Where does LR3 install develop presets?

I ask this question because, on my system, the answer is not obvious:
I have 8 catalogs. Everyone of them is configured to store presets within the catalog. When I examine the contents of the presets folders (different for every catalog) I find that only 1 catalog out of the 8 contains any items in its Develop Presets folder (other than the folder 'User Presets') and these develop presets appear to be the default ones that are shipped and installed with the product. However, all 8 of the catalogs list these default develop presets under the group 'Lightroom Presets' in the left hand panel in Develop mode.
The 'global' lightroom develop presets location, at ~user\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom\Develop Presets\Lightroom Presets is empty. However the parent folder (Develop Presets) does contain folders for the 3 volumes of the free OnOne PerfectPresets as well as a User Presets folder (not empty). But, those OnOne presets are available only in 1 of the 8 catalogs, and not the same catalog as that referred to above.
How do catalogs, which do not have the Lightroom default develop presets present, find them?
Why can't catalogs find the free OnOne presets which are installed at the architected system (or global) location or any of the User Presets at this location?
Finally, I do have a 'spare' Lightroom Settings folder which does not appear to be connected to any catalog: when I rename it to a garbage name I can find no immediate problem in any of my 8 catalogs. Is it safe to delete this spare Lightroom Settings folder?

XEyedBear wrote:
I have 8 catalogs. Everyone of them is configured to store presets within the catalog.
This is where I think you are misunderstanding how the "Store presets with catalog" option works. For a start, you cannot configure an individual catalog to use this option.....it is a global Lightroom preference which applies to any and every catalog on that specific system. Once you have slected that option, the effect is that Lightroom will create a "Lightroom Settings" folder in the same folder as the catalog.....so if you have 8 catalogs, and they're all in their own individual folder, you'll eventually end up with 8 x "Lightroom Settings" folders. Keep all 8 catalogs (and preview sub-folders) in the one folder, and you'll get away with just one "Lightroom Settings" folder.
A couple of other things to understand about this option:
1. On initial creation, the "Lightroom Settings" folder contains only a subset of the main settings folders contained at the default user appdata location....and all the sub-folders are initially empty. Lightroom does NOT copy any presets (Lightroom's own or your User Presets) to the equivalent sub-folder in "Lightroom Settings".
2. Furthermore, from the second that you select that option, Lightroom will no longer look at the default location for any User Presets that you had.....so the immediate effect is that the User Presets 'disappear' from the Develop Module (they haven't really been deleted, it's just that Lightroom no longer sees them).
3. When you create a new User Preset after setting that option, it will be stored in the appropriate sub-folder within the "Lightroom Settings" which is specific to the catalog in use at the time, but would not be copied to any other "Lightroom Settings" folders. Easy in that circumstance to end up with each catalog having different user presets available to it, and easy to see maybe why the OnOne presets are only available to one catalog.
4. And not all Lightroom settings are 'switched' to the "Lightroom Settings" folder, some remain in the default location.
To be honest, unless you have a really good reason to store different presets with different catalogs, I think you're making a big mistake in selecting the 'Store Presets with catalog' option in your multiple catalog situation. I did a write-up on this subject not so long ago for the folks over at Victoria's Lightroom Forums, you might find it worth a read:
http://www.lightroomforums.net/showthread.php?14169-What-is-the-purpose-of-the-quot-Store- Presets-with-Catalog-quot-option
Hope this helps....

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