Using comma (,) as a decimal separator

I know this isn't the right place to ask, but I cant get excel to use comma as a decimal separator.
All is set up right in system preferences and I still cant get it to work in excel.
So Im asking if any one know how to make the comma to be used for the decimal numbers and dot for thousands.
Or if any one can explain this to me, or better do it for me.
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050926170928881
Many thanks

Hi, Sven.
You might want to search or post on the Excel group you can find on the Microsoft Mac Support - Newsgroups page. These are Google Groups with active participation from MS product users, including a variety of expert users.
I don't mean to send you somewhere else, but I've found numerous answers there for folks with questions related to MS products. Accordingly, it has often proved to be the first, best place to look for answers to questions such as you are asking.
When you post your question there, be sure to state the version of Excel you are using.
Good luck!
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Project in dutch language, but use a point as decimal separator (not comma)

I am working with Haley v9.4.1.71.
I am preparing a demo for coming wednesday in which I want Haleys to work together with Siebel. I have now ran in to a problem for which I can’t find the solution. I have made the rules in the Dutch language wich all works fine. As it seems it also uses the dutch format for numbers, this means that the decimal separator is a comma instead of a point. Siebel however, requires the decimal separator to be a (point).
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How can I keep the dutch language, but use the point as a decimal separator (instead of the comma).
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I hope you can help me solve this issue.
Sake Kampen

Thank you for the reply.
The problem to upgrading to v10 is that we make use of a OPA <-> Siebel integration developed by the local Dutch Oracle pre-sales team. And I don't know if we can replicate what Oracle has done for us if we upgrade.
But the problem I'm having doesnt lie with the connection but with OPA itself, in OPA the decimal separator is a comma where I want it to be a point. This problem only exists when I create a Dutch project, when I create an English project (on the same windows environment with the same regional settings) the decimal separator is a point.
I have advanced a little bit, but I’m not quite there yet.
Haleys seems to use the Regional settings of Windows.
The regional settings of my Windows-installation was English, so I temporarily went to Dutch to see what the settings were there. Ofcourse the numberformatting was in the dutch way with a comma as the decimal separator. So I changed this to a point and clicked ‘Apply’. Then I changed the language back to English and clicked ‘Apply’.
In Haleys the same error persisted.
So I went back to the regional settings of windows, and there I went back to dutch (English was still selected) and saw to my surprise that the ‘corrected’ decimal separator for dutch was set back to its default.
So I changed it again to a point and now kept the dutch regional setting, and tested Haleys again. The behaviour of Haleys then changed. But surprisingly the decimal signs are now deleted.
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a value derived from a table in excel is transformed as follows
in Excel: 28.5 ==> in Haleys: 285
Provided by user in Haleys: 543.1234 ==> shown in Haleys summary screen 5.431.234
I can provide decimal numbers and they seem to be accepted, but if I show them in the summary screen (using the%%) I see that every number is rounded to a whole one in the way described above.
Are you certain this is a known issue that has been adressed in Haleys 10?

Decimal Separator in SELECT Clause

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2 from v$nls_parameters
3 where parameter = 'NLS_NUMERIC_CHARACTERS';
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Hi,Néstor,
user594312 wrote:
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Think how confusing it would be if it did apply to SQL code! For example:
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I'm consulting a database which use comma "," as a decimal separator for numbers. I would like to make a select which takes those numbers using point "." as a decimal separator.
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http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/apex/f?p=100:11:0::::P11_QUESTION_ID:1224836384599#tom38829286554804
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Why is it such a pain to use java in a country that uses commas as decimal?

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Good old Cobol has the "DECIMAL-POINT IS COMMA" clause... And isn't it great? :)
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Have you tried the NumberFormat.parse? I will now.
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Change of decimal separator

Is it possible to change the decimal separator for importing data?
I have data with , as separator can I change the default Point to comma?
Thanks for your interest
Thomas Pfeiffer
Message Edited by Thomasrp on 02-16-2006 10:10 AM
Solved!
Go to Solution.

I really don't understand your problem, because normally DIAdem can import both types of decimal separators... If you use the ASCII Import the important is that you use the proper configuration for your file type… and if this file uses the comma as a decimal separator, the delimiter character between data will not be a comma… DIAdem should import the data with no problem, but on DIAdem you will see always the "." (dot)
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Post Author: Jóhan E. M. J. Sivertsen
CA Forum: General
I want to use comma as decimal separator in Crystal Reports Server XI.
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ASCII Export with CSV Headers.zip ‏60 KB

Oracle Reports has comma as decimal separator in XML output

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Illustrator Graphs; Add totals to a column design; Need , (comma) as decimal separator

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I am editing a German Annual Report.
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Use Locale.FRENCH with "." decimal separator instead of ","

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>
DecimalFormatSymbols.getInstance().setDecimalSeparator
//display a JSpinner with Locale.FRENCH we have the
"," separator it's not ok so previous line don't
work
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I'm using a VI to copy a LabVIEW table to Excel
http://forums.ni.com/ni/attachments/ni/170/125802/1/Write_Table_and_Chart_to_XL.llb
My system uses the comma as a standard decimal separator. Despite changing the LabVIEW settings the table I generate uses a decimal point. When I copy the data values smaller than one are copied correctly, but values > 1 are recognized as the value times a million.
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Solved!
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I ran your VI and everything looks fine for me!!
I get the attached table when I ran the code.
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Message Edited by Vsh on 11-09-2009 02:55 AM
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Hi Pls Use This
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