Temporal Join Hierarchies

Hi,
I am currently working on BW HR reporting and in that context temporal join of hierarchies seems relevant for reporting organizational assignment.
Three questions:
1. I can see that temporal join of hierarchies must be enabled on infoobject level, e.g. on 0ORGUNIT. Will it afterwards be necessary to enable it on hierachy or query level? We do not want to get in a situation where just enabling temporal join of hierarchies on infoobject level affects existing hierarchies or reports based on this infoobject.
2. To what degree will performance be affected?
3. Will temporal join of hierarchies work in both BW 3.5 and BI 7 reporting environments? (We have done a technical upgrade to BI7 but still using BW 3.5 queries / web templates)
Appreciate any input on this!
thanks,
Ørnulf Andresen

Dear Ørnulf,
1. Besides enabling it on InfoObject level, you also have to specify settings in the query designer (in the properties of the query).
2. Performance will be affected, because the hierarchy could be larger than with a single key date. If necessary you can also increase the hierarchy buffer (notes exist).
3. For using temporal hierarchy join, you must make the settings in the Query Designer 7.0. But the query can be used in 3.x templates
Kind regards,
Luc Boodts

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