Unable to seek() to Chapter Markers?

Hello there,
In FCP 7 I add Chapter markers to the clip. They are shown in Compressor, and when I open the clip after compression (H.264) in QuickTime player, I can navigate to these markers.
But the Video Player that is based on LightWeightVideoElement does not see them.
The video is played fine, but when I call 'seek()' and pass the time of the chapter/compression marker, the OSMF player chooses some other keyframes.
Any suggestions as to how I can navigate to the chapter (or compression) marker using the 'seek()' method?
Just to clarify the question: it's not about accessing metadata of the clip, it's about making player to go to particualr embedded keyframe of known time.
Thanks,
Igror Borodin

Hi Igror,
same response as in the other forum
My suggestion would be to check with a tool if there's indeed a keyframe at that point. The marker could be a data packet that is interpreted by the QT player - I do not have knowledge about its functioning.
Could you try to specifically insert a frame a that point?
S.

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