Too many edits in multi-cam a problem?

I'm editing a 30 minute piece with 3 cameras and there are a lot of quick cuts. All went well till I got to the 20 minute mark and the multicam edit window started lagging. In other words, I'd push one of the 1, 2 or 3 keys to choose a source and the red border would take a noticeable time to move. I'm not sure if the edit occurred at the point I hit the key or the point the red border moved. I've got a new Win 7, x64 machine with 6GB and tons of disk, captured footage on RAID0. Restarting PP and rebooting don't help. Splitting the sequence I'm editing into two parts seems to fix the problem, implying when you get to too many edit points the multicam feature bogs down. Anyone else see this? Is there some tuning that might reduce this effect?

This is on CS4, latest updates.

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Multi camera synchronization problems on Premier CC

Hi
I'm working on PC. I've encountered a lot of problems in working on multi camera in Adobe Premiere CC. Could anybody could help me solve these problems?
1- when I work on Multi camera, after doing some edits, when I put some inserts in upper layers, the synchronization (sound-film) gets lost.
2- In working on Multi camera, after lots of edit and choosing of different cameras, when I close and reopen the project, the edit points are still there, but the image is from elsewhere (not sync at all) and you've actually lost all the time you made edits.
3- In another example: after using some cameras and doing some edits on Multi camera, when I closed and then reopened the project, all of that layer was back on one camera (camera 3).
Thanks, Jim.

Is the "linked selection" icon selected or not? You can find that on the top right of your timeline. Toggling it allows you to drop a nested sequence (eg. multicam) on a timeline as either one single nested clip or as the expanded view with all the clips showing which it sounds like you are referring to. It's the middle icon here:
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Multi camera synchronization problems on Premier CC 5 minutes ago

HiI've encountered a lot of problems in working on multi camera in Adobe Premiere CC. Could anybody could help me solve these problems?
1- when I work on Multi camera, after doing some edits, when I put some inserts in upper layers, the synchronization (sound-film) gets lost.
2- In working on Multi camera, after lots of edit and choosing of different cameras, when I close and reopen the project, the edit points are still there, but the image is from elsewhere (not sync at all) and you've actually lost all the time you made edits.
3- In another example: after using some cameras and doing some edits on Multi camera, when I closed and then reopened the project, all of that layer was back on one camera (camera 3).

Aah, looked a bit further and it seems to be a bug in the program! Looks like I have to start again!!!

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I have to edit a show I did not shoot- 3 panasonic AF100A cameras supposedly synched TC wise, with the main camera receiving a feed the show audio board. Each camera has a different view, so I obviously want to pick and choose the best coverage to make a lean looking show a tad better. I've been told the best option is to edit in multi-camera mode. True? Using an iMac, with show files on an external HD. I imported each of the files into the project by clicking the 'private' folder for each. Then I selected them all, selected multicam option and then show in timeline. Couple of questions: do I need to sync the beginning of each clip or does the TC take care of that? It appears my main video and audio track is off a bit- should I just pull all the tracks as far to the left as possible to ensure timeline synching?
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I'm not ignorant, I just haven't used Premiere in years and I'm primarily a shooter, so any help or advice is appreciated

I have to edit a show I did not shoot- 3 panasonic AF100A cameras supposedly synched TC wise, with the main camera receiving a feed the show audio board. Each camera has a different view, so I obviously want to pick and choose the best coverage to make a lean looking show a tad better. I've been told the best option is to edit in multi-camera mode. True? Using an iMac, with show files on an external HD. I imported each of the files into the project by clicking the 'private' folder for each. Then I selected them all, selected multicam option and then show in timeline. Couple of questions: do I need to sync the beginning of each clip or does the TC take care of that? It appears my main video and audio track is off a bit- should I just pull all the tracks as far to the left as possible to ensure timeline synching?
How do I view each camera at the same time, so I can compare footage?
I'm not ignorant, I just haven't used Premiere in years and I'm primarily a shooter, so any help or advice is appreciated

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Did you try what the Unlimited RT setting?
The multiclip threshold is dependent upon your system. Based on your OP, it seems as if you have the drives for it, but what about your computer?
I was able to use 7 clips of 1080i Pro Res content in a multiclip before I got an orange (unlimited RT) line above my footage.
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its not as hard as it may at first appear Pete
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thats it ... now you should see your 3 clips displaying simultaneously in a 4 up display in the viewer

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I have just finished completing a full synchronisation of multiple cameras and audio sources that took some imense amount of time to finish - phew!
Now I need to edt this into 11 separate songs, each with its own opening and closing titles.
I cannot easily cut in or using ripple delete or another cutting tool to change this without the calamity of losing sync.
I almost need to save this whole project as a scene and then re import it as another sequesnce and just cut it to suit each song but still not sure what method for saving it as I do not want to drop a generation.
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I'm sure you're way ahead of me, but my simple question is stacking and synching your various cameras and using multi-edit wasn't what you wanted?

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Looking for this page:
http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/editing-multi-camera-sequences.html
But for CS6, not CS5.5 and earlier. This stuff has changed for CS6, but I can't seem to find the help documents that talk about it, and we don't yet have the PDFs to look stuff up in. Anyone show me where to find it?

There is a pretty simple way to sync multiple tracks of video on the timeline using unnumbered clip markers. Basically you find the frame in each track you want the all the tracks to sync to and in each track add an unnumber marker at that point. Then there is a command that will move the tracks to line up those unnumbered markers and, shazam, you are synced! Here is an excerpt from a help discussion from Adobe:
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Make sure that you’ve marked the sync points for each camera’s footage before you attempt to synchronize them. You can mark the sync points by setting similarly numbered markers for each clip or by reassigning each clip’s timecode. (See Add markers and Set timecode manually for a clip.)
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Select the clips you want to synchronize.
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No audio in multi-cam edit

I finally managed a near perfect sync of my 3 sources and am ready to do the multi-cam edit thing. Except, when I bring the source sequence into the multi-cam sequence and enable the source sequence for multi-cam, there's no audio when i go play it or edit in multi-cam.
Anyone know what's going on?
Thanks for any help you can throw at me,
Jon

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Need help with the new Multi-cam feature in CC

Hi,
I'm trying to use the Multi-cam feature in CC and have a few questions, so would be happy with help/advice for any of the issues below. The platform is Windows 7 Pro 64bit.
The first question is what am I doing wrong? This question relates to the fact I'm trying to use Multi-cam and encountering a lot of frustrating glitches, as sometimes it seems to work and at others it doesn't.
The video I'm trying to edit comes from a dance show so I created a sequence called Act 1. I then highlighted the six clips of Act 1 with Cam 01 at the top, as I wanted the audio from this clip and made a Multi-cam feature using the audio synch. I dragged it to the sequence, set the prog window to Multi-cam and was amazed at how well it had synchronised all clips, as I could see all six clips with great audio synch from Cam 01. So far so good and after thinking how brilliant it was, things went downhill from there
I started by using ripple delete to drag to the start of Act one and then tried editing with Multi-cam. That's where I encountered the first problem, as sometimes it seemed to toggle between cams but didn't put edit points in and the selected cam had a yellow border and not a red one. At other times it inserted edit points when I changed cams and the selected cam has a red border. I can't work out what I'm doing, or not doing for this to happen. Can anyone help please?
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When I tried Ctrl double click I ended up with only Cam 02 showing in the V2 track and after some frustrating attempts at resolving this issue I decided to start all over again. I deleted the PP project and created a new one, importing everything again. I followed exactly the same procedure as I originally did to create a Multi-cam nest, but when I dragged it to the new sequence I saw Cam 02 in V2 of the sequence, which is the same as it was before I deleted the original project. Premiere Pro seems to have annoyingly remembered the actions that went wrong, so please can anyone tell me how to tell Premiere Pro not to do this?
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In Premiere Pro, multi-camera is accomplished by nesting a sequence. There's a new, more automated way of doing this in CC. View the steps here: http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/04/a-quick-walkthrough-of-editing-a-multi-camera-s equence-with-clips-synchronized-by-audio.html
HOWEVER, you must be warned that multi-cam in CC is currently broken. A patch is in the works, but until it is released you should not use multi-cam in CC.

Multi cam synced, can't create the new seq from clip

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That helped, back at it - thanks. New trouble - although I can now make the multi-cam target sequence of the correct duration, I move into program monitor for editing the multi cam display enabled, the separate sources/cams no longer show in the window... it's just blank. I've checked my vid drivers- up to date with manufacturer (not windows) updates.

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I am editing a multi-camera piece in my sequence and using the multi-cam monitor to see the other angles. The only thing is that I can only get realtime playback on the preview window and not in the multi-cam window, it only updates in the multi-cam window once playback has stopped.
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Jim Simon wrote:
on the left side (what I call preview) of my multicam window. On the right side (what I call program)
Those aren't the right terms. On the left you see the "angles". On the right you see the "preview". The Program Monitor is a separate thing and not part of the Multicam window.
With the Multicam window open, the Program Monitor will not update during recording or playback. The angles and preview inside the multicam window should play fine. Are you saying they don't?
Well I guess I'm what they call old school. In my world as sports truck Director and Technical Diretor, anywhere you see your sources before putting them to air is "preview" and anywhere where you see the output is program. I'm not sure, though, why the industry has to reinvent the wheel and change terminology from what it's been for years. Guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
At any rate, to answer your second question... no they do not play fine in the multicam windows. I do see all four sources in your "angles" pane on the left and the output in the "preview" pane on the right. When I hit play in the multicam window they play fine for about half to one second both panes begin to intermittently freeze for about another second then they both freeze completely. I can shuttle (scrub in your world) through the main sequence and the multicam window will play with some jerkiness but it's not stable enough to be useful. If I hit play on the main sequence window both the program and the multicam windows will play but will do the same lockup thing after a couple of seconds.
I'm just copying my project off of my external drive to the internal drive to see if that helps things out. I'll update when that's done in an hour or so.

Rapid Tapeless Multi-camera workflow with OnLocation

I am wondering whether anyone is using OnLocation for rapid (read almost instant) tapeless workflow.
What I would like to do is:
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2 - Record the ISO on four separate laptops running OnLocation via a Firewire feed from each camera.
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http://www.convergent-design.com/CD_Products_nanoFlash.htm
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