Unplanned depreciation ABAA

Hello Experts,
I use ABAA to devaluate an asset(unplanned dep) with value date at 01.01.2010, but the depreciation run still not run for 01.2010.
In AW01N, the column "Ord Dep" for all periods in 2010 still show the origianl depreciation value, but there is another column "Unplanned Dep" added in 01.2010.
Do I need to finish the depreciation run for 01.2010, the column "Ord Dep" for all periods in 2010 would reflect the new value which includes unplanned depreciation?
Is it also the same situation for write-up ABZU?
Thanks.
Claude

Hi Srinu,
Thanks for your prompt.
I want to post the write up value to 12.2009.
Therefore, in ABZU I try to set the Asset Value Date to 31.12.2009, with posting date and doc date as today, but an error say "Enter asset value date in the same year as posting date 28.01.2010".
Then I try to change the posting date to 31.12.2009, an error say"You cannot post write-ups" Message no. AA400.
I am using transaction type 700.
The asset is Capitalized on 25.08.2009
Thanks.
Claude

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Hi Suresh,
Thanks for you feedback.
I had already tried your suggestion; it was the actions which I mentioned under the point (1) in my message.
The system did not generate any FI document, this is exactly the unexpected problem that I am trying to solve.
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Dear Dattatray,
The issue here is not with the fact that no depreciation values have posted. The issue is with the values that have been posted. Let me illustrate by way of example.
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Write up of asset posted March 2008: EUR 135,492.18
Unplanned Depr of asset posted March 2008 EUR 93,605.12
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Expectation:-
Based on this NBV of EUR 41,887.06 you would expect depr to post at EUR1,047.18 per month (41,887.06 / 40 months) over the remaining life of asset. In this case, 3 months would be caught up in March as asset depr start date is 01.01.2008, and balance of EUR1,047.18 to be posted per month until asset written off 3 years and 4 months down the line.
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Hi All,
I have posted the unplanned depreciation thru ABAA and in AW01n, i can see the unplanned depreciation with the posted amount.
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OR
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Dominic
Your this suggestion is really helpful. My client requirement is also that it should look into other ordinary depreciation and since my multilevel has APC-unplanned.
How can this be resolved.
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You cannot post write-ups
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Option 1 SAP recommended, but too cumbersome
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refer this thread for more details
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Option 2
Else, pass a manual JV to shift the depreciation from current month to previous month.... You can remove the auto posting tick in FS00 for depreciation for the time being
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Option 3
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May I just ask if it's possible to run an unplanned posting run for a previous period wherein the depreciation run has already been executed?
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Check this link where the same topic was discussed
[How to reverse unplanned depreciation posted in SAP (ABAA), Is it thru ABSO ?|http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-sem/how-to-reverse-unplanned-depreciation-posted-in-sap-abaa-is-it-thru-abso-2726743]
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