Use which color profile when ordering iPhoto prints?

Hello,
I've got a bunch of photos I want to order thru the iPhoto service. Many of the photos have an embedded sRGB (Nikon mode Ia) color profile. Should I convert / save the photos with just an RGB profile or will sRGB work OK? These prints will be 8x10.
Thanks!

How do you determine whether a profile has been embedded in your images?
Unless you manually edit iPhoto's preferences it won't embed any profile upon import. On the other hand Image Capture does embed a profile.
Some cameras only reference a generic profile in the images' EXIF data (instead of embedding one) but that won't be honoured by iPhoto. Even if your images had a profile embedded it will have been discarded by editing them in iPhoto - something to watch out for.
As far as ordering prints goes it's impossible to predict the outcome.
Cheers Martin

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borisbastoss wrote:
But what color profile do i assign when i export to PDF, to send off for printing? What is important to take into account regarding the commercial printer?
Just to be clear, in a properly color managed workflow, you do not assign at the PDF export stage. You would either preserve all profiles, or convert to a destination profile. The term assign would lead some to believe there is false profiling going on but I realize that is not what you meant.
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I am not familiar with the applications you have mentioned. Adobe apps have a way of previewing destination color while still in the source space. It is called Proof Setup. You may or may not posses a tool like this. If you do you may be able to soft proof before PDF creation.
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borisbastoss wrote:
My sole objective however is to see on my screen as exactly possible as what comes out of the printer on the other side of town.
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