What SSD is in the X1?

Does anyone know what SSDs are in the Thinkpad X1? 126GB & 160GB info (brand, model, read & write speed, etc.) would be helpful. Thanks.

the 128 gb option is a msata.
big for a msata that for sure.
msata is cap at sata 2 and msata disks run slower then 2.5 most of all when you look at the OTHER read writes that are more important.
probley not a intel or it would say intel and intel just makes use of marvel anyway crucial M4 or C400 to you.
however lenovo uses a intel 310 in msata and thats really a x25m not fast at all.
old tech really.
the 160 gig is a 2.5 inch option that is intel.
port 0 allows for sata 3 full 600 speed.
intel 320 i would say as it rated slow vs the samsumg 9 series laptop ssd.
i doubt it a full out 520 with a marvel but i could be wrong.
either way it a expensive option.
you can get a m4/c400 marvel or samsung 830 sata 3 that hit 500 and have great other read writes that matter more then the silly beches they post.
sandforce i leave alone and i cant belive asus put that in aultrabook.
there also better msata choices too but if you want it stock then these are not bad choices as they wont use alot of power and are a solid ssd in terms of use.
you can google what a 320 dose in msata and 2.5''
i hear there a sata 3 msata comming in the spring but no msata port surports that and i wont expect many pc maker too.
the msata used in the macs air and ultrabooks are way different there a long stick like why they are faster cause they have more room for dram and layout of type of nand.
normally msata really hamstrings a ssd design so dont expect alot probley last gen 2.5 speeds pretty much and i talking sata 2 there not 3.
buy a samsung 830 and reload best choice bar none.

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I will look into the SATA version on the optical bay, I never thought about that with this computer. My prior computer was a Dell XPS 17 3D (L702X) notebook which had 2 internal 2.5" SATA, in which I installed an optical bay drive. On that specific computer the optical bay was technically an SATA 3, but due to design constraints it couldnt run at that speed since there was voltage leakage across some pathways in the chipset when the optical bay has read-write throughput that is typical of a hard drive (as opposed to much less data transfer typically seen on an optical drive).  The M6800 can be factory configured with an optical bay hard drive, so I suspect it can support one properly. The XPS 17 was not available with an optical bay drive as an OEM configuration from Dell, so it couldnt be expected to properly support one. The design issue with the voltage leak across the chipset pathways on the XPS 17 was known by Dell, but due to the low bandwidth of an optical drive, the problem never occured with any of the factory OEM configurations.
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I use the pair of 2TB drives to store .vhd and .vhdx drives for test platforms for Hyper-V machines. The virtualized servers with high hard drive utilization get moved to the SSD RAID-0 array, the rest are stored on the 4TB rotational drives.
If you have any questions or comments for me, please let me know. I will see what info I can find on the optical bay SATA revision for this notebook, I am very curious to find out if it is in fact SATA 2. I will let you know what my test results are, I will try to use the AS SSD benchmark program, I believe it will work with rotational drives, otherwise I will find another benchmark utility - do you have a recommendation on which to use?
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