Using My "Other" Internal Hard Drive

Hi.
I recently installed a WD 250 GB internal hard drive. I am going to purchase Logic and I didn't have enough room for the required 60 GB of samples.
My hope is to use this new hard drive like I do my original hard drive:
Access my Applications Folder, Document Folder, etc.
As of right now it only acting like a storage bin.
So my questions is: How do I make my 2nd hard drive feature the same things as my original hard drive?
Thanks!

Thanks Thomas.
Question:
I do a lot of audio composition work. I am going to buy Logic Pro but first I needed to add this additional HD b/c Logic is about 60Gigs worth of files.
So...
Would it be possible to just create aliases of the audio programs/files I already use and when I download Logic, simply download it and all its files to my new, bigger hard drive?
In other words, I don't think I need to copy everything from my original hard drive, just the mandatory applications, etc..
Curios to hear your thoughts on this...
Thanks so much.

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Hi
I recently bought a new 500GB internal hard drive, on which I have copied (not migrated) my files and applications to. I have used Time Machine on the old 120GB drive with a 1TB external hard drive. I have this drive partitioned such that only 320GB was dedicated to Time Machine and because I spent the last 6 months downloading files (mainly itunes music) onto my old internal drive, and copying it onto another part of the partition on the 1TB external, then updating Time Machine, I only have 135GB left in the Time Machine part of the partition.
I have not yet backed up my new internal onto Time Machine as I am worried about space.
I tried changing the sizes of the partitions in disk utility so I could put more space in Time Machine (I have 3 other partitions) by dragging the sizes of the other partitions to make them smaller. I received the error message "file system or repair failed."
Is there a way to make more space in the Time Machine partition?
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okstevep wrote:
Hi
I recently bought a new 500GB internal hard drive, on which I have copied (not migrated) my files and applications to. I have used Time Machine on the old 120GB drive with a 1TB external hard drive. I have this drive partitioned such that only 320GB was dedicated to Time Machine and because I spent the last 6 months downloading files (mainly itunes music) onto my old internal drive, and copying it onto another part of the partition on the 1TB external, then updating Time Machine
Do you mean you copied files into the TM partition, or a different partition on the same disk as your TM backups?
I mean I copied the files from my old internal drive onto my new drive - I haven't done anything with Time Machine yet.
I only have 135GB left in the Time Machine part of the partition.
How much of the 320 gb is used by TM backups and how much by the other files?
As far as I know all of the used space is TM backups, so 185 GB
Will a new back-up add all the files I have copied for a second time (they are now on different locations on the hard disk)?
Yes.
Can I copy the folders of Time Machine back ups to another partition to free up space in order to use Time Machine from scratch with the new internal drive?
As khassani noted, you can't just copy them. SuperDuper! will do it, but so will the Restore tab of Disk Utility. But you must copy an entire partition to another entire partition, and select Erase Destination.
Roughly how much data have you put on the new drive?
How old is the oldest backup in TM?
I have put 140 GB on the new drive so far (60GB from the old drive, 45GB with files for Logic Studio, which I would be happy not to back up, and the rest with system files, library files, other new files and applications)
The oldest back up is October '08. I have been backing up manually about once a week if that makes a difference.
You may be able to let TM back-up the new drive, then manually delete the old backups of the items you moved, via the TM interface. See item 12 of the Frequently Asked Questions post at the top of this forum.
Thanks very much for all of your help. Please let me know if you can offer further advice based on my extra information here.

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