Using 1080i footage in a 720p timeline?

Just curious if anyone out there has used some 1080i footage in a 720p timeline. Does the 1080i stuff convert to 720p very well? Does it look like progressive video? I'm asking because my main camera is the JVC HD100 (720p native) and I want to know if I can match footage from the Sony Z1U (1080i) in a 720p timeline.

Unfortunately, just letting FCP do this will produce pretty unacceptable results, it just drops frames and does not deinterlace.
Shake will do this very nicely, and its recent big price drop makes it an attractive tool to have around. Alternatively, you could use a free utility called MPEG Streamclip from Squared5 (http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html). Among many other conversion tasks, I've used it's downrezing and deinterlacing capabilities to do exactly what you want (Z1U footage to 720p) and it does a very good job.

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Thanks!
Kyle

"Horrible" is relative, a bit meaningless.
Since we don't know how much you understand about what you're doing, or what you expect as far as quality, or where you are viewing your results, try not to take this personally.
You are throwing away a full 35% of your pixels so, yes, it's going to look a bit soft. Additionally, you are squooshing all of those lost pixels into new mooshy pixels.
The only way to maintain a pixel-to-pixel relationship is not to scale you footage but to crop it. Anything else compromises the image quality because of the processing. You must be viewing your rendered output on a full resolution monitor suitable to the task before deciding your scaling or processing operations are really "horrible" or they just appear that way as an artifact of the presentation.
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The 1080i footage was captured with AIC and the 720p with prorez 422. Can anyone tell me the best sequence settings for highest quality output (through DVI port at theatre) and for reduced rendering times?
Should the clips from one or the other be rendered and/or exported with certain sequence settings to better match? Any significant loss with this?
I also have to make SD dvds, but that's not a pressing concern.
The 1080i (Sony V1u) footage could be recaptured, but only if a significant quality improvement could be made another way. The camera was rented.
I've spent hours researching this with little results. To say I would appreciate any help would be a tremendous understatement!

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What's the best choice to edit a movie comprised of clips shot in 720p30 and clips shot in 1080i60? "Upscale and interlace" the 720p footage or "downscale and deinterlace" the 1080i footage?
Using easy setup, one has the choice to create either a 720p or a 1080i project, and when adding a clip to a sequence in this project, the clip is automatically converted to the project's format. Therefore, this is something that needs to be decided ahead of time. Or is it possible to change the project's settings after attempting to export the sequence if the result is disappoining?

All right, but assuming that I have the choice of output format (and I do), what is most likely yo result in the best overall result? Interpolating (720p output) or extrapolating (1080i)? Intuitively, I would think that interpolating is most likely to result in less artifacts than extrapolating. So on this measure, a 720p output of a mixture of 720p and 1080i footage would be more recommendable than a 1080i output.
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IF you are working with FCP 7.0.3 (the last version) then you use Log and Transfer to ingest your footage from that camera, and Log and Transfer will convert the AVCHD camera files to ProRes.
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Hi All,
Just wondering. I have somne 1080i and also, 1080-24P footage I'd like to put on one HD/BluRay Disc as a 24P (or simply progressive) project. Is it possible to take my 1080i footage, and somehow, make it into Progressive (frame by frame) footage? Or would this simply be a bad idea and be of horrible quality when compared to real (recorded as) 24P source footage?

RedTruck and Hanumang,
Thanks! Honestly, here is why I asked.. I have 2 projects, off YES - the HV20. Hate it or love it - this Cam is awesome for the $1,000 I spent. I do hate the aggravation of the 'not so 24P' aspect of it - BUT, since performing the reverse Telecine in Compressor - I'm REAAALLLY Happy. (that is, on the one reel I have shot - in 24 Cinema mode, not the 1080i reel in question and the subj. of this post) The footage (the 24P footage that was put thru reverse telecine) is pristine. It looks much better then my friend's footage, off his $3500 Sony 3 CCD HD Cam - for whatever the reason..
At any rate, I first shot a 1080i reel. Then switched over to the 24 Cinema Mode Setting, which is still saved to tape as 'interlaced', so I hear. This is why I brought it into FCP as 1080i - sent to Compressor and made it to 24p using reverse Telecine. I set frame rate to 23.976 like the Apple Article Stated to do - on Apple Support website. I then saved the clips and started a NEW Project in FCP - with easy set up for 1080P/Basic Firewire. I placed clips in Timeline and all duplicate frames were gone. I scanned thru, one clear frame at a time, and it was mint. So then, I wanted the original 1080i reel to be part of "same final video" - Hence This Post!
So yea, I can 'play around' with your suggestions.. However, it does seem like the 1080i reel, may be looking degraded from what you've both written! LoL. UGH.
So, My FINAL question?: How about, simply adding any 1080i material to this 1080/24P project as is, leaving it interlaced. Can't FCP do this? Like, I read it can handle any format in same project? But, if I want the final output to be an HD DVD - some footage would be proper, pristine, 24P/24 FPS - and some 1080i. I'm not sure if the DVD would look and play back - with no detrimental side effect? (on a set top layer)

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Hello gurus!
I will be editing a commercial with the latest FCP installed on my laptop. The commercial will be shot entirely on a Phantom Camera (1920x1080 HD). I will export the Phantom footage to TGA or Tiff sequences and then import them into FCP. The finished product will be delivered in PAL format.
I guess what we want to do is edit the HD footage in a Pal timeline but have the full 1920x1080 resolution available so as to perform various zooms on the HD footage and still retain PAL quality. The zooms will not be exceeding PAL limit i.e we will not zoom in the HD footage past 720x576 pixels.
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Tolis

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like you all said, it is as simple as importing HD footage and editing them on a SD timeline. Here's what i did:
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This is what i wanted to do.
I also did a few tests and i am posting the questions that came up in the process.
When i did the test i realized that whichever workflow we devised, i would have to convert my image sequences to video before bringing them into Final Cut!
Any other way to create video files out of image sequences besides QuickTime Pro or Mpeg Streamclip?
Is the HQ ProRes codec or any other ProRes Codec good enough to retain all color space so as if i convert all my Tiff Sequences to it i can use as my new source for online?
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Another thing i tried is the Auto Conform option for new sequences but it appears to not work when i drop a tiff file into the sequence. I guess FCP does not consider this video to conform the sequence to.
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Premiere Pro CS 6 will not capture 1440 x 1080i footage through firewire.

Every time and without exception, whenever I attempt to capture 1440 x 1080i footage from a Sony camera, the application will crash and close.
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under "Options" I choose a standard
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ShockWave101010 wrote:
Thank you Bill, the external HD is connected through high speed usb.
HDV through firewire is not supported. Hard to believe but the response came from Adobe.
Ashamed because I love their products. Oh well.
Judging by the approximate release date of that Radeon HD 6770M (mid-2011) that best USB speed that you have is USB 2. That is not adequate speed wise for any video editing.
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Capture DV or HDV video
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this is a follow up to a 16:9 import issue I had previously.
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