1080i footage to 24P?

Hi All,
Just wondering. I have somne 1080i and also, 1080-24P footage I'd like to put on one HD/BluRay Disc as a 24P (or simply progressive) project. Is it possible to take my 1080i footage, and somehow, make it into Progressive (frame by frame) footage? Or would this simply be a bad idea and be of horrible quality when compared to real (recorded as) 24P source footage?

RedTruck and Hanumang,
Thanks! Honestly, here is why I asked.. I have 2 projects, off YES - the HV20. Hate it or love it - this Cam is awesome for the $1,000 I spent. I do hate the aggravation of the 'not so 24P' aspect of it - BUT, since performing the reverse Telecine in Compressor - I'm REAAALLLY Happy. (that is, on the one reel I have shot - in 24 Cinema mode, not the 1080i reel in question and the subj. of this post) The footage (the 24P footage that was put thru reverse telecine) is pristine. It looks much better then my friend's footage, off his $3500 Sony 3 CCD HD Cam - for whatever the reason..
At any rate, I first shot a 1080i reel. Then switched over to the 24 Cinema Mode Setting, which is still saved to tape as 'interlaced', so I hear. This is why I brought it into FCP as 1080i - sent to Compressor and made it to 24p using reverse Telecine. I set frame rate to 23.976 like the Apple Article Stated to do - on Apple Support website. I then saved the clips and started a NEW Project in FCP - with easy set up for 1080P/Basic Firewire. I placed clips in Timeline and all duplicate frames were gone. I scanned thru, one clear frame at a time, and it was mint. So then, I wanted the original 1080i reel to be part of "same final video" - Hence This Post!
So yea, I can 'play around' with your suggestions.. However, it does seem like the 1080i reel, may be looking degraded from what you've both written! LoL. UGH.
So, My FINAL question?: How about, simply adding any 1080i material to this 1080/24P project as is, leaving it interlaced. Can't FCP do this? Like, I read it can handle any format in same project? But, if I want the final output to be an HD DVD - some footage would be proper, pristine, 24P/24 FPS - and some 1080i. I'm not sure if the DVD would look and play back - with no detrimental side effect? (on a set top layer)

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Please understand that i am a rookie.
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Maybe this will help lead you in the right direction.
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Ashamed because I love their products. Oh well.
Judging by the approximate release date of that Radeon HD 6770M (mid-2011) that best USB speed that you have is USB 2. That is not adequate speed wise for any video editing.
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Hi,
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