Which model heats more, Macbook Pro Retina 13'' or Macbook Pro non Retina 13''?

Macbook pro without retina display heats up more.
The New retina models have the a-symetrical fans which allows quieter noise and runs cooler

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Which one do i buy: Macbook pro retina 13" or Macbook pro non retina 13"?

which do i buy?
13" retina macbook pro
core i5
256 Gb SSD
8 GB ram
Intel hd 4000 graphics
OR
13" non retina macbook pro
core i7
750 Gb HD @ 5400 rpm
8 Gb ram
intel hd 4000 graphics
i m going to study bachelors in multimedia.....

Macbook pro without retina display heats up more.
The New retina models have the a-symetrical fans which allows quieter noise and runs cooler

Just purchased a 15" Macbook Retina Which model do I have?

Hello everyone,
Today I was lucky enough to purchase an open box 15" Macbook Pro Retina from Best Buys for $1200 (With some store manager employ discounts ) and I wanted to know which model I have. For example from the first day they released the 15" Retina how many models or changes did this product have? Now I compared it to the tech specs on Apple.com and I'm just confused with the graphics details. Here are some pictures of the details of my Macbook:
The current one that's for sale on Apple.com has a :
Intel HD Graphics 4000
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory and automatic graphics switching
All help well be greatly aprecateted. By the way this thing is just amazing and I'm coming from a 2010 early model 13" Macbook Pro. WOW!!!

Go to SYSTEM PROFILER>HARDWARE>HARDWARE OVERVIEW>MODEL IDENTIFIER
Ciao.
I would guess you have a 10.1
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Which model of memory upgrade should I get for my MacBook Pro early 2011 model? I now have 2 - 2GB modules.

Which model of memory upgrade should I get for my MacBook Pro early 2011 model? I now have 2 - 2GB modules.

Installing RAM in a 2011-2012 MacBook Pro
There is really only one way to install RAM into a 2011-2012 MacBook Pro and while there are hundreds of DIY videos online, I just like this one, found on YouTube, by “macmixing”.
Note that there is a difference in the RAM that should be used in 2011 and 2012 models.
2011 models must use:
•204-pin PC-10600 (1333 MHz) DDR3 SO-DIMM
And 2012 models must use:
•204-pin PC3-12800 (1600 MHz) DDR3 SO-DIMM
So here's the video:
Remember that the 13", 15" and 17" 2011 models (early or late) and the 13" and 15" mid-2012 non-Retina models can handle 4GB, 8GB or (unofficially, but, believe me, it works) 16GB of RAM. There are, in my opinion, only two 100% Mac-compatible vendors out there: Crucial and OWC. I really can't recommend any other brands, even though it may work, as these are the only brands that I've personally used in quite a while. Also remember to stay away from any RAM that is a “value” brand - Macs are picky about RAM and often these value RAM modules just don’t work very well.
Good luck,
Clinton

Dual Internal HDD in MacBook Pro? How? Which Models?

Alright well it's official; my logic board failed on my 2011 MBP, and now I need to replace it. I have been trying to research the mythical dual internal hard drive setup in the MacBook Pros but haven't found any specifics on which models can and which models can't.
The cheapest avenue which I can take is to simply adopt my older sister's laptop, but I wanted to figure out whether or not it's dual internal HDD capable.
Here are the specfications on that laptop:
And if this laptop is capable, can it handle 16GB RAM? I've heard conflicting anwers in regards to that, half stating that 16GB is possible but that Apple refuses to acknowledge the fact, and the other half stating to heed Apple's warning that 8GB is the max.
The second (much more expensive) route is that if laptop is indeed incapable, as I fear it might be, which models should I look at? Was this just a thing of the past that is no longer possible?
Thanks, and I appologize if this is a "dumb question"

PocketFool wrote:
So the 2012 MBP is capable of supporting a 2nd internal HDD? Can you link to the OWC website that you mentioned?
http://eshop.macsales.com/search/data+doubler
The MBP *can* accept the 16GB RAM but does this void any warranty since Apple technically says that you shouldn't/can't run that much?
Only on the RAM itself, not the rest of the MBP. The RAM vendor guarantee will cover that.
However installing the data doubler will void the Apple warranty.
Ciao.
Re: RAM: It is not that Apple prohibits the installation of 16 GB RAM, it is a case where they simply have not tested 16 GB of installed RAM.
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Hi. Which of the current macbooks has a keyboard similar to a macbook pro 2012 model?

Hi,
I was in PCWorld the other day and tried out the keyboards on a number of the current crop of MacBook Pros and Airs. I have used a number of thinkpads over the years and so I guess I'm kind of used to a certain type of keyboard which gives good tactile feedback and where the keys have a fair amount of 'travel' which I felt wasn't the case with the new macbooks.However, this was not the impression I had when I tried an older MacBook Pro (non-retina) which had a noticeably different feel to it - the keys seemed to be higher and there appeared to be a greater amount of travel - the end result being a much better typing experience. My question is, do any of the current MacBook models have the same keyboard of typing 'feel' of the older MacBook pro?
Thanks in advance.

Sorry about the typo in the last sentence. It should read: 'My question is, do any of the current MacBook models have the same keyboard or typing 'feel' of the older MacBook pro?'

Which is better(generally): MacBook Pro with Retina Display or MacBook Air?

Which is better(generally): MacBook Pro with Retina Display or MacBook Air?

Better for what? These are two very different computers. Tell us which things you are looking for and we may be able to help you. Examples - weight, standard RAM and flash memory available, video resolution, etc.
See the technical specifications articles for each -
MacBook Air.
MacBook Pro retina display.
Best of luck.

Should I get a MacBook Pro non retina upgraded or retina base model?

Hi I am looking to buy a MacBook Pro non retina or retina model, I have a budget so I would buy the non retina i7 with 4gb of ram and upgrade to 8 later or buy the retina model with no upgrades and not being able to upgrade it later on... I might be playing a bit of games like skyrim oblivion gta maybe other stuff downloading music and movies ... Please help me decide thanks.
MacBook Pro

You're most welcome, Bacon.
I know you'll love your new MBP.
This is my 2nd, and they're just wonderful.

Im about to buy a macbook pro. but I dont know if there are too much techproblems with the retina model,such as overheating, malfunction of the fans, screen problems?. or is the macbook pro non retina in tech problems a better option? thanxa lot

Im about to buy a macbook pro. but I dont know if there are too much techproblems with the retina model,such as overheating, malfunction of the fans, screen problems?. or is the macbook pro non retina in tech problems a better option? thanxa lot

I have a brand new rMBP and have not seen any of those problems.

Should I buy the old MacBook Pro(non-Retina)

I want to buy a new MacBook but very confused with which model to buy. I was very keen on MacBook Pro (non-retina) because of it good specs and the flexibility it provides for hardware upgrades.
But with the launch of new MacBook Pro Retina models, I have been hearing news (rumours) that the old MacBook Pro (non-retina) will be phased out.
Please advise me if it is still a good idea to purchase the old MacBook Pro (non-retina) model ? I am just afraid that Apple might stop supporting the product in future.

I bought my MacbookPro 15.4'' (mid 2012) in the beginning of October and have been fully satisfied, even if it's not Retina. It has IntelCore i7 2.3 Ghz, 1600 Mhz DDR 3 and this alone let draw a conclusion that this is indeed powerfull and efficient machine one could ever wish to own and at the same time to pose a question: what else could one desire? It's definitely OK for the next 5 years and as much as I can determine to derive from it for my needs (by the way I'm convinced it would even meet the requirements of professionals such as IT specialists and the like) this Mac will give me much to benefit from its specs. Mine came with Lion 10.7.4, upgraded then to Mavericks and voila - its performance didn't dissapoint me either. You should concern more where to buy to purchase high-quality product, of course brand new (not used/overused, damaged both internally and externally). The best choise is to buy it from an authorized reseller, a local Apple Store etc. Believe me, an "old" Mac (is mine old??) - speaking of the span of -2,3,4 years prior to this year is a very relative notion: it is TO SOME EXTENT if you compare to the newest models, BUT it isn't so "old" (whan saying the word our psychology distorts this making it sound like "total garbage" which IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT) comparing to the whole Microsoft-based stuff, even pretending to smooth quality (Windows 8 2-in-1 "tablets"). My advice - buy a 2012 model and you won't lose.

MacBook Pro non-retina or retina?

So, I'm a junior in high school and I'm in the market for a new laptop for college (I know I should probably wait for newer models to come out, but Apple's specs don't seem to be going obsolete anytime soon). A little more background, I'm planning on majoring in software engineering, so if anyone has experience with that please share your tech advice! My choices are as follows:
MacBook Pro non-retina with: 2.5 GHz i5, 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD
Or
MacBook Pro retina: 2.8 GHz i5, 8GB RAM, 512 GB SSD
(Side question; for college will I really need 1 TB or 512 GB? I have another laptop that I plan to use as my personal laptop, while this MacBook will be primarily for school. I just like have a little more room to work with, but if you think 256 will work please let me know)
A major factor in my decision is price, with the non-retina coming in at $1,134 and the retina at either $1,399 or $1,699 depending on the SSD size recommended, if recommended. The biggest factor would probably be HDD vs SSD, is the SDD worth the extra $400-600?

http://store.apple.com/ca_edu_93120/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MD101LL/A&step=c onfig
Right there, 13 inch non retina pro with the i7 upgrade 130$ but with the retina model I can't upgrade it all as the base model is 1249 and can't go more than that, with apple education I can get the pro non retina for 999 then 130 for i7 upgrade and I could upgrade the ram later on I'm just wondering how will the games run on the non retina i7 vs base model retina model which I can't upgrade later on

MacBook Pro non retina or retina on a budget?

Hi I am looking to buy a MacBook Pro non retina or retina model, I have a budget so I would buy the non retina i7 with 4gb of ram and upgrade to 8 later or buy the retina model with no upgrades and not being able to upgrade it later on... I might be playing a bit of games like skyrim oblivion gta maybe other stuff downloading music and movies ... Please help me decide thanks.

http://store.apple.com/ca_edu_93120/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MD101LL/A&step=c onfig
Right there, 13 inch non retina pro with the i7 upgrade 130$ but with the retina model I can't upgrade it all as the base model is 1249 and can't go more than that, with apple education I can get the pro non retina for 999 then 130 for i7 upgrade and I could upgrade the ram later on I'm just wondering how will the games run on the non retina i7 vs base model retina model which I can't upgrade later on

Macbook Pro (Non-Retina) Battery Life

Just recently purchased a non-retina MacBook Pro, 13" with the upgraded i7 processor. So far, it's lots of fun, just one small question/concern...
Does the battery life really suck on this one, or is it just mine that possibly needs service?
The estimated remaining battery time keeps fluctuating, which is understandable, which attempting to constantly calculate; however, I score perhaps three hours of life using only web (Safari) and iTunes (transferring songs to/from iPhone, etc.) I haven't even installed my Adobe CS collection yet, and I'm afraid it'll constantly be glued to the wall adaptor, thus defeating the purpose of an expensive, beautiful laptop.
Anyone believe this to be common, uncommon, or bizarre perhaps? I've got AppleCare, of course, so worst case scenario, I create a TM backup and send in for inspection/repair

There is an authorized Apple store not far from me, but I've only seen one technician there ever, and they'd most likely send it out for service or something anyways.
Any web browser I have attempted to use (Safari, Firefox, and especially Chrome,) is listed under "Apps Using Significant Energy.." though Firefox and Safari have only stated that when more than one tab is open, doing searches. Chrome states that upon opening the app- weird.
There is no constant video streaming, only videos on occasion, likely via YouTube; all that's one with iTunes is syncing with the external hard drive that houses the files, backups, and playing music- no iTunes Radio, Podcasts, or of the sort. Also, iTunes (almost) never shows in the Significant Energy column- only seen it there maybe once.
When using the computer, I see the calculated battery life jump from seven, to five, to three something... which reminds me more of my ancient PowerBook. haha. There has been nothing done so far other than small, meddling tasks- non-significant sized file downloading, occasional video, and the bulk of it just retooling the iTunes library- still restoring it from scratch
I just want to be certain that there's no significant energy usage hidden here. This machine has the 2.9ghz i7, with maxed 16gb RAM- would that differ anything from the original spec models that people test and claim to have some solid battery life? (I don't mean the new Retina or Air models) It seems fine when I unplug it from the wall, but drains quicker than expected. Once I start drawing and editing, I'd like for this machine to last more than an hour

W530 vs. MacBook Pro (non-Retina) purchase conundrum...

Hi,
for 3D modeling (Alias Autostudio 2013) and 3D rendering (Next Limit Maxwell Render 2.7.1) and Photography (Photoshop CS6, etc.) I looked at the newish Lenovo W530 compared to three other contenders. I configured them all with the same processor and standard HDD to compare. For colour calibration, I have a professional EyeOne solution so the W530's option is not needed. I am using external Monitors when not on the road. All prices were found in the companies' online stores.
My reasoning so far - only the Dell and HP feature an IPS/H-IPS display panel. The Dell is bulky. The HP too costly in comparison. The MacBook Pro has all parts glued in. The W530 has a bad keyboard and is bulky. I liked the fact that (as explained in another thread) it is very easy and affordable to put a Samsung 830 SSD in the W530 and that some parts can be serviced/upgraded with reasonable effort a couple of years down the road).
Looking at the price/performance of all four, I suddenly find the non-Retina MBP a serious option for a Windows machine with the added benefit of slimness. What is the consensus in this forum?
Thanks for any input!
Apple MacBook Pro (non-Regina version because of Windows 7 and 8 lacking support with pixel scaling)
i7-3720QM quad-core 2,6 GHz 6 MB L3 cache
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 SDRAM
750 GB SATA 6 GB/s 7200 RPM
1680 x 1050 NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1 GB GDDR5
2,6kg
2.379,00 €
Dell Precision M4700
i7-3720QM quad-core 2,6 GHz 6 MB L3 cache
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 SDRAM
750 GB SATA 6 GB/s 7200 RPM
1920 x 1080 AMD FirePro M4000 Mobility Pro 1 GB GDDR5
2,8kg
2.482,00 €
Lenovo ThinkPad W530
i7-3720QM quad-core 2,6 GHz 6 MB L3 cache
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 SDRAM
500 GB SATA 6 GB/s 7200 RPM
1920 x 1080 NVIDIA Quadro K2000M 2 GB GDDR3
2,7kg
2.151,42 €
HP Elitebook 8560w
i7-3720QM quad-core 2,5 GHz 8 MB L3 cache
8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 SDRAM
750 GB SATA 3 GB/s 7200 RPM
1920 x 1080 NVIDIA Quadro 2000M 2 GB GDDR3
3,1kg
2.840,53 €

I think I can give some good input here, on the W530 at least.
Firstly, I'm using a W520 for exactly your purposes--3D modeling (Solidworks, Autodesk products, etc.), engineering simulation/analysis, and extensive photography and photo editing, and it is GREAT. Of course, all other brands of laptops with similar system specs should perform about as well, but the size/weight of the Lenovo is unmatched by any of the other laptop PCs I have used. I use a Dell M4600 at work, and it's a decent laptop, but it feels very heavy and bulky compared to my W520. Performance-wise, the two are spec'd identically, and performance is nearly identical, except my W520 gets noticeably better battery life for some reason.
I can't vouch for the IPS displays of the Dell or HP, but I will definitely caution you of this: pay attention to the color gamut! This matters so much and it's one of those numbers that most consumers never bother to care about because they don't know what it means. The larger the color gamut of a display, the more colors it's capable of displaying.
Even the Macbook Retina display only has an sRGB color gamut. That means it's only capable of displaying the colors within the sRGB color space and that's it. Sure, the IPS screen has nice contrast and good viewing angles, but you're missing out on a lot of colors that the Lenovo FHD display gives you, assuming it's calibrated properly.
Now, keep in mind, ALL digital SLR cameras are capable of recording color well beyond the sRGB color space. Looking at photos on a calibrated sRGB display vs. a calibrated AdobeRGB display makes an enormous difference.
Have a look at this graphic I made for you: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0h7vad4x8gi81j6/kbB13_927X#f:gamuts.png The top plot shows you the AdobeRGB color space (wireframe) vs. the Lenovo FHD calibrated display color gamut. You can see that the Lenovo color gamut comes very very close to filling out the entirety of the AdobeRGB color space.
The image below that is the sRGB color space (solid) vs. AdobeRGB (wireframe). See how many fewer color values that represents? That's what you're getting with the vast majority of laptop displays. In fact, most typical laptop displays are only capable of 60-70% of sRGB. That's, frankly, terrible.
Now, beyond that, I will admit the MBP is very slim, and sleek. But, you can't upgrade anything in it, and the keyboard sucks compared to the W530. My girlfriend has a W530 and, much as I hate to admit it, the keyboard is nowhere near as bad as we all feared compared to my W520. In typing feel, it is just as good, the key caps are actually a little bit larger (so more finger space), and the new layout is really only going to bother you if you're very accustomed to a clustered del/home/end/pgup/pgdown group. I still prefer my W520 keyboard, but the W530 keyboard is very nice.
If you do go for the Lenovo, definitely don't waste your money on the built-in color sensor. It's horrible. Your external calibrator will give you much better results. I don't know which EyeOne device you're using, but make sure it's capable of working with wide-gamut displays. If it's not, I'd recommend either a Spyder3 or Spyder4 sensor. You can get the cheapest versions of these for ~70 dollars and then use dispCalGUI (freeware) to get VERY good profiling results.
Josh

13'' 2.5GHz MacBook Pro (non Retina) - Still worth getting?

I'm looking into getting a new Mac.
My thinking at the moment is that the SuperDrive will be much more useful to me than the Retina Display, so I was thinking of getting the older 13'' 2.5GHz MacBook Pro. But I hear this model is being phased out; would I be stupid to get this now instead of one of the newer models?
What other sorts of things should I be thinking about?
Thanks for all replies.

Little Endian,
it depends on what you need to do with a new Mac. My “new” Mac (bought last year) was a used Mid 2010 model; it suffices for my needs. If you require the higher resolution built-in display, then the non-Retina model can’t compete. I’m not sure which model has the longer battery duration per charge. Physically, the non-Retina models have socketed RAM, so their RAM is user-replaceable; the Retina models have soldered RAM, so their RAM isn’t user-replaceable. The non-Retina models take industry standard 2.5-inch form factor, 9.5-mm high SATA drives; the older Retina models take Mini-SATA SSDs, and the current Retina models take PCIe SSDs, both of which have far fewer choices available if an upgrade is desired. The non-Retina models have Ethernet and FireWire 800 ports; the Retina models require Thunderbolt adapters if either of these is needed. As you’d noted, the non-Retinas model have a SuperDrive; the Retina models would need an external drive. The non-Retina models have a Kensington lock slot; the Retina models don’t. If out-of-warranty repair would be an issue for you, the non-Retina models are easier to repair than the Retina models.

Which model heats more, Macbook Pro Retina 13'' or Macbook Pro non Retina 13''?

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