Time Machine Wireless Backup. Network connection lost
I have my old PowerMac G5 configured as my backup server using Time Machine. The computers attached to my network via ethernet backup successfully. When I try to backup my laptops via wireless, The process starts and then quits after backing up a portion of the drive. The wireless connection is being dropped. This happens with my MacBook and MacBook Pro. I am using an Airport Extreme configured for wireless N only.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
No, no microwaves. My phone is one of the new dect 6.0 types that is not supposed to interfere with networks. I wonder if this issue is connected to the drop out problems people are having with their airports?
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Is it possible to give a lower priority to Time Machine wireless traffic? It is nearly impossible for me to stream video during a Time Machine backup. A feature to give priority to non-time machine traffic would be great. Many routers allow you to give higher priority to certain data (e.g. VoIP), and a similar feature would be great. Can this be done now? If not, how do I suggest this to Apple?
No, no microwaves. My phone is one of the new dect 6.0 types that is not supposed to interfere with networks. I wonder if this issue is connected to the drop out problems people are having with their airports?
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HT3275 time machine wireless backup
We have a network admin with 5 Mac Air Books that connect to an Aruba wireless network most of the time. When they are connected via wireless, their time machine backups fail. If they connect wired, it is successful. I am coming into this issue completely cold. I'm not even a MAC guy.. (that is to change very soon ) .
Any suggestions? What to look for? Does the agent point to the physical NIC and not the wireless ??
Thanks in advance,
DanIt sounds like you are about to start either a massive sale of MBA.. or a Damascus Road conversion experience!!
The TM connects by AFP protocol.. (another new part of your learning curve.. yeap, apple have their very own protocol)... to the TC... which should be in bridge.
What appears to be happening is the Lion OS is having some issues remembering where the TC is.. even though internet is still working. This failure happens in pure Apple environment so I doubt your Aruba wireless is related at all. Generally it happens on both wired and wireless.. so your issue is a little different in only failing via wireless. Open a terminal (under applications, utilities, and use the arp -a command to see if the TC MAC address is lost)
There is some great info for you to read.
http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
Installing the widget.. allows easier access to the logs which give fairly detailed picture of what has failed.. look at A1.
But I also recommend you read even if hastily survey the FAQ on the site and a bit of explanation of how Time Machine actually works and it own quirks.
The Log in the TC is also helpful.. I am assuming the MBA are all on Lion.. so make sure you download airport utility 5.6 for Lion as the installed version 6.0 is the latest but not so greatest version lacking the depth of the original v5 utility.
If you find a series of AFP connect and disconnect in the log.. this is a bug in Lion/7.6 firmware..
You might do better going back to 7.5.2 in the TC which was much more stable.
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Is there any way to disable time machine based on network connection?
I would like to have time machine not run when I am on my wireless connection, but be enabled when connected via ethernet.
Is there any way to do this automatically?
Thanks!Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ If you’re running Mac OS X 10.7 or later, open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the page that opens.
Click the Clear Display icon in the toolbar. Try the action again. Post any messages that appear in the Console window – the text, please, not a screenshot. -
Recently upgraded to mountain lion in order to buy the new tall tower for time machine backups. had to get technical support to help with set up as it wouldn't play ball with two computers. all working fine up until last week when the iMac started getting backup error messages. then system restarts independently when using time machine on the time machine wireless network. only stops restarting when I switch the wireless network back to he bt one, which is a pain obviously as can't back up to time machine then. it has to be a problem with airport utility or something wireless but all says all up to date with software etc. all still works fine backing up from laptop on the wireless network, just the iMac is not happy. any help or thoughts very much appreciated.
Hi, many thanks Bob, what you say is not unthinkable at all, although it does answer the question
"what could I do *instead* of ..." rather than the one I actually asked, but seriously ...
Shutting down might be an answer, although it would clear out my tmp directory - which I might not want to have to sort through looking for things I want to save every time I go to work, and also, now that nvram doesn't seem to work for disabling the boot chime, it can get a bit embarassing booting up in a busy meeting if I have forgotten to mute before I shut down. There are all sorts of other issues, such as editing documents, loading web pages and so on that I would have to set up again.
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Moving Time Machine Drive from Direct Connect to Network Share
I have a 1 TB external USB 2 drive I use for my Time Machine backup. I'd like to move that drive to a file server and continue backing up to it. The problem appears to be that when backing up to the drive as a network volume, Time Machine wants to create a new sparsebundle for the backup and not use the existing TM backup folder on the drive.
Is it possible to migrate a Time Machine drive from direct connect to network while preserving the backed up data? Thanks!Kenneth Kirksey wrote:
I have a 1 TB external USB 2 drive I use for my Time Machine backup. I'd like to move that drive to a file server and continue backing up to it.
Depending on what "file server" you're using, that may or may not work reliably. Here's the criteria they must meet: Disks that can be used with Time Machine. And be careful here: just because some 3rd-party hardware claims to support Time Machine doesn't necessarily mean that Apple supports it, or that it will work in all circumstances.
The problem appears to be that when backing up to the drive as a network volume, Time Machine wants to create a new sparsebundle for the backup and not use the existing TM backup folder on the drive.
That's correct.
Is it possible to migrate a Time Machine drive from direct connect to network while preserving the backed up data? Thanks!
See #18 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum). -
Can I use an older (flat) Airport Express to attach an ext hard drive and backup time machine wirelessly? and how?
can I then connect a HD with itunes music and photos?
Now we are drifting from the original question.
Im alreadty using the HD attached to my Mac Pro...can I just connect it to the Extreme and access it wirelessly with any device on the wifi net?
You may get another opinion on this from another user, but I do not recommend this either, based on a number of experimens over the years with this.
Access to your data on the drive will be much slower. iTunes will tend to "lose" the library this way and you will have to re-point the iTunes application at the library on a regular basis.
Things are even worse with the iPhoto library. The experts over in the iPhoto support area strongly advise that you do not do this, since any break in communication between the iPhoto application and iPhoto library can easily corrupt the entire library. A wireless connection makes things even more dicey.
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Choose Connect to Server from the Finder's Go menu, provide the first computer's IP address, log in, and set it up in the Time Machine pane of System Preferences.
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My mac can't connect to my time machine for backup
My mac wont connect to the time capule for backup - any ideas why this may happen and how to fix?
Hello stianlo
There are a few things that you can try that are located in the articles below to get you backing up again.
Time Machine: Troubleshooting backup issues
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3275
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1170
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NeuroBrain wrote:
Since my new external hard drive is have a lot of space, I'm thinking of splitting it for Time Machine and external storage.
This is a common mistake and I highly advise against it.
1: TimeMachine saves states of changes and thus requires more room on the TM drive than the boot drive it's backing up.
2: Something happens to the TM drive, loss, theft, dropped, power surge, etc., you lose both backups.
3: The storage drive might become a portable need, with it being on the TM drive, now your increasing the risk to the TM backup that something could happen to it along with the storage drive, due to increased movement.
Seriously, have a read,
Most commonly used backup methods
it's ASC User Tip that saves us regulars all the trouble of having to repeat ourselves over and over again in the posts, because we tend to forget things too, or not here sometimes etc.
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I have three macs on a wireless network. all machines have a relatively large amount of data (over 120GB). i have a 2TB USB drive lying around that i wanted to use for time machine backups. what i want to do is to "seed" the backup of the other machines by attaching the USB drive to them, doing a local backup (very fast) and then setting time machine to point to the USB drive that will be shared by one of the machines all the time. is there a way to trick time machine to recognize the backup it already did on the USB drive if it is not attached locally? my testing has shown that time machine wants to do a full backup when i mount the drive over the network, but then again i don't have much experience with time machine and cannot find any settings other than backup location.
seb_mbp wrote:
I have three macs on a wireless network. all machines have a relatively large amount of data (over 120GB). i have a 2TB USB drive lying around that i wanted to use for time machine backups. what i want to do is to "seed" the backup of the other machines by attaching the USB drive to them, doing a local backup (very fast) and then setting time machine to point to the USB drive that will be shared by one of the machines all the time. is there a way to trick time machine to recognize the backup it already did on the USB drive if it is not attached locally?
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I have a 1T Time capsule with an external hub connected to the time capsual. The Time caspsule creates a wireless home network which has the internet connected to it.
To this external hub I have a printer connected along with 2 external WD 500 Hard Drives. I wanted to use one of these WD 500 HD to store my iphoto library and data. I then wanted the time machine to backup the WD 500 HD to the time capsule, which currently is where the time machine backups are stored.
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Is this possible?Hello DazImac. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
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Is this possible?
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ARC3: RFS network connection lost at host 'stdbhost'
Hi there,
having oracle 8.1.7.4 64 bit on Aix 4.3.3 replicating on a twin machine.
While archiving many logs within few minutes i'm having this error:
ARC3: RFS network connection lost at host 'stdbhost'
ARC3: Error 3113 creating standby archivelog file at host 'STDBIDIP.IDI.IT'
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Then after few seconds it retries and succeded. My clause in the primary db is:
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My database was replicating from about two months without problems. Then we activate it for test and now i rebuilt it but now having problems i mentioned above.
I have followed the same procedure.
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hi
all i want to do is extend my home wireless network....
i have disabled my thompson wireless router TG782T and connected my time capsule to this via ethernet
how do i get the time machine to transmit a wireless signal?
do i have to reset unit?
will i lose all my backed up data?
i also want to connect an airport express to extend coverage ( i can connect this via ethernet or wi fi)
any assistance would be fantastic
Thanks in advance
Kerls71I am going to need a bit more info..
What OS are you running on the computer you are using for the setup and what airport utility??
When you say you disabled the Thomson wireless router.. do you mean you bridged it? Or just turned off wireless?
There are two scenarios.. each are pretty well equal..
Turn off wireless in the TG782T and run the Time Capsule (Time Machine is backup software on the computer). in bridge mode with create a wireless network.
Or bridge the TG782T and run pppoe client in the TC.. which will also create a wireless network..
Either scenario will be fine.
You do not have to reset the TC .. just set it in correct mode via the airport utility.
Even if you reset the unit.. you will not lose any data backed up on the hard disk.
An express can extend the wireless or use roaming network.. again either are possible setups.
Roaming is much faster but you need to run ethernet to the express. Otherwise setup extend wireless.. just use the instructions. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4259
Roaming instructions are here.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260
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