Weird Pismo antics...

OK...here goes...got a Pismo which has been behaving badly for a couple months...nothing earth-shattering...but causing enough annoyance for me to consider retirement (something I REALLY don't want to do...since it's my primary traveling machine)...
I finally updated the firmware to 4.1.8f5 and things started getting flaky...when I reimaged the machine for OS9 (had been tiger only for a while) I had to disable ATI Accelerator and ATI Video Accelerator to get it to load OS9 completely...
DVD player no longer works...starts to load then freezes...
I have two processors (original 400Mhz G3 and 550Mhz G4)...several sticks of memory (a few 512MB and the original 64MB)...and a few hard drives (100GB, 60GB and original 10GB)...I've swapped parts around with no luck...
One thing I'd like to try would be to reapply the firmware patch (possible something went pear-shaped during the initial install of it???)...but it won't allow...is there a way to force the firmware update???
...any thoughts or ideas would be extremely helpful...thanks in advance...

Kenichi Watanabe wrote:
I had to disable ATI Accelerator and ATI Video Accelerator to get it to load OS9 completely...
That could be a clue... Since you were able to trouble-shoot by swapping out most of the parts except for the motherboard, that may be the problem. The ATI chips are there too.
I'm not entirely sure...everything works well under Panther (I gave up on Tiger because of all the niggling little faults like dealing with optical discs and having the machine huccup whenever I put in a CD or DVD...but oddly I do miss Dashboard and Safari 3)...
...the reason I'm doubting the Rage 128 is I just got done playing Diablo II without a hitch or any issues whatsoever...

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