Using Lightroom in a group/corporate environment

I've been excited in hopes that Lightroom would solve my department's problems with photo organization, but I didn't initially realize that it was not at all designed with multiple users in mind. So here are my questions:
- Has anybody successfully set up or been using LR in a group environment? (Or unsuccesfully?) What have you tried that worked or didn't work?
- Our photos are all stored on a shared network drive. My first thought was that if one person got all of the keywords, etc. set up for the photos we have, that information could be exported and then imported on everyone else's LR. I'm now not sure that's possible, but I'm still a bit confused by what's stored within the photo file and what's written to the database.
- I had thought that at the very least, everyone could set up their own keywords and use Lightroom independently. But since we're all accessing the same set of photos, we're going to get in trouble there, aren't we?
Suggestions? I've been trying to read some of the LR FAQs and sites, but I haven't had a lot of luck on this topic.

Jay is right, of course. The problem is that even if you use it independently (by each user NOT writing to XMP)how do you then ever update the files themselves on the common network drive? Or, maybe that is not an issue with the way you work.
On the other hand, the keywording is not the real problem--obviously if you are not all following the same keywording convention, then some images may have a lot of keywords associated with them, but that is livable in some senses. But, who does the image developing work--if several people are doing that and you are writing to XMP, then that might produce a lot of problems.
I, of course, do not know your specific workflow, so these are simply speculations, but at the very least if you do not use LR independently on each machine, then you have a workflow assignment and organization challenge.

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