Thir party + subcontracting without PP component

My client gives material for subcontracting to a subcontractor who is physically near to the customer. There is no point in bringing all the material from Chennai to North India. So the requirements is that the material should be given for subcontracting (scenario of steel industry with the concept of external processing agent) and the subcontracting instead of sending the materials back to the client should deliver the material to the customer. He shall send a copy of the GR to me and on that basis he shall send me the bill. After miro of the bill my accounts department shall give him the payment. As far as I know SAP does have the provision of creating a new item category which shall work both as third party and subcontracting. This matter is pending since a long time. Currently they are doing it outside SAP.
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Hi
I think you can straight away use the third party process and sub con. Please try and let us know
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1 RTP can be received as free tick or with transport equipment..
2 For mapping bank guarranty consult with FI...for FI functionality..
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I have some subcontractor related problem.
In subcontracting process component to be supplied by " Third party" not by our company,we create the purchase order and given the delivery address to the subcontractor address. in this process which movement type is use for transport the material to the vendor and which movement type is use by system to consume the supplied material. what is the procedure please explain in detail.how many PO have to be created in this process.
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Hi,
The third party sub con scenario involves two PO's as below,
1. The third party PO , u need to create third party PO for ur component material to be supplied by third party to ur SC vendor.
The PO will be std NB , wr in delivery adrs tab u will check the check box for SC vendor and maintain the SC vendor
and when u do the GR for this PO , the material will be with SC vendor stk, u can chk in MMBE. The movement type will be 101 only for doing GR
2. The second PO is the finished material PO which u will place for ur SC vendor - which will std doc type NB , with item category L.
The finished material will have BOM maintained.
The main point in third party sub con scenario is the transfer posting ie goods issue will not be done ie 541 movement type for component material will not be done. Since the third party PO has already supplied material to SC vendor.
Here u do direclty GR for SC vendor PO, at that time 101 will recieve ur finished material and 543 will consume ur component material which u have supplied to ur SC vendor via third party vendor.
And u can chk after this in MMBE the sub con stk will get reduced for component material.
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our case is an Inter company third party subcontracting.
Plant A in company code 1000 sends Component X to Plant B in company code 2000.
Plant A asks his third party to send Component Y to Plant B.
Plant B assemble X and Y and deliver finished material Z to Plant A at last.
I proposed SAP standard scenario for third party subcontracting:
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6- when Plant B sends finished material Z to Plant A, Plant A do GR based on PO (SC). SAP receive Z and consumes X and Y right off.
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1- it is not sap best practice for intercompany subcontracting.
2- they said there is an extra GR in my scenario.I mean when plant A creates PO for third party, and Plant B do GR, the components must be provided to vendor Auto, and there is no need to do GR in plant A place.
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you totally miss the production part in plant B.
if your plant B produces material, then they usually do this in the PP module via production or process orders. they have to record the machine ours, the labor , the have to plan etc etc.
How can plant B take the material from subcontractor stock which is just special stock in plant A? What movement type does plant B use to send the produced material to plant A?
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I have one doubt regarding the third party subcontracting process. I have created a PO with delivery address as that of SC vendor.
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Can someone tell me the process after a PO is created for this scenario???
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Umakanth.

Hi,
As I perceive you are speaking about the provision of subcontracting components from one of your vendor directly to another one,
In this case you did well if you wrote the vendorID in the suitable field on 'Delivery address' tab of your PO. 'SC Vendor' thickbox should be also checked. This is not the subcontracting PO itself, it is only a PO to procure the components for subcontracting - your SC vendor receive the components directly. That's why there's no point in speaking about 'L' item category.
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You put a question mark at "you can as well go ahead with subcon itself?". What does it mean? Is my previous 2 quesions set the correct logic?
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