Time Machine and AirPort Updates v1.0 - killed my hard drive
I just "updated" my software, installing the Time Machine and AirPort Updates v 1.0
and I instantly lost my Time Machine hard drive, my MBP now says it is not recognizable and will likely have to be formatted. Is this happening to other people? Please be careful installing this update!
From Maxtor's website:
Cannot Erase External Disk Drive Errors in Mac OS X (10.5) - Leopard
Description
When trying to Erase an external drive in Mac OS X (10.5) Leopard, I get the error, Cannot Erase as seen in this video. How can I resolve this problem?
Answer
*Leopard (Mac OS X - 10.5) seems to be having problems reformatting external drives. This seems to be a common issue on Leopard that is seen on most brands of drives.*
Note: This is not a problem with the External Drive. Rather, it is an issue with the Disk Utility found with Leopard.
Suggestions - If reformatting the drive in Disk Utility fails, there are two options:
Note: If you got to the point where you attempted to use disk Utility to Erase the external drive and it, failed, you may have to take the drive back to a Windows System to repartition and reformat. Click here to launch a video showing how to prepare an external drive using Windows Vista.
Reformat the drive on an older version of Mac OS X.
Boot off of the MacOS 10.4 DVD, access its Utilities Menu and prepare the external drive using Disk Utility
Backup any data first, take the external drive to another Mac, launch Disk Utility and reformat the drive as Mac OS Extended or Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
If another version of Mac OS X is not available:
Open Finder > Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility
Select the external drive and click on the Partition tab
Click on the Current Volume Scheme drop-down menu and divide the drive into 2 (or more) partitions
Click Options. From the Partition Schemes provided, click on the GUID Partition Table radio button. Click OK.
Click Apply. The Partition Disk screen opens.
Click Partition. At this point, the volume dismounts from the desktop and the drive is partitioned and formatted into multiple drives with GUID Partition Table scheme.
Note: When Volumes are created, Time Machine may open asking if you would like to use the volume for backups. Click Cancel to proceed.
When finished, select the Disk Utility from the Apple Menu and choose Quit Disk Utility (recommended)
Relaunch the Disk Utility, select the external drive
and click on the Partition tab
Click on the Current Volume Scheme drop-down menu and select One (1) partition.
Click Options. From the Partition Schemes provided, click on the Apple Partition Map radio button. Click OK. Select other options as desired (e.g., Volume Name, Install Mac OS 9 Drivers, etc.).
Click Apply. The Partition Disk screen opens.
Click Partition. At this point, the volume dismounts from the desktop and the drive is partitioned and formatted into multiple drives with Apple Partition Map scheme.
Note: When Volumes are created, Time Machine may open asking if you would like to use the volume for backups. Click Cancel to proceed.
When finished, select the Disk Utility from the Apple Menu and choose Quit Disk Utility (recommended)
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0x82ffbce8 : 0x40d648 (0xc09de00 0xc09dd00 0x0 0x3ea76c)
0x82ffbd38 : 0x40d7fb (0xc09dd00 0x4 0x0 0xb6dde00)
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0x82ffbe08 : 0x8404c236 (0xbb2c200 0x0 0x0 0xbb2c200)
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The genuis was probably referring to a hard disk enclosure…
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/MISC/3.5USB2ENCL/
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