Trigger BPM from Other BPM

Hi, how can I do to trigger an X BPM from other Y BPM, I tried just sending the same message that start BPM X from BPM Y but it doesn't allow me?
Any Ideas on how to do this?
Regards,
Pablo

Hi,
>>Should the sender interface from BPM X be the same as the receiving interface in BPM Y?
Yes. Use the same Abstract Sync interface in the send step of BPM X and Receive step of BPM Y.
>>do I have to use the SynAsyn Bridge at all or is this something different?
Yes. You have to open S/A bridge in the receive step of the BPM Y.
Thanks,
SaNv...

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<pre class="jive-pre"><p />msg as String = "Hello World"
jmsMsg as Fuego.Msg.JmsMessage
msg = "<?xml version=\"1.0\"?><Msg>" + msg + "</Msg></xml>"
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