Time machine to make bootable external hd?

I just got a new MacBook for christmas. I used Macs years ago, but not in the past few years. Have a question:
I had a 200 gig external usb drive handy, so I used it to do a Time Machine backup yesterday, now that I've got my mac all set up with my personal files, software installed, etc. It worked fine (though took LONG for only 40 gig of data). I've heard that it's possible for newer macs and 10.6 to boot from an external usb drive. Which got me thinking it might be a good idea to pick up another external usb drive, RESTORE my time machine backup to IT, and then if my internal drive dies, I'd be able to immediately boot off that external drive and be in business until I get around to replacing the internal drive.
Anyway, it seems like a good "preventive maintenance" thing to do. My question is if this is indeed possible, what pitfalls I might run into, and the order of steps I should take to pull it off correctly.
Much thanks for any help.

eegad wrote:
I just got a new MacBook for christmas. I used Macs years ago, but not in the past few years. Have a question:
I had a 200 gig external usb drive handy, so I used it to do a Time Machine backup yesterday, now that I've got my mac all set up with my personal files, software installed, etc. It worked fine (though took LONG for only 40 gig of data). I've heard that it's possible for newer macs and 10.6 to boot from an external usb drive. Which got me thinking it might be a good idea to pick up another external usb drive, RESTORE my time machine backup to IT, and then if my internal drive dies, I'd be able to immediately boot off that external drive and be in business until I get around to replacing the internal drive.
Anyway, it seems like a good "preventive maintenance" thing to do. My question is if this is indeed possible, what pitfalls I might run into, and the order of steps I should take to pull it off correctly.
yes, this is possible. in order to restore TM backups to the external first reformat the external correctly. it should be formatted mac os extended journaled and the partition scheme should be GUID. (that's important). then boot from the snow leopard install dvd and use the 'restore system from backup' utility in the Utilities menu to restore the backups to the external.
the main pitfall here is that TM is still quite buggy and it's sometimes known not to back up (and restore) everything that it should. and you might not notice this right away. the best thing to do is to make a direct bootable clone using CCCloner or Superduper instead of restoring from TM. this will save you time and you won't be relying on just TM for everything.
Much thanks for any help.

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Time machine to make the backup of an external disk

Hi community
I’m using time machine to make backups of my Mac as many people do, but now I’d like to know how can I use it to backup on a different time machine disk, the content of an external disk. don’t know if I’m clear enough, that’s a complex question and my english is what it is.
I will reformulate just in case. I have a 1Tb external disk that I want to backup from time to time. So the idea was to plug that disk on my MacbookPro, plug a 2Tb disk that I would use as backup or time machine disk (not the usual one that I’m using for backing up my Mac), and that the Mac will automatically backup one to the other.
right now I’m making security copies every 3 months just by copying the whole content of the first disk to the 2nd one, but it takes 24 hours to do it, and since the content to be copied, does not change a lot, I think that backup program will improve it quite a lot.
thanks in advance.
regards
PD: if you think of a more efficient way to do it not based on Apple’s Time Machine, I’m all ears specially if it’s simple and user friendly.

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Hallo ,why is it that when I delete a photo ,which is backed up by time machine and western digital external hard drive , that I am able to restore the photo okay but not the titles and descriptions . I have a Macbook 4.1, mac osx 10.5.8 . Iphoto 7.1.5 ,

QUESTION.
Hallo , my question is ;whenever I delete a photo and restore it through Time machine and Western digital external hard drive , I am able to restore the photo but not the titles and descriptions . Western Digital inform me that it isn't their external hard drive problem and suggest that it is an Apple software problem ?
I am using a Macbook 4.1 , with Mac OSX 10.5.8 . I photo 7.1.5 , last modifie4d 01/05/2010 -universal . Should I be upgrading Iphoto ?
I hope that someone is able to help in this matter , as i have to restore 12000 photos !
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Hallo Kieth ,
I am not quite ready to restore the full iphoto library , as I have days of work re - imputting titles,descriptions and enhancement . I hope that your suggestion works , as I use my Macbook basically to work with digital photography. Through time , I will need to delete my library to recover more disc space and I would hate to have to spend more time re - imputting titles and descriptions all over again .
Thanks for your interest and advice.
regards - Alan

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