Trigger Extra Change Pointer Update

We have Price and Quantity fields configured on PO for creating change pointer records.
When both of the values (NETPR & MENGE) are changed at the same time then everything works out great in BW but if let say only Price is changed then there are issues.
What I need is if only the Price is changed then during the update of the PO the record for Qty should also be created in change pointer tables (CDHDR & CDPOS). If you can briefly describe how to do it that will be great help and I will highly appreciate it.

I figured out a way to do this which was to implement the BDCP_BEFORE_WRITE BADI which allows you to interrogate a change pointer based on an IDoc message type before it's saved to the database. For starters, change pointers for message type CLFMAS must be activated in order for this to work, even though I'm not interested in those eventual IDocs.
In the IF_EX_BDCP_BEFORE_WRITE~FILTER_BDCPV_BEFORE_WRITE method of the BADI implementation, I was able to loop through all of the change pointers about to be created and this is where I was able to obtain the vendor number the classification is being applied to. I actually added another line to the internal table that's changeable in the method for CREMAS and it worked out well.
The only thing that was difficult was to debug this baby. No matter how you set the breakpoint, it just never hits it until I discovered it's called using an UPDATE TASK. I found an unorthodox method to debug this situation on the web which is to force an endless loop before your custom code such as.........
while sy-subrc <> 98.
endwhile.
<custom code here>
Once your process runs, it will be sitting in an endless loop in an update task which you can view in transaction SM50. From here, you can highlight this line then you can click on "Program Session > Program > Debugging" to debug your code. It's not something I was used to, but it allowed me to debug in the end. I would hope there's better ways, but this worked for now.
I hope this helps someone else!
Cheers,
Chris

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Trigger CREMAS change pointer for vendor classification change in XK02/FK02

Hi,
I have a business case where I need to trigger a change pointer of type CREMAS whenever a client modifies vendor classification in transactions FK02/XK02. I realize classificatiion/characteristics have their own change pointer types (CLFMAS, CHRMAS, etc.), but I was wondering if there was a user exit/BADI available for this scenario where I can manually create a change pointer. I need the characteristic data to be part of a custom IDoc type (based off of CREMAS03), and it's no problem to include this data in the custom IDoc, but I need a way to trigger the change pointer if the clients changes vendor characteristic data, and nothing else.
I also went into transaction BD52 for type CREMAS to see if there's another row for classification (CLASSIFY), but couldn't figure out the right object type.
There's a BADI called CACL_VALUE_CHANGE that triggers when vendor classification is changed, where I can generate my change pointer, but it's triggered before the client saves which means I would have a useless change pointer.
Does anyone have any ideas on what my options are? I hope I've elaborated enough
Thanks,
Chris

I figured out a way to do this which was to implement the BDCP_BEFORE_WRITE BADI which allows you to interrogate a change pointer based on an IDoc message type before it's saved to the database. For starters, change pointers for message type CLFMAS must be activated in order for this to work, even though I'm not interested in those eventual IDocs.
In the IF_EX_BDCP_BEFORE_WRITE~FILTER_BDCPV_BEFORE_WRITE method of the BADI implementation, I was able to loop through all of the change pointers about to be created and this is where I was able to obtain the vendor number the classification is being applied to. I actually added another line to the internal table that's changeable in the method for CREMAS and it worked out well.
The only thing that was difficult was to debug this baby. No matter how you set the breakpoint, it just never hits it until I discovered it's called using an UPDATE TASK. I found an unorthodox method to debug this situation on the web which is to force an endless loop before your custom code such as.........
while sy-subrc <> 98.
endwhile.
<custom code here>
Once your process runs, it will be sitting in an endless loop in an update task which you can view in transaction SM50. From here, you can highlight this line then you can click on "Program Session > Program > Debugging" to debug your code. It's not something I was used to, but it allowed me to debug in the end. I would hope there's better ways, but this worked for now.
I hope this helps someone else!
Cheers,
Chris

ALE/Change Pointer Configuration for ZSEGMENTS

Hello all,
I have been searching for a few days now trying to obtain my requirement with extending of an idoc. I am working with the following:
Message Type: HRMD_A
BASIC Type: HRMD_A06
Extension: ZHRMDA06
I extended the idoc because I wanted to include 2 extra infotypes which are not on that idoc. Infotypes 77 and 709.
Here is what I have completed so far.
WE30...Created ZSEGMENTS to include below.
WE31...Extended the HRMD_A idoc to include the ZSEGMENTS defined below.
WE82...Updated the output types and assignments to idoc.
BD61...Activate Change Pointers
BD50...Activated change pointer for HRMD_A.
I change the address field in infotype 0006.
Run the BD21...idoc is generated with the changes to address, everything looks good.
Do the same thing for the ethnic origin on infotype 77, no idoc is generated.
I turned on logging onto table PA0077.
I am evaluating the change logs via SCU3, and I am seeing my changes on the field.
What I have tried...
I have tried creating a object in t-code SCDO (ZTEST)
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I have been researching for a few days and it feels that this should be able to be done through configuration and not custom coding. Am I wrong to think that?
Has anyone ever did anything like this before which they can point to documentation or even the appropriate search criteria on the SCN forums.
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Jason

Hi Jason,
I believe you have to enter the fields that trigger the changing pointer in tcode BD52. In my case these are the fields for BOM:
Regards,
Custodio

Update Terminated change pointer ID already exists

Hi All,
While we are creating the article or purchase info record creation.
When I checked the SM13 i got this error.
Update was terminated
System ID.... RDP
Client....... 510
User..... PRASH
Transaction.. XK01
Update key... 4993DEF56A574020E1000000AC19005E
Generated.... 12.02.2009, 19:22:54
Completed.... 12.02.2009, 19:22:55
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Prashant

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Can you share with me, how you solve this problem? I'm encounter the same thing when using Tcode: FK02 to change master data, with same error message. Thanks.

HRMD_ABA change pointer trigger not work for info type changes

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In change pointer for message type HRMD_ABA Certain changes to HR records like adding activity types to infotype 315, changing dates to infotype 0001, 0105 and 315 and adding/changing/deleting are not woking through change pointers.
We are are replicating those changes through RHALEINI program, so can anyone let me know how to customize in case of adding this info types to trigger automatically through change pointers.
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Marai

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A trigger that changes an insert into an update?

This is probably a quite unusual question, but is it possible to create a trigger that changes an insert into an update?
So, if someone tries to do something like this:
INSERT INTO SOME_TABLE (column1, column2, column3) VALUES (value1, value2, value3);
...the trigger is able to change it into:
UPDATE SOME_TABLE column1=value1, column2=value2, column3=value3 WHERE ID=1;
Can it be done?

Hi,
You can do things like that in an INSTEAD OF INSERT trigger.
See the PL/SQL manual for details:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/appdev.111/b28370/create_trigger.htm#sthref2864
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What is change pointer in ALE ?

Dear Guru,
1. What is change pointer in ALE and how to configure it ?
The process of configure please guide me !
Tanks and Regards,
Subash.

Hi,
Change pointers are R/3 objects that mark changes to SAP master data. Change pointers are managed by mechanisms in a Shared Master Data (SMD) tool and are based on Change Document (CD) objects. CD objects record the changes occurring to master data at a field level. These changes are stored in tables CDHDR (header table) and CDPOS (detail table). ALE configuration provides a link between CD objects and change pointers. Internal mechanisms update tables BDCP and BDCPS, which host the change pointers. While CD objects are application-data-specific, the processing status of change pointers is message-type-specific. Also, the ALE change pointers are activated first at a general level and then at the message-type level.
ALE provides powerful capabilities to capture changes occurring to master data and to distribute them via the IDOC interface. This feature can be used to keep two or more systems synchronized with respect to master data.
Steps to configure change Pointers:
1.Activate the change pointers globally(BD61)
2.Activate the change pointers for individual message types(BD50)
3.Schedule the program RBDMIDOC to run periodically on the sending system.
To Delete Change pointers use transaction BD22 and the standard program is RBDCPCLR
Remember You can see a check box in Further characteristics tab of the data element ( se11>enter data element>Further characteristics tab) for change document.
This check box is to bo checked to trigger change pointers.
please check out the following link for more information it might help you
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/12/83e03c19758e71e10000000a114084/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/dc/eb683c00e8a646e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
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Fernand

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ALE change pointer

Hi all ,
Can anyone suggest any link where i get step by step / complete procedure to create change documnet and change pointer to trigger IDOC for changed master data?
thanks & regards
Sheetal

Hi,
Please go through SAP Technical sites for details. You can check this [Link Also.|http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ABAP/ALEChangePointers]
[Check This also|http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1048973.html]
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Reg : change pointer mechanism for triggering the IDOC for delivery note

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I am working on a change pointer mechanism for triggering the IDOC for delivery note and will be using this message class DESADV.
So SAP has suggested for assigning the message class DESADV with the function module in MASTERIDOC_CREATE_SMD_DESADV in BD60 transaction code.
So I was looking to create this MASTERIDOC_CREATE_SMD_DESADV function module in SAP and SAP suggesting that we should create this MASTERIDOC_CREATE_SMD_DESADV function module as same as the function module MASTERIDOC_CREATE_SMD_MATMAS.
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Regards,
Kiran

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Mahesh.

Transaction for using change pointer technique in ALE -IDOCS

Hi,
please let me know the following points.
1: while using change pointer technique , any change in the sale order(any field ) will trigger IDOC or only specific field change. Or do we have to specify field on which we want to trigger IDOC?
2:When IDOC gets genrated from change pointer , does it contain complete sales order or only change fields?
3:Do we have Native format of IDOC in 4.6c ?? XML format??
Please reply soon.

Hi,
For the changes to be carried over by change pointers, the steps followed are,
If it's gonna be the vendor master for which change pointers needs to be activated,
- goto SALE transaction ->Modelling and Implementing business processes ->Replication of Modified data -> Activate Change pointers - generally / for message types.... or as said in the earlier post, alternatively BD61/BD50.
- Schedule a background job for program RBDMDIOC providing the message type(CREMAS) for which the change pointers needs to be processed.
- Now for any changes made to the vendor via transaction XK02, automatically CREMAS IDocs would get generated with the IDoc carrying the changed fields in it. You would also be able to find the number master and communication IDocs generated from the joblog of the scheduled RBDMIDOC background job.
~ Bineah.

Change pointer for Sales Order

Hi,
Using change pointers I want to create an IDOC when ever a specific field in the sales order line item is changed. I have activated the change pointer for message type ORDRSP. Also maintained the following entries in BD52
VERKBELEG(Object) VBAP(Table) ABGRU(field).
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Thanks
Ram

Hi Ram,
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Hi,
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