Value dated cr memo

Hello SDN!
Can i confirm with you the following is correct or not:
1. Is it right to say that if Value Dated CR memo field is not selected in cr
memo billing type, if cr memo billing date is after the posting period of the
baseline date for payment of the reference bill doc, FI would not be able to reconcile ?
2. does the Negative Posting field in billing type means that, normally, credit
memo and cancellations are posted on the opposite side of the T-account but with
this field, customers can post to the same side of the account with the posted value
negated so that the total is still zero balance and this is for display purpose only as the value of the postings are unaffected?
Question :
1. can there be a situation where cr memo billing date is earlier than the
reference billing doc eg F2 bill doc type? My understanding is a bill must exist first before a cr memo can be related to it.
regards
Tom

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Value Dated Credit Memo

Hi,
Can anybody explain me the concept of value dated credit memo with example as I am not able to find out its example.....can anybody explain me with example

as I am not able to find out
Surprising !!!!!!!!
Below is the explanation given by SAP
Credit memos that do not have a value date will be immediately due for payment on the billing date. This means that the receivables and payables will not be reconciled.
When maintaining the billing types, you can choose the function u2018set value date for credit memosu2019.
If this function has been selected in the billing type, the reference billing date has not been cleared, and the baseline date for payment in the base billing document is after the billing date in the credit memo, then the field:
- VALDT (fixed value date) is fillied with the baseline date for payment from the base billing document, and the field
- REBZG (document number) is filled with the FI document number
If the base billing document has been reconciled and/or the baseline payment date is before the billing date in the credit memo, then the FI document number is copied into the REBZG field.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

Value dated credit memo field

Hello Gurus,
there is a paragraph following, please tell me what does it mean? what is "reconcile" and "concile"?
" If the Value dated credit memo field is set in the billing type, then the referenced billing document is
not reconciled if the baseline payment date for the originating billing document comes after the
billing date in the credit memo: then the field VALDT (value date) in the credit memo request is
filled with the baseline payment date from the originating billing document."
thanks very much!

hi friend ,,
you can use this when you are giving the goods to the customer which is based on some agreement .
eg. you will bill the customer @10% no matter what is the present trend in the market .
hence the bill will be calculated at 10% .
these condition totally depends upon companies need and you can configure them according to you need .
reward if it helps
regards
Aditya.

Net value of Credit memo must not increase, but accountingdoc must generate

HI All
This is my sales- return process
Sales order has been created for
Material : Ax001:   10 Qty : Total price : 100$   Per unit = 10$
Sales order has been created : for 10 units        (sales doc number:AAAAS)
Billing has been done : 10 units for the value 100$
Accounting documents posted : Credit :100$   Debit accout: 100$
Returns sales order:
This is done with reference to the sales order
Return Sales order has been created with reference to sales order : (sales doc number:AAAAS)
Qty :1 Value of the product =10$   Material: Ax001
A manual condition type is defined to reduce the value of the actual price .. The company is planning to give only 5$ for the return material
Manual condition has been included in the Return saels order Total net Value = 5$ qty = 1
Credit memo has been created : for 5$
Accounting doc: Credit account = 5$ debit account =5$
Issue: The account team wants one more account document to be created for the original value of the product i.e 10$
The net value in the billing document must not increase, but the account document must be created for the value=10$
This is for nullifying the original value of the product from the book of accounts
Solution tried : Manual condition for the original value =10$ keeping it as statically condition type : issue: account doc will not generate if it is statically . CND ref: 100% discount it did not work the net value in the order/billing is increasing
Please let me know how to generate the Accounting document with out increasing the net value.. Using standard SAP. we can create a routine and we can do this .. but we are looking for the Standard SAP solution if any,.....
Thanks for your help in Advance
Chandra

Hi Chandra,
In your scenario create new condition type and update that condition type with accruals at control data 2 section and create relevant access sequence and update the condition type in your return pricing procedure and create new account key one for regular posing and one for accruals and take help from FI /CO to create new two accounts one for regular updates and one for accruals posting ,
in your pricing procedure mark this condition as statistics relevant it will create automatically accountancy document for reference,
Try this and let me know if you have any questions.
Regards
Nishad

Change condition value in debit memo and credit memo

Hi Experts,
When I am trying to create Credit Memo/Debit memo I could able to change the condition value for which condition type the value is there in Sales Order, but where as for other condition types it is not changeable.
For example for Freight the Condition type is ZFRE, value is 100 rs in sales order 90000001.
If I create credit memo with reference to sales order I can able to change freight value from rs100 to rs 75.
But what to do If I do not maintain freight value initially in sales order and if I want to adjust freight value ZFRE as rs 60 in credit memo. Presently I could not able to enter values in C/D Memo.
Hope my question is clear to you all.
Thanks & Regards
Naresh

Hi Naresh
If I understand correctly, then you want to include the freight amount automatically in the Credit memo which was not featuring in the Credit memo request.
If it is so, then first see which is Pricing procedure working for your Credit memo Request.
In the Pricing Procedure, check the freight condition type (e,g. KF00).
See the what is Acees sequence assigned to it and in the Access sequence what are table assigned.
In condition type KF00, Access sequence assigned is KF00 and two condition tables "Incoterm" and "Incoterm Part1 + Part2" are assigned to it.
In the Access sequnce of your Freight condition type , add another/new condition table "350" (Sales organisation). This table is already available in standard system.
Select the new condition table row, and click on the "Field" in the dialog box till the technical names are opened up / shown inspite of warning.
Once the technical names of the fields are shown , you can see the green light there, then save it.
Now, create a condition record (VK11) for your Freight condition (e,g. KF00) by choosing the "Sales organisation" level from the key combination.
Then go to the Copy control (VTFA), find the combination "G2 from CR "> go to Item level > select item category G2N and go to details.
Here, you change the "Pricing type" value to " H " and save it.
Now, when you will create a Credit memo with reference to the Credit memo request, the new Freight condition (KF00) will come into effect in the Credit memo, even if ,it was not there in the reference document.

Asset value for Credit memo

Hi Experts,
I'm new to this forum, Need some help on how the Ordinary depreciation calculated for credit memo.
It is Valuated Goods receipt, asset capitalized before the IR. However, there was a difference in value between GR/IR and the different value automatically got adjusted in APC transaction and also credit memo passed for the difference.
My question here is credit memo value is 2.46 but corresponding depreciation value is 22.14.
Note: It's a Low value asset, useful life is 1 Month. Entire depreciation already posted for GR Value which means more than APC value.
GR value           : 1192.20 -----
APC value         : 1189.74------
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Hi Mukthar,
Thanks for your reply.
However, the credit memo value is only 2.46 USD, depreciation getting reversed each month 2.46 USD and total depreciation reversal value is 22.14 (USD).
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Value Based Credit memo

Hi Experts,
i want to increase the invoice value after some days,
which is already partially paid, and also decrease the amount because my vendor intially deliver the material for apporximate amount for our urgent requirement then he will send the revised bill laterly. but it will also affect the tax and all how to handle the situation
please guide me
Regrads
sundar
Edited by: Philip Eller on May 13, 2008 8:56 AM
Edited by: Philip Eller on May 27, 2008 11:39 AM*

Hi Sundar,
The invoice cannot be edited once it is added.
If you always need to update an invoice, please check if the following is feasible.
1, Create a draft invoice with the apporximate amount first.
2, Create payment on account (note based on any invoice) with partial amount
3, update the draft invoice and add it when you get revised bill from your vendor
4, create a payment with remaing amount due
5, reconcile the invoice with the two payment created in step 2 and 4.
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Ivy Zhang
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Delete credit memo work item created in VA01 when the user change value

Hi,
In T.code VA01 Credit memo request is creating, this document will automatically create work item. Based on Net value in credit memo request, the work item should go for 5 levels of approval. After 1st person is approved, the workflow initiator realized that the net value in created Credit Memo request is wrong; he is going to VA02 and correcting the net value. Again we have to create new work item for this and delete the already created work item. Client has clearly mentioned when ever there is change in 5 critical fields in VA02 then only create fresh work item otherwise no need to create SECOND TIME work item. Net value is one of the critical field in the list.
How to track already created credit memo request and how to delete the previously created work item. What is the feasibility of this requirement and how to handle this situation?
Regards
Vijay

Hi,
Just put a Fork and put 1 out of 2 outcomes and in the first alternative, you put your witem that goes to user B. In the 2nd alternative, put a Wait for event "CHANGED". And after this, put a process control step with "Set workitems to Obsolete" or "Cancel workflow" etc., depending on your requirement.
Pl note that this will only take out old witems, but you need to send a new witem for which you need to trigger another instance of the workflow as well. pl put CHANGED event also as one of the triggering events and use condition editor to restrict the fields that triggers the workflow.
Also, look into the IMG config of the following path. This might be a fitting solution.
In SPRO, go to Financial Accounting (New)---> Financial Accounting Global settings(New) -
>Tools --->Workflow ---> Workflow for Document Parking -->Reset Release Approvals(Customers).
Here, you can list down the fields, the workflow should restart. But, then you need to give the workflow details etc., in the relevant config settings.
We have used this in restarting workflows for General Ledger(GL) documents' workflow when some important fields are changed.
For this config settings, look into the following help link.
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/01/a9cdd8455711d182b40000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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MIGO values when invoices/credit memos have already been posted

Hi everyone,
We are facing an issue with the values the system is calculating when doing the GR (and/or GR reversals) once invoices/credit memos have already been posted regarding the PO (Non Stock POs = non valuated).
When a goods receipt is posted through MIGO (mov. type 101) it seems that the system is considering only the invoices values but we do not really understand how it is calculated and why it is not considering the total amount of invoices and credit memos.
In fact when a GR reversal is done (mov. type 102) the system seems to be considering the total amount of invoices and credit memos posted against the purchase order.
Please find below an example with the invoices and GR values (all invoices were posted before the GRs)
GR     5000077059     1     18.12.2008     EA     -1     -3300,00GBP
GR     5000076426     1     17.12.2008     EA     1     930,50GBP
Tr./ev. Goods receipt                                    EA     1     -2369,50GBP
IR-L     5105052971     1     17.11.2008     EA     -1     -835,00GBP
IR-L     5105052970     1     17.11.2008     EA     -1     -50,00GBP
IR-L     5105052959     1     17.11.2008     EA     -1     -885,00GBP
IR-L     5105052958     1     17.11.2008     EA     1     885,00GBP
IR-L     5105052957     1     17.11.2008     EA     1     885,00GBP
IR-L     5105052428     1     13.11.2008     EA     -1     -105,00GBP
IR-L     5105052427     r4tf cv     13.11.2008     EA     -1     -640,00GBP
IR-L     5105052426     1     13.11.2008     EA     -1     -835,00GBP
IR-L     5105052425     1     13.11.2008     EA     1     640,00GBP
IR-L     5105052424     1     13.11.2008     EA     1     835,00GBP
IR-L     5105051741     1     11.11.2008     EA     1     60,00GBP
IR-L     5105051740     1     11.11.2008     EA     1     3240,00GBP
IR-L     5105045571     1     16.10.2008     EA     1     105,00GBP
Tr./ev. Invoice receipt                                    EA     1     3300,00GBP
According to my assumption, in order to calculate the GR value it looks like the system is considering the average for the 5 first invoices and then the average for the 2 next invoices, and making the average of both of them. But if I post another invoice it does not seem to follow this rule.
I would appreciate any explanation on how the system calculates the GR values and how we would be able to correct the GR value.
Thanks a lot. Best regards

Hi
I hope there is no GR based IV tick in PO, only GR is ticked (PO based IV)
In that case
IR-L 5105045571 1 16.10.2008 EA 1 105,00GBP
IR-L 5105051740 1 11.11.2008 EA 1 3240,00GBP
IR-L 5105051741 1 11.11.2008 EA 1 60,00GBP
IR-L 5105052424 1 13.11.2008 EA 1 835,00GBP
IR-L 5105052425 1 13.11.2008 EA 1 640,00GBP
Net invoiced value is 4880 GBP (taking out 00) for 5 quantity
in case of PO based IV, if IV is done first and then GR, GR assumes the value of invoice but not the PO - in that case for above IV, 1 quantity of IV referes to 976GBP debit
this value will be base GR/IR value for credit memos
IR-L 5105052426 1 13.11.2008 EA -1 -835,00GBP
IR-L 5105052427 r4tf cv 13.11.2008 EA -1 -640,00GBP
IR-L 5105052428 1 13.11.2008 EA -1 -105,00GBP
there are 3 credit memos - for which GR/IR credit will be equal to that of original GR/IR debit value - that is 976
*so net credit on GR/IR because of credit memos will be (976976976) = 2928GBP for 3 quantity *
IR-L 5105052958 1 17.11.2008 EA 1 885,00GBP
IR-L 5105052957 1 17.11.2008 EA 1 885,00GBP
Then there are two invoices of values 885 GBP each - so total debit will be 1770 GBP
so total GR/IR debit will be ( (4880/5) -(2928/3) + (1770/2) ) = 930.5 (debit)*
This value is the base GR/IR for credit memos
net GR/IR debit will be 930.5 - this is the base for GR - because in GR - entry on GR/IR will be credit
*So if you make GR - then GRed value will be 930.5*
IR-L 5105052971 1 17.11.2008 EA -1 -835,00GBP
IR-L 5105052970 1 17.11.2008 EA -1 -50,00GBP
IR-L 5105052959 1 17.11.2008 EA -1 -885,00GBP
*Now ordered will be XXX
Delivered will be 930.5
Invoiced will be 3300*
IF you reverse GR now it will assume the value of invoice: then reversal will show 3300 debit on GR/IR
That is what in your PO history now
These will happen because of PO based IV - for which there will be GR indicator will be ticked.
Thanks
Edited by: Praveen Raghavendra on Dec 24, 2008 9:17 AM

Credit memo value , Debit Memo Value Based

Hi All,
This is chandra. How to map credit memo value and debit memo value in SAP. How to map in pricing procedure.What is the condition types for credit memo and debit memo. How to clear excise. plz help me.
Thanks and regards
Chandra

Check with transaction code 'MCVV' as to which all info-structures are being updated.
Check the stats groups are correctly assigned to the sales document, header, item and the billing document is Relevant to Statistics
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Memo value in Asset

In OAYI, I set 1usd(Set memo value per company code/depreciation area)
and In asset master, i set 0 usd(additional specifications in depreciation area tab)
So, this asset's memo value(or scrap value) is 1 usd or 0 usd ??
what's is right?
I guess 0 usd is right, but it's memo is 1 usd(in AW01N).
my mistake??

Hi ,
The purpose of a memo value is different from that of a scrap value.
Memo Value - The memo value is the residual value which u want to reflect in the balance sheet. Usually you do not need to manage memo values, since Asset Accounting (FI-AA) always manages gross values. This means it records both the acquisition value and accumulated depreciation, not just the net book value of assets. In this way, the system guarantees that even fully depreciated fixed assets appear in all legally required reports, even if they have a net book value of zero.
Scrap Value - It may sometimes be necessary to depreciate assets not to net book value zero, but only up to a scrap value or cutoff value. Therefore, the system enables you to set up a time-dependent scrap value for assets per depreciation area. There are two ways of specifying the scrap value:
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Invoice & credit memo

hi all,
i understand from forum that :
Invoice / credit memo - GR/IR clearing account and vendor account
qty and value will give impact to GRC
Subsequent credit/debit - Stock account and vendor account
example of credit memo :
Credit memo is posted when there is u want to correct the invoice posted already for both qty and value.
For eg if vendor gives u invoice of 12 qty and value 120. but actualy he delivered only 10 qty of 100 rs. so in this case u post the credit memo with 2 qty and 20 rs so the total invoice u post becomes 10 qty and 100 rs.
above i clearly understand.
but when i check my system on miro posting and po history in me23n, is different case.
GR - qty 20080 value 3950
IR - qty 20080 value 3950
after vendor invoice is posted, there is a credit memo and invoice, both with reference to PO.
credit memo qty 20080 (same qty) value 1000
credit memo, the entry is dr vendor cr prd
invoice qty 20080 (same qty) value 1000
invoice, the entry is cr vendor dr prd.
1) may i know why the offsetting account is prd? when i see in miro, no GL tab but only has po reference tab.
2) where does the setting to ask system to use prd?
thanks

hi,
i can understand your reply.
but why the treatment is different from the general understanding below:
Invoice / credit memo - GR/IR clearing account and vendor account
Subsequent credit/debit - Stock account and vendor account
if
GR - qty 20080 value 3950
IR - qty 20080 value 3950
Kindly verify if below 4 points are correct.
after invoice posted, if i do credit memo reference to the same PO,
1) qty remained the same 20080 and value is less, say 1000, this 1000 is posted to credit prd?
2) if qty say, 1000 and value 1000 also, double entry will be hitting GRC?
after invoice posted, if i do invoice reference to the same PO,
3) qty remained the same 20080 and value is less, say 1000, this 1000 is posted to debit prd?
4) if qty say, 1000 and value 1000 also, double entry will be hitting GRC?
thanks

Rebate Credit memo

Hello All..
I have problem related to Rebate
Situation is as follows:
A rebate agreement is created for a year with 2% of accruals at first stage and a partial payment is done. After some time we realised that accruals should have been at the rate of 1% instead of 2% and we made changes in the condition records of rebate agreement. At the time of final settlement system has generated a credit memo request for negative value which is correct because there was partial payment based in 2% of accruals and agreement is now with 1% accrual.
Actually as there is -ve value, system should generate debit note instead of credit note?
Analysis upto now -
The Agreement type has been assigned with a Credit Memo Request as "Final settlement".. So the system will surely create the Credit memo request. BUT, when there is -ve net price, how can we shift to Debit Memo Request? If the ABAP development is required, where and how can we control this ?
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Kunal
The behaviour of the system is correct. Because the document is a credit memo, a positive value is considered to be a credit value. A positive value in Credit memo results in negative posting in accounting which means that it is credit. If the value in credit memo is negative, it actually means that it is a debit. So conceptually, you have to give customer a debit memo and in this case, there is a credit memo with a negative value. So conceptually you are correct.
Second point is that you can link an agreement only to a credit memo request /CM not to a debit memo.
Third point is the most important one. You should not change the percentage of the rebate agreement in between. If there is a change, you only have to close that agreement without settling. Create a new rebate agreement with past validity from date. And you have to reorganise the rebate index to consider the documents created in the past for this agreement. I think VBOF will help you on this.
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The purpose of the above requirement is to find the sum off total invoice Value in one column. Presently all invoice values and debit memo values it getting captured in Sales Invoice sales Column, in the same way credit memo value should also be captured on the same.
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You need to create you SIS Formula with an abaper:
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Invoice correction request -- Debit Memo

Hi,
I am able to create the Debit memo with respective RK(invoice correction request).
But the value in debit memo billing document is negative. So, accounting entry is going with negative value.
Can any body suggeest me whether it is correct process or i need to any settings.
Regar

In invoice correction request doc type is RK and
there will be two line items in Sales order
and 1st line item is the invoiced item and
2nd line item is what you need to enter with material and the quantity
now, the difference between the both will be paid to the customer in Credit memo
and in debit memo customer will pay to the company.
rule 1: you should make sure that the "reference mandatory" field should be
set to Invoice.
hope this will clarify you,
Regards,
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