Troubleshooting Guide To Boot Camp 2.1

Troubleshooting Guide To Boot Camp 2.1
With a Mac Book Pro Os X Leopard and Windows XP Pro. I am providing this guide because I spent literally days fixing various problems most related to bad drivers. If I can save you the Nightmare I had it will be worth my time to write this guide for you!
Install Windows XP on FAT32
While using Mac if you ONLY want to be able to read XP files (NTFS or FAT32) then skip this section because OS X Leopard is able to correctly detect NTFS and FAT32 disks in READ ONLY mode.
However if you want to be able to read & write XP files (NTFS or FAT32) in Mac then you would install a program like Paragon NTFS or NTFS-3G. However once you do this you will experience this Problem:
Windows partition missing from Mac 'startup disk' menu when using NTFS-3G or Paragon NTFS in Mac (Bootcamp 2.1 fails to fails to show windows disk in startup menu after installing NTFS-3G or Paragon NTFS)
It is unclear who is to blame for this bug. Both Paragon and NTFS-3G DO NOT KNOW HOW TO FIX the problem so the finger is pointed at this being an Apple Boot Camp bug! Don't hold your breath for a bug fix from Apple because I saw people have been having this problem for several years. It would be nice if the Apple cared a bit more about the Windows people they are trying to win over but anyway we are greatful for Boot Camp (even if it is as buggy as ****).
First my personal experience, I had it working perfectly before and after loading NTFS-3G onto my Macbook. I also had it working perfectly with Paragon NTFS. Then after a few months I reinstalled XP. Suddenly it no longer worked! Very fustrating when you KNOW it can work perfectly. It took me several days to figure out that this due to the fact that I had first installed XP and formated as FAT32 but the second time had installed XP and formated as NTFS!!
ONLY KNOWN Solution for this problem :
Format XP using FAT32. Apple understands FAT32 and everything will work as normal!
Do not format using NTFS as Apple does not understand it and XP will be missing from the 'startup disk' menu!
NTFS users can use this work around solution :
Install Paragon NTFS and use Paragon to set your boot partition and then reboot.
The least desirable solution :
Hold the ALT key down while booting and choose XP.
Install Boot Camp version 2.1
Using the the disc that comes with your Apple Mac Book Pro.
After Installation update the following drivers to these versions or newer :
Broadcom 802.11 Wireless (5.10.91.8) (4321AG) (*)
Realtek HD Audio R2.27 (5.10.0.5874) (2009-06-16)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT v185.85 (07.05.2009) (v6.14.11.8585)
Note (*)
Broadcom 802.11 Wireless drivers must be force installed to 4321AG. You can do this after installation by using the device manager and updating the driver to 4321AG. These drivers are 'borrowed' from another Broadcom 802.11 Wireless device since an update for the BCM 4328 drivers are not available from Apple or Broadcom.
Unresolved Issue
Back lighting of keyboard is not working in XP. Apple Bug?
Problems Fixed By Doing These Updates
Bootcamp KbdMgr.exe Latency Problems Slowing Your XP
I could not fix this problem but found an easy work around.
First check if your latency is being affected by the 'KbdMgr.exe' driver. Use 'DPC Latency Checker'. If the latency is green then you are OK! Skip Adead. If your latency is red then kill the 'KbdMgr.exe' in the task manager and check the latency. If it drops then this work around applies to you.
Open the Boot Camp directory in your Program Files directory. The real 'KbdMgr.exe' is renamed to something else like 'Boot Camp.exe' so that you can use it to boot back to Mac when you want to. Create a shortcut to the new name from from your desktop.
Then create an empty text file and give it the name 'KbdMgr.exe'. This will allow your PC to boot normally and run normally but will prevent Boot Camp loading automatically.
Wireless Problems
The Broadcom 802.11 Wireless drivers for the (BCM 4328) are unstable and often loose connection or freeze or stop working for no reason. The driver that causes this problem is version 4.170.25.12 (20/09/2007) BCMWL5.SYS
Sound Problems
The Broadcom 802.11 Wireless drivers (BCM 4328) drivers cause sound problems. Music or sound stutters or slows on playback. The driver that causes this problem is version 4.170.25.12 (20/09/2007) BCMWL5.SYS.
Apple Touch Pad Problems
The drivers supplied on the Boot Camp disc from Apple work but do not install correctly for some unknown reason but the drivers do work once you get them installed. The driver install files are :
AppleMultiTouchTrackPad.exe
AppleTrackpad.exe
Your Apple Touch Pad Drivers are working when Device Manager shows :
Apple MultiTouch
Apple Multitouch Mouse
And you can do a right click by holding two fingers on the touch pad and doing a click
You can scroll up and down using two fingers. Adjust the wheel scrolling speed to one line at a time under mouse properties in the control panel.
To install the drivers correctly use the Device Manager and look under Human Interface Devices. You should find two Apple 'Touchpad' drivers listed with a (Yellow !) change these drivers to use the 'USB Human Interface Device' driver. Then install both 'Apple MultiTouch TrackPad' and 'Apple Trackpad'. This should automatically update the 'USB Human Interface Devices' to the correct working Apple drivers. This worked for me. However if you are still having problems you can try the General Driver Installation Tips.
General Driver Installation Tips
Uninstall all devices drivers that are failing and reboot.
Make sure all non-Apple drivers are working properly. If not try and fix them first. I had a Logitech Mouse driver that was not working and suddenly when I fixed that at least half my Apple drivers started working. There was probably a resource conflict or some other relationship between the Logitech driver and the Apple Drivers.
If any driver is giving errors delete the physical driver file and reinstall! This is very useful when nothing you seem to do works. Sometimes you must physically delete the old driver file so that windows will correctly install the new one. I don't know the technical reasons for this only I found that this worked for me when I had to replace a Logitech Mouse driver after hours of fustration.
If you are busy in Device Manager and working with 'Human Interface Devices' and accidentally uninstall one of these drivers which are related to your mouse driver your mouse will stop working. Don't reboot, just unplug your mouse and plug it in again and Windows will autodetect a new mouse driver for you.
If you have been messing around and installing many drivers and your drivers still fail then try roll back the drivers until you can't anymore and then try one of the above methods again.
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It does work, but I think it is hard based on scant details as to why or what is preventing BC 2.1 from updating. I will say that BC 2.1 came out last spring and there were lots of people having trouble and threads to prove it (and long ones).
You should have Apple Software Update Control Panel which had to update itself to 2.1.1 in order to receive future updates that way (catch 22 if you can't, seems to be only to prevent older owners using BootCamp 1.4 Beta from taking advantage of BootCamp 2.x).
Mac OS X DVD now being sold has 10.5.4 and BootCamp 2.1. I assume your DVD of Leopard is older?
Trouble reports:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1736468&tstart=125
(most problems seemed to be related to XP3, but not all)
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1657888&tstart=125
Do you have Vista SP1?
http://www.techspot.com/blog/204/why-i-wouldnt-buy-the-new-macbook-and-probably- you-shouldnt-either/
BSOD using iPhone or iPod?
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1502
Wireless:
http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
Vista on MBP (ComputerWorld)
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleI d=9003111
MacBook Air and Vista:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mobile/display/apple-macbook-air_7.html
How to use the Bootrec.exe tool in the Windows Recovery Environment to troubleshoot and repair startup issues in Windows Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392/
Vista Crash Recovery Strategy:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=2000003 29
And if you think PCs don't have driver issues or problems.... think again, but usually some dedicated sleuthing and research it is possible to fix.

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    Apple, Intel, Microsoft, Sun etc are members of EFI Group and Unified EFI is supported on Windows Vista SP1 64-bit and later 64-bit versions, but Apple's is more proprietary and differs, but is the sole reason really for Apple's excluding and including which Macs are "supported" (which really isn't true) running Windows 64-bit (Vista/7) - that they have to have EFI64 or UEFI 2.x.
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    Windows and GPT FAQ
    http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/GPT_FAQ.mspx
    *Secrets of GPT* http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#technotes/tn2006/tn2166.html
    Table 1: GPT Summary
    Block Description
    0 Protective MBR
    1 Partition Table Header (primary)
    2 through 2+b-1 Partition Entry Array (primary)
    2+b through n-2-b partition data
    n-2-b+1 through n-2 Partition Entry Array (backup)
    n-1 Partition Table Header (backup)
    The protective MBR is an MBR that defines a single partition entry that covers the entire area of the disk used by GPT structures and partitions. It is designed to prevent GPT-unaware programs from accidentally modifying a GPT disk. A GPT-unaware program sees the GPT disk as an MBR disk with a single, unknown partition. In a way, this is like the HFS wrapper around an HFS Plus disk.

  • Boot camp Windows 8.1 new rMBP / Mavericks

    So, my shiny new 13" retina MBP (first Mac product) arrived Thursday and I decided yesterday would be the day I'd Bootcamp Windows 8.1.
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    - With Windows 8.1 installed I copied the Bootcamp 5 support folder (drivers) onto my Windows desktop and double-clicked the install.exe with a confidence that turned out to be entirely unwarranted as it provoked the following error...
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    At this point I'd lost most of my evening and half of Strictly Come Dancing, and so decided to knock it on the head.
    I hope that some of the above may prove useful for people struggling with one or two of the same problems; at the very least it's encouraging to know you're not the only one.
    Regarding my situation, if there's a root cause to my problems (likely circulating around my own naivety or stupidity) I'd be very grateful for any help in identifying it, but please be patient; I'm not a tech guru, I'm literally just a guy with a new macbook and little computing experience.
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    In Thehatters defence, this was initially posted in the MacbookPro forum and then moved to Boot Camp,
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    Thanks

  • Problem with boot camp

    Hi, how are you all
    I have a problem since 3 months
    I tried something in boot camp and ended up doing something wrong
    Now every time I want to start my iMac I need to hold alt and choose MAC, or else it will take me to black screen that shows "no driver found to boot...."
    I thought it wasn't that big deal, I don't need windows anymore, and it is not that hard to hold alt key while imac starts
    but today I tried to install windows, because I upgraded ram to 12gb and wanted to try them, but I couldn't
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    Redo your install.
    As in Boot from Windows 7 and do a clean install, format the drive which is already NTFS.
    Installation Guide Instructions for all features and settings.
    Boot Camp FAQ Get answers to commonly asked Boot Camp questions.
    Windows 7 FAQ Answers to commonly asked Windows 7 questions.
    Discussions forums Discuss Boot Camp topics with other users.
    Troubleshooting
    iMac displays a black screen during installation of Windows 7
    Symptoms
    When installing Microsoft Windows 7 on an iMac (27-inch, Late 2009) and iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2010) using Boot Camp, a black screen may appear. This can happen because the Windows 7 installer does not include the necessary graphics or Bluetooth drivers for your Mac.
    http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/
    Pay attention to any Apple tips and articles above that deal with your Mac.
    Have your OS X DVD ready for after Windows is installed.
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  • White screen of death and computer halts with ATI 4870 in Boot Camp

    Hi!
    I have just received the ATI Radeon 4870 for my Mac Pro (Early 2008)and have upgraded my Leopard to 10.5.7 and works fine on the Mac side. When I reboot and hold the command key I can see my MAC and my BOOT CAMP 2 options as always before. When I click on boot camp I get a white screen with a black frome around it and there is NO hard disk activity and nothing happens no matter how long I leave the computer alone. Before I had no problem booting into my boot camp loaded with vista 64 bit. I have another partition with parallels and that is fine but not this boot camp partition.
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    Again I have the latest updates of the OS.
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    Thanks for all your time!

    CorkyO recommended what I would do: install old card, uninstall any graphics drivers and delete them, and use Driver Sweeper as well. So that there is nothing there.
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    Don't use Boot Camp Assistant.
    Don't put Windows on the same drive as OS X.
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    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1442 - "Not found" and WAY out of date (167.xx) which would be foolish and obviously would not support Vista or 4870.
    I would pull the Vista drive for another reason, too, so you can start fresh and import or access the files on it later.
    Vista is sensitive to the presence and drive position of where the drive and OS was, the master boot record and such which I confess to not fully understanding.
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    There is a reason why people that play with graphics cards and drivers use Driver Sweeper, it works, and it is essential at times.
    Early boot is under the control of EFI. I don't know what if anything Apple does (I don't trust the firmware updates that were suppose to provide better Windows compatibility only to learn it was mostly for XP and not Vista, and that it added a full 30 seconds to my boot routine into Windows - where EFI + Boot Camp does make Windows think there is a traditional BIOS.... my best summary guess.
    Work with the only factual symptom: pulling one card and putting in 2nd is causing a problem.
    EVGA Guide to troubleshooting graphics drivers and cards:
    http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=396474
    Latest ATI Catalyst Vista/Windows 7
    http://downloads.guru3d.com/ATI-Catalyst-9.5-Windows-7-
    GURU3D Driver Sweeper
    Driver Sweeper 2.0 beta (I'd use this instead.)
    Driver Sweeper forum:
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29
    GPU-Z (latest)
    http://downloads.guru3d.com/GPU-Z-0.3.4-download-2073.html
    http://downloads.guru3d.com/

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    I just installed Windows XP Pro SP2 on its own hard disk on my Mac Pro using Boot Camp.
    Then I inserted the Leopard Install DVD and started to install the boot camp drivers.
    In the middle of installing the "Intel chipset" my Mac Pro froze. The might mouse no longer would move the cursor etc. After waiting 10 minutes, I just rebooted.
    In the troubleshooting section of the Guide, it suggested I re-run the Boot Camp Drivers and click repair. I could not see any "Repair" option. The only option was INSTALL. I tried to install the Boot Camp drivers again and the mac Pro froze again (now showing Broadcom drivers).
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    I was able to complete the boot camp drivers wizard in Windows. But I had to first disconnect my firwire iSight and my Apple USB Modem.
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    Now when I run the Boot Camp Drivers I see REPAIR. I tried that but that did not solve the problem. No drivers are being loaded for my firewire iSight. In Device Manager I see question marks beside iSight.
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