MIRO accounting documents.
Plez helpHello
ANy suggestion for question & if solved do let me know -
Outgoing Payment not allowed with witholding Tax 8.8
I am getting error "No Matching Record Found - PCH4 ODBC-2028" while making outgoing payment
in SBO 8.8
W.Tax applied on A/P invoice and showing correctly but error is coming while making payment against
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What's wrong.
OPSHi Sanju,
I have tried both way:
(1) First I created service Invoice and applying witholding tax... It calcualted TDS correctly.
When I try to make payment against this Invoice, Outstand Amt showing correctly.
But it does not allow me to add outgoing payment and giving error "matching record not
found PCH4-ODBC-2028"
(2) I created service Invoice and not applying WTax. Even it is not allowing to make payment
as same error is coming.
In gen practice, we have to deduct, TDS of all contractors. let me know some clue. I did setup
exactly as per guideline of How-To documents of SAP.
Any clue by any one
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Withholding tax Ecs rounding problem
Dear All,
I have one issue when I am calculating the TDS. When Calculating the TDS
Basic, surcharge, ECS and SEC has to be rounded off to their nearest value
if it is below or above 0.50.
But my case ECS is rounding off to 1 eventhough it is below 0.50.
For example:
Vendor Invoice amount is Rs.780/- on this we are calculating TDS.System
has to show entry like this.
Expense A/c Dr 780.00
To TDS Basic 194C Cr 16.00 (2% on 780)
To TDS Surcharge 194C 2.00 (10% on Basic)
To Vendor Cr 762.00
But System showing..
Expense A/c Dr 780.00
To TDS Basic 194C Cr 16.00 (2% on 780)
To TDS Surcharge 194C 2.00 (10% on Basic)
To TDS ECS 194 C 1.00 (2% 0n Basic+Surcharge)eventhough it is 0.3432
To Vendor Cr 761.00
I am using A1FS Standard W/tax type CA, CB, CC, CD and M1 WTax Code for
194C Others.
Eventhough I checked below checked ..
Financial acounting->Financial Globalsettings->W/tax->Extended W/tax->
Calculation->W/tax Type->Define Wtax type for Invoice/Payment Posting.
Here Rounding rule is " W/tax comm. round"
In ->Define rounding rule also is rounding unit "100"
But still my issue is open. Please guide on thisDear All,
I have one issue when I am calculating the TDS. When Calculating the TDS
Basic, surcharge, ECS and SEC has to be rounded off to their nearest value
if it is below or above 0.50.
But my case ECS is rounding off to 1 eventhough it is below 0.50.
For example:
Vendor Invoice amount is Rs.780/- on this we are calculating TDS.System
has to show entry like this.
Expense A/c Dr 780.00
To TDS Basic 194C Cr 16.00 (2% on 780)
To TDS Surcharge 194C 2.00 (10% on Basic)
To Vendor Cr 762.00
But System showing..
Expense A/c Dr 780.00
To TDS Basic 194C Cr 16.00 (2% on 780)
To TDS Surcharge 194C 2.00 (10% on Basic)
To TDS ECS 194 C 1.00 (2% 0n Basic+Surcharge)eventhough it is 0.3432
To Vendor Cr 761.00
I checked below
Financial acounting->Financial Globalsettings->W/tax->Extended W/tax->
Calculation->W/tax Type->Define Wtax type for Invoice/Payment Posting.
Here Rounding rule is " W/tax comm. round"
In ->Define rounding rule also is rounding unit "100"
But still my issue is open. Please guide on thisCheck the Tax type configuration for ECS, it must be selected as "Rounding Up".
Make it "Comm. w/t rounding". It wil solve your problem.
Thanks
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