Using BPM in full synchronous scenario

Hi PI Experts,
I'm trying to use a single BPM in a "full synchronous scenario" like this :
-Portal EP call webservice -> SAP PI. This one then execute a BPM with 2 successives steps/calls of Bapis :
    -first Bapi call on Backend ECC
    -second Bapi call on Backend SRM
    -...and then return response message to EP caller
When designing BPM, i can only create variables in container using "Abstract Asynchronous interface"'
=> I don't understand how to design the response message from BPM to EP caller....
Thanks a lot for your help
Best regards
Etienne

Hi,
use Sync/Async bridge in your BPM.
check this blog: https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/1403 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
Also check this section from help.sap.com: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/65d4dab39b0398e10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm
Primary porpose of the bridge is to enable communication between a Synchronously calling system and an Asynchronous system....can also use for Sync <--> Sync communication.
Your BPM design will be:
Receive(Open S/A bridge) --> Send(Sync..ECC) >Send(Sync..SRM)> Transformation --> Send(EP...close bridge)
I mentioned transformation because i suppose that you will get response from both ECC and SRM and hence you will need to map it to a single message structure that you wil send to EP....2:1 Mapping required then..
When designing BPM, i can only create variables in container using "Abstract Asynchronous interface"'
Not only Asynchronous but also Synchronous message interfaces can be used....the only condition is that each and every MI has to be Abstract
Regards,
Abhishek.

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>
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>
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/08/16163ff8519a06e10000000a114084/content.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/11/13283fd0ca8443e10000000a114084/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ca/7c5c41fe06cf1ee10000000a155106/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/e8/8e2d4233c8db2ce10000000a1550b0/content.htm
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/people/krishna.moorthyp/blog/2005/06/09/walkthrough-with-bpm - Walk through BPM
/people/siva.maranani/blog/2005/05/22/schedule-your-bpm - Schedule BPM
/people/sriram.vasudevan3/blog/2005/01/11/demonstrating-use-of-synchronous-asynchronous-bridge-to-integrate-synchronous-and-asynchronous-systems-using-ccbpm-in-sap-xi - Use of Synch - Asynch bridge in BPM
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