What sort order does address book use?

I'm trying to be able to sort things "after" the alphabet in a standard address book "sort by name" sort order. So aA to zZ then other stuff. In a standard ASCII sort, ~ would work - but that's been changed in Thunderbird.
So far I've been trying to find out what comes after "Z" in the sort order, but have been unable to do so.
It's not following ANY standard sort order that I've been able to determine.
It's sorting 0xF7 (÷) in front of 0x5A (Z). It's even sorting Unicode U+FEFC *before* U+005A in an "ascending" order??
Was the standard sort order hacked so that anything that isn't alphabetical comes first, which means that if I want to have something sort after "Z" I HAVE to use zz or zzz instead of what works in every other program I use? Even ~ sorts before the alphabet, yet even in standard ASCII it sorts after.
Anyone know of an add-on that fixes this "helpful" hack and gives me a predictable, dependable, and above all documented sort order?

I think my only comment at this point can be "my, that escalated quickly!!".
Thanks for the pointers and information. Unfortunately, I'm now lost in too much mostly incomprehensible information. However, the tr03.pdf doc you provided I think had the answer.
If I understand it correctly, this (new to me) sorting mechanism means that nothing comes after Z any more? (based on the PDF file you gave me, part 3.0 intro, order of characters). Is that correct?
Actually, I think I'd consider this "solved", or at least "answered".
Thank you.

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    The script will eventually use numbers to send email and get the user inputs and any yet to reach there..
    After going through lots of scripts to sort through the address book and make a clean address book, i found they are quite slow in processing takes about 20~30 Minutes to get through 2000 Contacts..
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    global MsgTitle
    on run
    set MsgTitle to "Search for Duplicates in Address Book Contacts"
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    "This Script takes a while to finish" & return & "maybe 10 min or More..." & return & "Depending on the Address Book Contacts." & return & return & "Hence Allow it to run for the while" with title MsgTitle ¬
    with icon 1 ¬
    buttons {"Continue"} ¬
    giving up after 5
    set question to display dialog "Select the Duplicate Search Parameter " with icon 1 with title MsgTitle ¬
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    end if
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    end run
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    on GetDup_byName(theGroupName)
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    end if
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    if theName is not in biglist then
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    set this_item to item i of counter
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    add this_item to group theGroup
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    end if
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    end repeat
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    end if
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    end repeat
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    with icon 1 ¬
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    giving up after 5
    end tell
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    set rtnValue to button returned of question
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    set theGroupPhone to "Duplicate Phone"
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    set thegroupNoPhone to "Only Email Id's"
    set theGroupNoData to "No Email or Phone"
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    save "Address Book"
    end if
    if not (exists (group theGroupPhone)) then
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    save "Address Book"
    end if
    if not (exists (group theGroupNoEmail)) then
    make new group with properties {name:theGroupNoEmail}
    save "Address Book"
    end if
    if not (exists (group thegroupNoPhone)) then
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    save "Address Book"
    end if
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    save "Address Book"
    end if
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    set ListofPhones to value of phone of people -- the_phones
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    set ListEmail_Dup to {}
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    set No_EmailList to {}
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    repeat with i from 1 to count of ListofEmailID
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    end repeat
    end if
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    set thePhones to item i of ListofPhones
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    repeat with j from 1 to count of thePhones
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    set end of ListPhone_Dup to {tmpdata} & {thePersonID}
    end if
    end repeat
    end if
    end repeat
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    add testdata to group theGroup
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    end if*)
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    set tempdata to item j of Dup_email
    if onlyDupEList does not contain {tempdata} then add tempdata to group theGroupEmail
    end repeat
    save application "Address Book"
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    repeat with j from 1 to the count of No_EmailList
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    if No_PhoneList does not contain {tempdata1} then
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    property yy : {{"g", "h"}, {"a", "b"}, {"b", "e", "f"}, {"e"}, {"c", "d"}} -- list of children per parent
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    property qq : {}
    property rr : {}
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    property yy : {} -- list of children per parent; given later
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    Good luck,
    Hiroto
    Message was edited by: Hiroto

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