To handle scrap parts in production kanban
Hi all
We are running kanban production in machining centers. A kanban card is shot to EMPTY to generate a production order before production and then shot to FULL to make goods receiving 101 after production. If there is scrap parts happening during the production of a kanban, what is the right way to handle? To be specific, I have the following questions and let's say the kanban size is 20 pieces -
1. Should we always fulfill a kanban with a full kanban size, meaning we produce 21 pieces when the operator finds 1 piece of scrap? Or should we just finish production of 20 pieces no matter how many of them are scrapped? What if the QC department finds another 1 piece of part out of tolerance afterwards? When on earth should the kanban card be shot to FULL?
2. If the scrap part has happened due to the bad quality of raw material, should we still do scrapping movement 551 in SAP? I mean, we will need to ask for replacement for the bad materials and it should not go to our cost center finally.
I understand the questions could be naiive but really any input would be highly appreciated.
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Hi,
system only knows that if the BIN is Full , it propose the GR. You need to decide whether you really need a good materials in the bin or not
you have the option to do.
1. If you need the 20 pieces without scrab in one Bin , you need to have the final operation as the inspection in the Routing. so when ever the material is going faulty you can scrab it and you can fill the Bin with the good materials .
or
2. If you donot worry about the lot as you told 20 pieces with/ without the rejection material . you produce the material for 20 alone . it may have faulty or scrab one in them. afterr inspection you can do rejection.
Its depend on the business the end user need.
1. for srab the material , you need to use the 551 movement. obviously it will ask for the cost center.
if you have maintianed the cost center for rejection materil. you can enter this alone.
or if you need to do the rework for this material. you need to create the new rework order in the co07.
the order should have the order type -rework.
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