Third party is sending IDOC (EDI_DC40 relevant?)

Hi,
I need to send an IDOC from a third party to an SAP system via XI. My problem is the first part: ThirdParty->IDOC.
Now I have done the following steps:
- RFC connection between Third party and XI works fine
- define Third Party as busines system in SLD and assign a logical system name to it
- enter logical system name in BD54 in XI and SAP
- define sending IDOC communication channel
- define receiving IDOC communication channel
My question for the sending part:
Are there any entries in EDI_DC40 for the sending third party system neccessary for XI (Sender System/Port/... Receiver System/Port/... etc.)? If yes which entries are neccessary?

Logical System name you should maintain when you are creating a Business System inSLD not in BD54 of XI, then you should create the same logical system in SAP using BD54 transaction and maintain a partner profile and inbound idoc config.
After you import the Business System into Integration Directory, then you should open the business system (double click) and menu Service --> Adapter-Specific Identifiers and make sure it is populated.
regards
SKM

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