Warning for Ivy Bridge

Warning: If you are considering a system based on the Ivy Bridge processor, be warned that the cooling paste Intel uses on the Ivy Bridge is no good, especially when overclocking. At stock speed the i7-3770K runs 11 degrees hotter than with CoolLaboratory Liquid Ultra cooling paste and at 4.6GHz even 20 degrees centigrade. However if you change the cooling paste, you also void the warranty.

Thanks, Harm and Jim, for the heads-up. The thermal problem is only going to get worse as newer CPUs come to market. We are now hitting the absolute maximum limits of current copper-interconnect technology used in all current CPUs. One of the problems is this: a combination of low power consumption and high relative performance at stock speeds usually leads to a CPU that does not handle overclocking well. Of course, we do not want to turn the clock back to the nasty days of CPUs performing molasses-slow (even when heavily overclocked) and consuming voracious (relatively speaking) amounts of power even at stock speed and at idle.

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I have read it is possible to run Ivy bridge processors on the P67 and Z68 chipsets....It only takes a bios update to be able to... When will MSI put out a Bios update for the P67A-G55

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=157236.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=158500.0

H8-1260t / IPISB-CH2 (Chicago) - Can HP add support for Ivy Bridge processors?

The latest UEFI BIOS upgrade for this Sandy Bridge H67-based motherboard is 7.12, dated 10/12/2011. The chipset has the capability to run Ivy Bridge CPUs (released Q4 2011) with a BIOS update to the microcode table (add the CPUID table entries for the 306xx CPUs to the 209xx Sandy Bridge CPUs already in the table, that's all!). I have checked the BIOS using AMI's MMtool, and BIOS ver 7.12 only supports Sandy Bridge CPUs. Can customers using the IPISB-CH2 motherboard, like me, get a BIOS update to support IvyBridge CPUs? -imsai8080 ref:http://www.asrock.com/news/events/2012ivy/ Please note that ASRock is the end-user sales department of Pegatron, which made the IPISB-CH2 motherboard for HP.H67DE3 looks very like the "Chicago" board. further ref:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155http://www.techpowerup.com/153756/ivy-bridge-quad-core-to-have-77w-tdp-intel-plans-for-lga1155-ivy-bridge-entry.html

Big_Dave wrote:
Hi, The HP H8-1260t PC was Introduced on 13 January 2012. HP generally will only post BIOS updates when needed within twelve months from the Introduction Date (1/13/2012). Some manufacturers have furnished BIOS updates to support IVY Bridge processors for retail motherboards but has has not posted an IVY Bridge BIOS update for the "Chicago" motherboard.Big_Dave wrote:
Hi, The HP H8-1260t PC was Introduced on 13 January 2012. HP generally will only post BIOS updates when needed within twelve months from the Introduction Date (1/13/2012). Some manufacturers have furnished BIOS updates to support IVY Bridge processors for retail motherboards but has has not posted an IVY Bridge BIOS update for the "Chicago" motherboard.VH2:BIOS 7.12A does NOT support Ivy Bridge. I have examined the microcode and there is no support for it, though there is pleanty of room to add it. The BIOS itself is dated 10/12/2011. Simply download the update, change the file extension to .zip, look in the zip, and you'll see the actual mod date for CHG_712_Signed.rom file is 10/12/2011. All they did was update the sp56123.rtf file on 2/14/2012, and later moved it the newer Support format in 4/21/2013 (no files were changed internally). I don't know why they improperly dated it for 4/13. Hope that answers your question, although not the answer either of us wanted.Just to confirm, that's what I'm currently running on a h8-1260t, and 10/12/2011 is the date embedded in the BIOS as well.Big_Dave:Both of us understand that Pegatron is not a retail supplier, and requests for BIOS updates come from the customer, HP. The Ivy Bridge processors were released April 2012, 4 months after the intro of the Chicago board, and ASRock, the *retail* side of Pegatron, announced that all 2nd gen Sandy Bridge mobos (including the H67 motherboards) would have Ivy Bridge support added. IMHO, HP should have requested a BIOS upgrade for their 2nd gen Sandy Bridge Pegatron-based HP motherboards. Obviously, that didn't happen, since their only update is actually dated 10/2011 (see above).It doesn't seem unreasonable to me for HP to drop an request to Pegatron, a *current* motherboard supplier for HP, to cut an upgrade to support the HP motherboards derived fom the retail motherboards Pegatron already have upgraded circa 3 months after the release of the HP (Pegatron) "Chicago" motherboard, which looks AMAZINGLY like the ASRock (Pegatron retail) H67DE3 with the dual graphics support removed (standard for HP), SATA 4 & 5 moved to board edge, and HP proprietary frontpanel connector added in the original place for the H67DE3 SATA 4 & 5 <grin>. Probably a couple minutes with the right BIOS tools and updated microcode from Intel (which I also have!), to support all Chicago-based systems. I'm hoping that maybe a HP Support rep can chime in on this, or someone can tell me where to find tools to recompile to add the SAFUWIN-compatible checksums to a modded BIOS? -Imsai8080 P.S. If it wasn't for the code checksums and the nonstandard SAFUWIN flash programmer, I would already have added the Ivy Bridge microcode myself. Gave it a try, no go so far, but I might keep trying.

Compatible rams for ivy bridge

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Best to buy from a recognized retailer.
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[solved itself] cpupower doesn't scale ivy bridge high enough

Not sure if I should have put this in the testing section, the kernel section or here. But I try here.
cpu family : 6
model : 58
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3632QM CPU @ 2.20GHz
My problem is:
$ analyzing CPU 0:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 1.20 GHz - 2.20 GHz
available frequency steps: 2.20 GHz, 2.20 GHz, 2.10 GHz, 2.00 GHz, 1.90 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.70 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.50 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.30 GHz, 1.20 GHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, conservative, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz.
boost state support:
Supported: yes
Active: yes
"current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.60 GHz."
Why is the maximum of the current policy 1.6 GHz and not 2.2GHz? cpupower knows it can scale up to 2.20GHz. i7z confirms that it never clocks above 1.6GHz when running stress -c 1.
So to make sure no automatism screws with it:
$ sudo cpupower frequency-set -g userspace
$ sudo cpupower frequency-set -f 2.20GHz
But still:
$ cpupower frequency-info
analyzing CPU 0:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 1.20 GHz - 2.20 GHz
available frequency steps: 2.20 GHz, 2.20 GHz, 2.10 GHz, 2.00 GHz, 1.90 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.70 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.50 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.30 GHz, 1.20 GHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, conservative, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 1.60 GHz.
boost state support:
Supported: yes
Active: yes
It won't go above 1.6 GHz.
What can I do to convince it to clock to the maximum frequency, and to use "turbo boost" when appropriate?
Edit: I have since rebooted again and this time I see this:
$ cpupower frequency-info
analyzing CPU 0:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 1.20 GHz - 2.20 GHz
available frequency steps: 2.20 GHz, 2.20 GHz, 2.10 GHz, 2.00 GHz, 1.90 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.70 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.50 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.30 GHz, 1.20 GHz
available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 2.20 GHz.
The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz.
boost state support:
Supported: yes
Active: yes
So at least it does clock to the official maximum. i7z doesn't show turbo boost though. Is it a i7z limitation for ivy bridge?
edit2:
After another reboot it works completely. Weird.
Last edited by Cdh (2012-10-12 08:33:58)

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I'm using Core i5 CPU.
Edit:
After suspend it behaves like ondemand, but still very strange behavior + I cant change XFCE settings on acpi events.
Edit again:
I installed jupiter again, but this time i added ROOT user to group jupiter instead of adding it only for my user. Now it works! Switches correctly. 4 reboots. But when closing laptop lid it still goes to sleep instead of black screen....
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Last edited by kellerman (2012-10-22 17:53:19)

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Ive just updated my P67A-GD55 (B3) to the 4.0 BIOS for Ivy Bridge and I am a little confused as to whether of not I will be able to benfit from PCIe-3 support on a Ivy Bridge CPU?
I intend to run 2 x GTX 680 in SLI, will I still be limited to PCIe-2 of can my board now take advantage of PCI-e 3?
Many thanks in advance.

For PCI-E 3.0, a Z68 G3 series mainboard with an Ivy CPU would be needed at the minimum. So far, you are not really missing anything anyway. PCI-E 3.0 doesn't seem to be reported as providing all that much of a performance benefit with current apps, programs, and games.
Having tested GTX 680 on the P67, I must say it is in itself running PCI-E 2.0 very impressive.

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your board is a B3 version (sandybridge capable) there doesn't seem to be any news from msi of adding Ivybridge support to that platform! they seem to be focusing on G3 version boards for that processor support
http://event.msi.com/mb/22nm/

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I may be quite possibly switching over from mac to pc this summer and am looking to build a workstation. I'm fairly new to customizing and building and am trying to understand all these differences between xeons, i7's, sandy bridge, sandy bridge-e, ivy bridge, etc.
For a while I was sold on the idea of a dual lower ghz xeon-e5 workstation for my 3d/compositing work, but I still see a lot of people pushing the idea of an overclocked i7 as being an worthy competitor for a lot of the type of work I do.
Anyhow, I've been led to believe that for my applications, which can usually use a lot of multicore multithreaded operations, that more cores are better. I've been looking at an 8-core cpu or possibly dual hex. I've been told to wait for ivy bridge, especially for graphics work and performance, but I notice statements that ivy bridge cpu's have a maximum of 4 cores? How does this leave them stacking up against previous sandy bridge/e 6 and 8 core cpu's?
I'm a little confused about this, why intels next gen microarchitecture would have less cores? Can somebody help clarify this for me?

TDP. Microsoft wants to limit the TDP of their chips (see http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power) and thus has to either limit the clock speed or the number of cores and L3 cache.
You may wonder what all this means and I can understand that. Look at it like a car, where the manufacturer limits fuel consumption to X gallons per mile. He either has to limit the top speed (clock speed) or limit the number of cylinders in the engine block (number of cores). That is what Intel currently does.
For AE and 3D applications, number of cores is critical, for PR clock speed is critical. Since you mention octo-cores, there is only the i5 Xeon with 8 cores. Bulldozer or whatever other AMD 8-cores there are on the market now or in the near future are absolute crap in comparison to Intel.
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I7 3770K Ivy Bridge Vs. i7-3930K Sandy Bridge for Lightroom and Photoshop

Hello, I have learned so much from this forum and have a question for everyone. I am working on a custom computer build but I am not sure about the CPU. I was planning on an i7-3930K (3.2 GHz 12Mb Cache) Sandy Bridge with an ASUS P9X79 but after more research I am also considering an i7-3770K (3.5 GHz 8mb Cache) Ivy Bridge with an undetermined mobo. The 3930 has 6 cores and more cache but is a slower chip compared to the 3770K. I have read some articles that Lightroom prefers a faster chip and that the extra cores may not be of great benefit.
We primarily use Photoshop and Lightroom for image editing and do not do any video editing. We really do more work in Lightroom than Photoshop so designing the system for it would give us the most benefit. Our primary use of photoshop is batching if that helps with our usage of the system.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Also feel free to tell me I am over analyzing this and either chip would work great
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Jonathan,
For Lightroom and Photoshop the i7-3770K will do fine. It also is much more affordable than a i7-3930K on 2011 platform, but at the same time much more limited for the future, because of the limited PCI-e lanes on the 1155 platform. The Ivy Bridge has another distinct disadvantage, the Intel supplied thermal paste is lousy, so it runs very, very hot.
In another place, http://ppbm7.com/index.php/cooling?showall=&start=4 I said:
Warning: If you are considering a much better affordable system, based on the Ivy Bridge processor, be warned that the cooling paste Intel uses on the Ivy Bridge is no good, especially when overclocking. At stock speed the i7-3770K runs 11 degrees hotter than with Liquid Ultra cooling paste and at 4.6GHz even 20 degrees centigrade. However if you change the cooling paste, you also void the warranty.
To summarize: the 2011 platform has a better perspective for the future but at a price.

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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/17/lenovo-roadmap-intel-chief-river-ivy-bridge-june-5th/
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README for RapidBoot
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9.24 KB 1.20 10 Apr 2012
Version 1.20
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Ivy Bridge-E for 30 Series - E5-1620 v2

The new Intel Processors Ivy-Bridege-E are the E5-1600 v2 and E5-2600 v2 series and have just been announced. Current processors are Sandy-Bridge-E E5-1600 and E5-2600 series. Supposedly compatible with only a BIOS update.
Will future orders of the 30 series ThinkStations come with the new processors? For example E5-1620 v2 for the S30? Are current systems upgradeable?
Thanks

I've sort of been waiting for this question
First, I believe the CPUs are actually Ivy Bridge - EP....at least these are the ones we're using in our Romley-based S30, C30, and D30 platforms.
Second, this is a tricky question to answer. If you watched the history of S30, C30, and D30 closely, you might have noticed that new machine types were released for the platform, while the original machine types used at launch were essentially EOL'd (end of life'd). Ivy Bridge (IVB) was, unfortunately, the reason for that.
As it stands today, systems with the following machine types are capable of supporting IVB:
S30: 4351, 4352
C30: 1136, 1137
D30: 4353, 4354
Previous machine types (listed below) will not support IVB, and be limited to using Sandy Bridge CPUs:
S30: 0569, 0567, 0568, 0606
C30: 1095, 1096, 1097
D30: 4223, 4228, 4229
You'll also notice that the BIOS code trees are different between the two groups of machine types. The newer machine types, shown in blue above, use A2KTXXA (S30) and A3KTXXA (C30/D30), whereas the older machine type, shown in red above, use A0KTXXA (S30) and A1KTXXA (C30/D30). The older A0/A1 BIOS code tree will not support IVB.
As for future orders....the new machine types (blue) are still shipping with Sandy Bridge CPUs as of today. Eventually, Sandy Bridge specific models will die out and be replaced with IVB models. So you'll want to pay close attention to the configuration you're ordering to make sure you get the CPU you want. Note that IVB CPU descriptions will appear very similar to Sandy Bridge....the difference being the "v2" nomenclature added to the end of the description identifies it as an IVB CPU.
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Does HP plan to release a bios update?
Is there anything we can do to get them to offer an update?
I really wish HP would support it.
I've love this machine even more with a new Ivy Bridge CPU and HD 4000 graphics.
Has anyone tried installing a processor to see what happens?

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Some third parties have released bios updates to support the Ivy Bridge product. A lot of regession testing needs to be done on the older motherboards. I would suspect that HP will release new models of the TouchSmart with Ivy Bridge support.
The Intel 2600 is a viable upgrade for your TouchSmart.
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