Urgent: Business Area Vs Cost Centre in Manufacturing company

Hello
In manufacturing industry,
Product Profile: Two Whhler and 4 wheeler rpoducts
Types of Products: Sheet metal products, tubular moulding products, sprockets
the activities are ; Moulding, cutting, sheets, welding, etc,
if the company produces 30 products and sells in India and Abroad,
How could you decide business areas and cost centres
Regards
Sunita

Hi,
I think you had missed Materials. You can give consumption accounts assigned to BA in Automatic account assignment , T-Code:OKB9.
Thanks,
Raj

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Pls Send Some Good Doc's on Business Area and Cost Center

Dear Gurus,
<b>Pls Send Some Good Doc's on Business Area and Cost Center.
My mail id is [email protected]</b>
Its Very Urgents.
Regrds
Mahesh

Hello
Check these help links
For Business area:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/5f/1fac7c4aee11d189740000e8322d00/frameset.htm
For Cost Center
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/0b/2a623f507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
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BPS Business Content for Cost Centre GL planning

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Forecasting
Balance Sheet budgeting
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Thanks
Pete

Hi Pete,
All objects starting with 4 are Business content objects. For activating these objects you need to follow these steps:
1.Create customizing transport request in cliet 000
2.Collect required Planning Objects in this transport request: Planning Areas, Global Planning sequences, Planning Profiles
3.Log on to Working Client
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5.Enter Source Client 000
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Problem while changing Business Area in Cost Center Master Data

I am having a problem while changing the Business area in cost center master data, the system does not allow to change the business area due to the following reasons;
1. The transactional data already exists for that cost center
2. The desired date required to be changed, falls between analysis period 01.01.2000 to 31.12.2999
Can anyone help me in order to reslove this issue
Thanking in anticipation
Edited by: Arshad Iqbal on May 24, 2010 2:10 PM

Dear Dejan !!
Thanks a lot for resolving my problem actaully i have tested the scenario in Testing Server by changing the fiscal year and the system allowed to change the business area before any transactional data posted.
Thanks Once Again
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Ch. Arshad Iqbal

Report painter- business area and Cost center

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we have a requirement to create the Report painter report where in the Revenue will be By business area and cost of the particular cost center by Cost element.
i.e revenue by Business area against cost by department.
It it possible to use report painter to create such report?. when i was going through the report painter it does not allow me to pull the cost by department .
Best regards
Rajesh dhulipalla

Hi,
Business consolidation is for more of consolidation purpose and cost center grouping is more for management reporting purpose for cost control purposes.
Both the organizational units serve for different purposes. Consolidatied business will not have much meaning unless you go with EC-CS.
Cost Center Groups are much for control purpose and help in managerial reporting.
Business Units are part of FI Organizational Structure and Cost Centers are part of CO organizational structures.
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Ravi

Field Business Area in cost center cannot be changed

Hello all,
we would like to change the "Business Area FS" (OB65) field for our
company code to required. But if we do that, we have issues with 2 of
our cost centers (ks02, analysis period 01/01/10-12/31/10) that won't
allow us to enter a business area.
We get the following error message:
NA KS134 Field change Business Area is not possible.
Diagnosis: To ensure of existing data, you can only change object
Business Area if no transaction data exists in the change period; that
is, neither plan data nor actual data has been posted.
I have checked with our accounting and the cost center report does not
have any data in actual nor budget.
Somehow I figured out that we do have an entry in table CEKO for this
cost center for 2010. (se16n). I did some further research and tried to
test report RKPLNC18 to delete this entry. But I get the message:
the deletion could not be carried out. The following plan/actual
records are available...
Any suggestions?
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Anne

Hi
You can change the business area in cost center by changing the Analysis period. If there's any data exsist it is not allow you to change the business area. If else block or eleate the cost center and create a new one ( even though this might not permitted if data exsist in related to cost center.
Regards
Kesharika

Business area Vs profit centre

hi,
can any one tell me what are the main differences between business area and profit centre.

Hi Shanker
Business areas are used in external segment reporting (over and above company codes) based on the significant areas of operation (for example, a particular region, a branch, product lines) of a business enterprise. Financial statements from business-area wise cannot be drawn up for commercial and tax law. Business area reports (e.g balance sheets and income statements for specific area) are used only for internal reporting purposes.
Profit Centres on the other hand are internal areas of a company that the responsibility for achieving target profits or productivity goals.
The objective of BA is more for reporting purpose whereas PC allows to analyse areas of reponsibility & to delegate reponsibility to decentralised units.
Thus PC are basically treated as companies within a company & ensures effective control.
I hope this helpls.
Regards
Kavitha
Edited by: Kavitha Emani on Aug 6, 2008 5:20 PM

Change of Business Area to Cost Center (my first thread , please help)

Hi Everybody i'm Charmaine Leena Martin freshly certified FICO consultant , this is my first thread i'm posting, please help me with the same.
A wrong business area has been assigned to a cost center and postings have taken place in the same.
while using t-code KS02: change cost center , for rectifying the business area , i get the following error:
"Field change business area is not possible (transaction data exists)"
so i've created a new cost center and assigned it the right business
and using t-code kb61 : i have posted the documents to the new cost center
at that time system generates a co-document automatically:
But the accounting document of which transfer postings have taken place still shows old business area and cost center
Please let me know why is it so ,
and what has to be done with the CO document that gets posted automatically
and is there any other way out of changing the business area without creation of new cost center
Moderator: Please, search before posting

Hi Leena
Welcome to SDN
Do KB11N to post the cost back to the Wrong cost center
Do an FI Posting again Dr the Correct new cost center and Cr the Old wrong cost center
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br, Ajay M

Functional area and cost of sales accounting (company code 2000) active

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I hope someone can help.
In our sandbox system, whenever I try to convert a Purchase requistion into a Purchase Order I get the following error message : "Functional area and cost of sales accounting (company code 2000) active".
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Kind regards,
Karl

Hi,
Double click on the error message & check the message Number..
Then go to
Spro>MM>Pur
Attributes of system messages & change the Message from Error to Warning..
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Business area and profit centre field to make mandatory in all transactions

Dear Team,
My client wants to make the above mentioned fields mandatory while entering any business transactions. viz. MM,FI / SD transactions. He wants to capture the details Business area wise as well as Profit Centre wise.
Please let me know whether
1. I need to make "Business Area" as well as "Profit Center" field mandatory in "ALL THE FIELD STATUS GROUPS"of particular field status varient. If not which particular field dtatus groups to use. &
2.Whether "Profit Center" or "Cost Center" to make mandatory and to which GL.
Please help.
Waiting for your reply.
Thanks and Regards
Sagar

Hi
A good way to make this Check compulsory in case Document Splitting is active in your system.
Follow the path
IMG>Financial Accounting (New)>General Ledger Accounting (New)>Business Transactions>Document Splitting>Define Document Splitting Chracteristics for General Ledger Accounting.
Here you can make splitting active for Both business Area and profit center.
If any where in the posting system does not find either of Business Area or Profit Center, it would give an error
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Sanil K Bhandari

Migration from Business Area to Profit centre

Hi All,
My client currently uses the business area functionality for management reporting (to capture brand specific financial data). Due to the inherent challenges encountered using business area the strategy now is to migrate to profit center accounting. Id need to establish a road map for the migration and was wondering if anyone has any pointers on how to approach this requirement.
Thanks and regards
Frank

Hi,
My ex-company used to use BA for reporting, and subsequently they moved over to PCA.... with minimal impact of course.
A few considerations :
1. Is your PCA active? Rightfully the profit centres are usually set up as statistical cost collector.... but you might need to check if there is any configuration that prevents cost/revenue from posting into PCA
2. Is the hierarchy in PCA properly set up? Functionally speaking, BA is no difference to PCA since they are both measuring the business by funcational area.... You can create standalone hierarchies in PCA to capture the business reporting, such as legal reporting structures, or Line of Business structures.
3. What kind of reporting is used for Business area.... are they present in PCA?
I think you'd have to think through the steps carefully... if point 1 is met, the change in reporting would be simple enough. Otherwise, you would have to consider how to bridge the data gap.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Gimmo

Custom Search Help for Functional Area of Cost Centre(KS01/KS02)

Hi,
I need to implement a custom search help and custom enhancement for the field Functional Area in Basic Data tab of Cost Centre Create/Change(KS01/KS02) transactions. Details of the requirement are as below:
1. There will be a custom relation for the Cost Centre category and Functional Area which was maintained thru a SAP standard table TKA05 and a custom table.
2.When the relation to Cost Centre category and Functional Area is a one to one it exist in the TKA05 and if its one to many it will be maintained in the custom table.
3. The requirement is when the Cost Center to Functional area is maintained in table TKA05(One to One) in this case the corresponding Functional Area needs to be populated automatically after entering the cost centre and pressing a enter key by user.
4.When the Cost Centre Category and Functional area does not exist in table TKA05 and existing in custom table(One to Many) in this case the F4 should be enabled for user selection with the list of Functional area values corresponding to the cost centre category entered that are maintained in the custom table.
As per the functionality provided by SAP the input help(F4) of the field Functional area in Cost Center does not have any relation with Cost Centre Category. The existing F4 is from the Value Table(TFKB) attached to the domain of FKBER.
Please provide your valuable inputs to implement the above requirement. Your input will be rewareded.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Prasad.

kalyani,
i can see your requirement in below way..
as it just reads: you need to assign the standard cost center help to a z cost center field in component /SAPSRM/WDC_UI_DO_ACC.. which actually is fetched though the component /SAPSRM/WDC_UI_BACKEND_SH
so, if you see the component controller of SAPSRM/WDC_UI_DO_ACC you will see the component
USAGE_SH_F4 /SAPSRM/WDC_UI_BACKEND_SH
USAGE_SH_F4 /SAPSRM/WDC_UI_BACKEND_SH INTERFACECONTROLLER
so you can replicate the same functionality for your z field.
but can you clarify one thing.. why are you going for this z field in place of standard field ?

Business area and profit centre

Friends,
Please tell me difference between profit center and business areas. If reporting can be done using both of them in similar fashion, why can't only one of them be used, instead of using both of them?
There should be a logical distinction between them, please explain that.
Thanks,
A

Hi,
1. Main distinguishing factor is that Distribution or assessment within profit center can be done for allocation of overheads.
No such allocation functionality is possible within Business area.
2. Hierarchical structure for profit center can be created.
Hierarchical structure for business area is not possible.
3. Business area does not need to be attached to any organization structure.
But profit centers can be created under the controlling area.
4. PCA helps to arrive at profitability of business unit
Business area is used to segregate FI transactions pertaining to various
5. Profit Center Accounting as the Product manufactured.
Business area would have been useful only when the Areas of Business are Different.
6. Business area concept is used for making strategic decisions by the management whereas the primary purpose of profit center is accounting.
7. PCA would be much more suitable. You may need some derivation rules for Populating Profit centers, but it would be much more easier than using Business area and reconciling FI-CO on monthly basis.
8. The main difference between profit centers and business areas is that profit centers are used for internal management whereas business areas are geared more towards external purposes.
9. Business area satisfies accounting purpose while Profit Center satisfies CO purpose.
10. Business area was used as function oriented (e.g. SALES, ACCOUNTING etc)
as per old school where we used to separate B/S as per functionality. But Profit Center is more related with group of products or COS (COGS) view.
SKS

Assign Business Area to cost center

HI Guru's
i would like to assign the business area to existing cost center, which is having some posted entries.
But system throws the below error message
"For change Business area is not possible (transaction data already exists)"
Pls help me
Rgds,

Hi,
You cannot change buisness area for a cost as this field is for each fiscal year. For example, you can change the field content for a new fiscal year by changing the validity period. Mean splitting the validity period provided there is no transaction data. The data in this field is always time-based.
This is to for the consistency of data in SAP.
Please also check out the following link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/08/51457143b511d182b30000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
However, I think you can use substitution rule to subtitute business area in document level for cost center. I am not sure whether this will work.
Hope this helps.
Please assign points as a way to say thanks.
Regards,

What is the impact of business area and cost center in the sales document

Hi all
I have small doubt regarding what is the impact of bussiness area and cost center in the sales document... what is the uses of these (bussiness area, cost center) is help full for sd module
can any one reply plz....
Thanking you

Hi,
Business Area determines where the revenue should be allocated when you sell a material or a service.
For eg: If your customer is in say Mumbai and he is ordering for a service in Delhi (say DIAL - Delhi International Airport Limited) then based on the terminology.
Your customer would belong to B Basis Business Area - WHERE THE REVENUE IS COMING FROM or WHERE YOUR CUSTOMER BELONGS TO (SALES OFFICE).
Whereas your DIAL sales will belong to A Basis Business Area - WHERE THE REVENUE IS GOING TO.
Cost Center would determine where your allocate your cost to.
Say Rounding Off can be used as a cost element, because some sort of revenue is lost when figures are roudned off..
Hope it clarifies your doubt.
Reward points if satisfactory
Regards
Ravi.D.Mansharamani

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