Tomcat vs. JServer

What is the difference between Tomcat and JServer?
What is the difference between the repertory webapp (jServ) and WEB-INF (Tomcat)?
What is the difference between the file web.xml (tomcat) and DataTags.tld (jServ)?
And the big question:
Its possible to export a taglib create for Tomcat in a jServ and usable whit jDevelopper? If Yes HOW?
Thanks
Ben
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Tomcat vs jserv

Can anyone tell me that why 9i is integrated with jserv not with tomcat? Actually, Apache is no longer to develop the module of jserv.
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Lisa,
We have not certified or tested this configuration.
I have heard rumors of a developer that did get this configuration to work, although it was difficult to set up and configure.
Rich

Apache Tomcat vs JServ?

Is it possible to swap the JServ engine (supports Java Servlet 1.1) that comes with 9iAS with Apache's Tomcat v3.1.2 (which supports Java Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1)?
Has this been tested or certified by Oracle?

Lisa,
We have not certified or tested this configuration.
I have heard rumors of a developer that did get this configuration to work, although it was difficult to set up and configure.
Rich

Jserv vs Tomcat

We are testing iAS9 and it cames wit apache Jserv. Now apache is recomending to use tomcat instead jserv, must we chage to tomcat or continue with jserv ?
What about oracle jvm ?
Thanks

Before I would remove Apache JSERV rrom any Oracle IAS version and replace it with TOMCAT or any othe rproduct. I would review the licensing documentation that came with the product.
As i inderstand it, you will be invalidating your Oracle support agreement for that install.
This means any issues you run into in your "modified IAS configuration" will have to be reproduced - by you - in the "IAS product's delivered modules -- as provided by Oracle" -- before Oracle Support can assist you on any bugs that need to be filed with Oracle Development.

Deploying a war file on Oracle's ApacheJServ

Hi all,
I am attempting to deploy a war file on Oracle 9i's Apache JServ. The docs from Oracle are immense and I haved searched them to no avail.
Does anyone know how to deploy a war file(that I have created with netbeans) to JServ?
Specifically what directory to drop the war file into(Tomcat it is webapps and then restart and the app is ready)
I am hoping it is this easy in JServ.
Thanks in advance!!!

I love precise questions like this. :)
My understanding is that JServ does not automatically unpack WAR files, which might be why you're running into problems. I do notice that Sun Microsystems at this point recommends Tomcat over JServ so I seriously doubt you'll ever get that functionality. You will have to manually unpack the WAR and place the files where they should go.
I do remember that servlets must go into the c:/JServ/servlets directory, and the zone.properties file in that directory must be modified to recognize the presence of the servlets you are adding.
This was before JSPs so I'm not certain where they go. The Oracle documentation I just looked at implies that you can place JSP files in the c:/Apache Group/Apache/htdocs directory as if they were normal HTML files. They do not mention whether you have to configure Apache to redirect JSPs to JServ. I would think this is the case, and suggest looking at the JServ specific documentation.
If you're still stuck, let us know and we'll help you research it further.

How to set the Server CLASSPATH?

Hi all Oracle Java experts,
I know this is a rather stupid questions:
Where can I set the CLASSPATH of the Servlet Engine in Oracle 8.1.7.?
I spent hours now searching the documentation and found loads of hints what to add to the CLASSPATH in which circumstances, but not how to... Of course I know how to use the CLASSPATH in a normal Java environment, but not in the OSE.
In the "Oracle8i Application Developer's Guide - XML" it says in the "Using XSQL Servlet" Chapter:
"How you set the CLASSPATH of the web server's Servlet environment and how you associate a Servlet with a file extension are done differently for each web server. The XSQL Servlet's Release Notes contain detailed setup information for specific web servers you might want to use with XSQL Pages."
Unfortunately, the Release Notes contain this information for Tomcat, Apache JServ etc., but not for Oracle's own Servlet Engine... Maybe you should include that information.
Thanks for any help;-)
Cheers
Olaf
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Not sure if I understatnd the context in which you want to set your classpath.
IDE, java or system but ...
look at the profile file /etc/profile
CLASSPATH= "/usr/local/jdk1.4......"
export CLASSPATH
or
javac -classpath .;/usr/local/jkd1.4.... test.java
or
whatever your ide provides.

Is any Oracle 8i/9i available for NOVELL 5.X ?

What version of Oracle is available for Novell 5.X without problems.

Ah! a developer on a REAL networked OS (:-))
Essentially, 9iAS is Tomcat and Jserv with the Orion Apps Server. The problem is going to be that the native code for Oracle is not supported on Novell.
However, the good news is that all the components are available for Novell, as long as you have the newest patched version of the OS and NLMs (5.1+) and the J2EE JVM, bugfixed, from June 2001 or later. You may need to rewrite the deployment options to take advantage of the NLMs, but everything should work fine.
The above said, among the things you won't have available to you is the PL/SQL servlet and others of the Oracle-specific functions. All of the pieces/parts that the implementation is avaialble on are available for Novell 5.x and word is that Websphere 4 will come bundled with NetWare 6. Considering that Mr. Larry has elevated IBM to 'Oracle Enemy #1' ahead of Microsoft, they would be foolish to ignore what is still the 2nd largest desktop networking platform on the market, especially considering IBM's relationship with Novell.
Said relationship considered (and the obviously friendlier attitude at IBM for Novell), and since Websphere is available for Netware, and can connect to Oracle databases (although DB2 is faster on Novell) Websphere may be the better choice.
Apache.org and java.apache.org are where you can find the web server and jserv, respectively, jakarta.apache.org is where you can find Tomcat, and orionserver.com is where you can find the orionserver (the OC4J component, which is also a webserver, jsp container, servlet container and ejb container). Orion runs Perl, Python and PHP at the appserver, too. Since Orionserver is between 4 and 8 times faster than Apache/Tomcat and over 32X faster than Jserv, I don't understand why Oracle made the implementation so complex, but there it is.
You might also investigate deploying on Solaris and redirecting to your webservers on your Novell servers (or vice versa.)
Hope I was of some help.
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What is the default root of the servlet engine in IPlanet v6?

I am trying to get java based code to work on IPlanet's webserver/servlet engine version 6. The servlets are being inited, but they can't find their .properties files (xml variable files). I have been able to install this code on many servlet engines including JRun, Tomcat, and Jserv by placing the .property files into the default root of the servlet engine. In JRun, for example, it would be Allaire/Jrun/servers/default. I have tried placing them in several directories and adding them individually to the classpath, but still no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,
Please place your claspath in jvm12.conf file.
Which will be under /server-root/https-instance/config/jvm12.conf.
For more info about how to set classpath for running servlet. Please look out the below link.
http://docs.iplanet.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/50/servlets/serv.htm#17272
http://docs.iplanet.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/50/servlets/xjvm.htm#21181
http://docs.iplanet.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/50/pg/2-config.htm#1069613
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Dakshin.
Developer Technical Support
Sun Microsystems
http://www.sun.com/developers/support.

What exectly is supported in Oracle8i AS

Can somebody tell me what version of the following are supported by Oracle8i AS.
Servlet API(2.0/2.1/2.2)
JSP (1.0/1.1..)
JDK (1.1.8, 1.2, 1.3)
Please mention if Oracle8i AS supports JSP1.1 as given by Sun or does it use it own language and which version of Servlet API is supported directly
Note: The question is for Oracle8i AS.
Thanks,
satish

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kuassi Mensah ([email protected]):
Satish
Oracle9i AS supports:
- Oracle Servlet Engine is Servlet 2.2 compliant can be reached from Apache using mod_ose
- OracleJSP is JSP 1.1 compliant(+ bunch of tags) and runs on OSE,Tomcat and JServ
- Oracle9i JVM (which refers to the whole Java engine, not only the VM) is JDK 1.2 compliant
Kuassi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I need info. for Oracle8i AS. Thank you for the help.

NSAPI version of mod_jserv (Apache), anyone?

I am trying to use iPlanet web server 4.1 and redirect Servlet to Jserv/Tomcat.

Are you trying to redirec to JServ or Tomcat? JServ has been dead a long time now.
Tomcat integration is well documented within the Tomcat docs
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.2-doc/tomcat-netscape-howto.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.3-doc/tomcat-netscape-howto.html
You do realize that iWS also has a servlet container, BTW?

Debugging with iPlanet

Has anyone been able remote debug with JDeveloper 3.1 and iPlanet 4.1? In order to enable JSPs on iPlanet, I had to point iPlanet to the JDK that comes with JDeveloper.
If anyone could tell me how to configure iPlanet and JDeveloper for this, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Chris
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I don't have an iPlanet installation here to try this with, however the iPlanet documentation must include information for how to support remote debugging.
JDeveloper's remote debugging supports both JPDA (Sun's standard for remote debugging, it's an add on component of JDK 1.2.2 and built-in starting with JDK 1.3). as well as OJVM protocol (Oracle's VM specific extensions).
I'd find out from the iPlanet documentation how to allow a JPDA debugger to attach, and then just let JDeveloper use the standard JPDA mechanism to get this to work. This works on Tomcat, Apache JServ, as well as many other envionments (I debug my Java application on my Linux machine from JDeveloper on my WinNT desktop)
Hope this helps,
Rob
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Apache with JServ or Tomcat?

What�s your preferences in relation with JSP web server: Apache with JServ module (or another want you considerer better) or Jakarta-tomcat?
I have used both, but I don�t know exactly which one I should use in my new job.
Thank you everybody and good luck!

JServ, while fine in its time, is now outdated and will not be updated. If you want to use any features added to the JSP or Servlet API's in recent years, you need to use Tomcat.

How to deploy JSP-appl. to JServ, JRun, Tomcat, ...

Or put another way: How do I create a Web Archive File containing
my JSP-appl. that can be deployed to any JSP1.1 compliant server?
My experience is that it is impossible, but if someone can defy that, I'll be glad.
It seems that the methods used in the oracle.jbo... packages for retrieving resources like .properties-files and xml-files that belongs to one specific application, demands that the files be found through the classpath for the JVM.
Hence they must be in the classpath for the JSP-server when it starts,
and cannot be placed in <appl.home>/WEB-INF/classes or in a jar-file under <appl.home>/WEB-INF/lib (where they should be placed, according to JSP spec.)
Is this in fact so, and if it is, does anybody know if Oracle have plans of making the necessary changes in BC4J to correct it?
(Sorry if this issue has been debated earlier...)
Regards,
Erik
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I think JServ does support JSP 1.1. but Tomcat should work fine.

Tomcat and Apache JServ

Hi,
Wanted to know regarding the performance difference between apache'Jserv and tomcat.
I'm using apache with Jserv for JSP and i have an search engine application which fetches values from the database and if multiple users are accessing the site at the same time...the JVM goes 100% and the page is not displayed.
I wanted to know that if i switch from Apache and JServ to Apache and Tomcat..will it make any difference performance wise or will it be the same.
Platform: WindowsNT
Backend: Oracle 8i.
Thanks in advance.

To my understanfing, JServ was the older jsp container from apache and it is not being developed or maintained anymore. Tomcat is the new apache jsp container and it is activley develped (They release minor version very often).
You can find more info on the tomcat documentation at
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat
Ylan

Apache 2, Tomcat 4 and Oracle's XSQLServlet not working together

Hi
I cannot even get the basic demos in ./demo/java/xsql to work with this combination of technologies.
I am running this on Red Hat Linux 8. Apache and Tomcat work fine, the CLASSPATH is set and I have created the Alias etc.
I believe that the .xsql type is not being processed by my XSQLServlet, because calling up http://localhost/xsql/ brings up 3 raw xsql files in the browser.
All the documentation I have found describes using XSQL with older Apaches and JServ. JServ is now replaced by Tomcat and Tomcat 4 is much different from earlier versions of Tomcat. Despite that I believe I have guessed and made the correct changes to httpd.conf and web.xml to make the XSQLServlet work.
Has anyone got these to work ? I've been at this for days and am driven half mad by it ! All that has kept me at it is that this seems like a magnificent combination of technologies. Many thanks in advance... for any advice at all.
- Des

AndyRTR wrote:Please check the new libreoffice version in testing. It should work with openjdk6 and jre7-openjdk. Not sure if closed
Oracle jre7 from AUR will also get detected.
Thanks for the info. Yaourt -Syu will be my friend
Java7 is recognized, great. Too bad java web plugin could be blacklisted because of security matters.
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