Why I won't buy another Creative product

Why I won?t buy another Creative product![size="3" face="Times New Roman">?[size="3" face="Times New Roman">It all started when I bought my first 7. speakers, Gigaworks S750. Since I li've in Iraq... not all creative products are available, so when I was on a trip to a near by country I found the Gigaworks and returned happy home hoping I?ll have great experience?well it was until they broke only 3 months later! Nice job creative for a 500 dollars set of speakers ?well done!
[size="3" face="Times New Roman">?[size="3" face="Times New Roman">And then there is the Audigy 2 ZS, I ?m a power user and I really find it hard to get the fixes and driver updates, what the hell creative? You guys can't find a way that make it user?friendly? What the hell is wrong with your support? I really don?t know what fix or driver to get when I download them manually, and don?t get me started with the automatic update it sucks big time.
[size="3" face="Times New Roman">?[size="3" face="Times New Roman">Then vista comes and nothing works on vista, no THX setup, nothing except for a crappie driver console!
[size="3" face="Times New Roman">?[size="3" face="Times New Roman">And now they do that to Daniel_k?!?! well that?s it ! no more creative for me, the ?next time I?ll stay with my mother board sound, since it won?t make that difference on Vista.
[size="3" face="Times New Roman">?[size="3" face="Times New Roman">I hope you are happy Creative!
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[size="3" face="Times New Roman">?P.S: Many people come consult me about getting upgrades for their computers and guess what I?m going to tell them about whether they should buy a creative soundcard?

I agree completely. The corporate monkey who started this war on consumers should be tarred and publicly humilated. I won't stand for this. I've been a long time creative labs consumer, but no more. Creative Labs is now at the same gutter as MPAA/RIAA as far as I'm concerned.

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Why I will never buy another Creative product ever again....

I just replaced my creative sound card with a brand new Asus. So far the Asus works perfectly, sounds great and was super easy to install. The first creative card I bought was deader than roadkill in 3 months. The second Creative card I bought(The one I just replaced) would intermittently stop working either in the middle of doing something like playing a game for no apparent reason or simply not work at all when you boot up the computer. No error messages, no indications of any kind. It would just go silent. I have a feeling that part of the reason this may have been happening is because the shape of the card was very weird and never fit in my case quite right so I had to almost force it to line up with the screw hole so that it wouldn't fall out of the PCI slot. Not the case with my new Asus card. I put it in the slot, everything lined up perfectly and took about 0 seconds to install.
Also, the Creative card was a 5. surround sound card and I bought Creative 5. surround sound speakers to go with it. The logical leap is that the two would work in conjunction with each other. However this was far from the case. I never got all the speakers working at the same time. Ever. Not once. This made 3 creative products in a row that sucked.
One bad product, well maybe somebody had a bad day at the factory. 2 bad products is pushing it. 3 bad products means there is a serious quality control and cheap parts problem in the company. Perhaps this is because I am buying their low end products. Maybe their 200? - 300$ range products are better. But after all this hassle and waste of money I sure as hell am not wanting to find out.
Next on the agenda: replace the crappy Creative speakers with something nicer. Sad really, the Sound Blaster used to be the Industry Standard. Now your cards are junk. After 6 months the metal on the card is literally rusting and corroding away. I have NEVER seen that happen on a computer peripheral before and I have bought a lot video cards, sound cards, etc... Goodbye Creative. That is the last dollar I spend on you.

Which component is broken? If it is only the hard drive it can be replaced, and someone here will be happy to help with that.
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Is there a way to play video clips that use adobe flash and if not when are you going to resolve your problem with them ? I won't buy another apple product until you do and I Know I,m not the online.

Is there a way to play video clips that use adobe flash and if not when are you going to resolve your problem with them ? I won't buy another apple product until you do and I Know I,m not the only one.

Use the search feature and type in Flash and there are like thousands of posts on this.
You seem to think you are addressing Apple with your post. This is a user forum and we are all users just like you.

Never buying another Creative product again

To anyone at Creative who might be reading this,
I recently submitted the following question to Creative email support: "When do you plan on releasing updated drivers for the Audigy 2 line which will support Vista and be compatable with the Service Pack installation? (The lack of up to date drivers currently prohibitsupgrading to SP according to Microsoft) Thank you."
In return, I received the email below. As a long time supporter of your company, I'd like your team at Creative to know that this canned, non-reply pretty much guarantees that I will never buy another Creative product again. The notion that a simple email query can't be answered if it's more than a year after the purchase date is laughable. Especially when it's related to your company failing to keep up to date with the roll-out of one of the most common operating systems in the world.
Thank you for so clearly indicating the little regard with which you hold your customers.
----- Original Message ----
From: Creative Americas Customer Support < [email protected]>
Dear _,
Thank you for contacting Creative Labs regarding your Audigy 2 Platinum.
From the detailed description provided; I understand you wanted to know
when will updated drivers for Audigy 2 be release so that it can support
Windows Vista. I would like to apologize that you have to go through
this issue on your sound card.
However, based upon your product's date of purchase 27/4/2003, it
appears you're beyond the complementary telephone (60 days) and e-mail
( year) support period.
If you are covered under a Creative Care Protection Plan (CCPP) and are
within the warranty and service coverage of your plan, please reply back
with the e-mail address the plan was purchased under, as well as your
CCPP order and reference number.
If you are beyond your complimentary support period and not covered by a
Creative Care Protection Plan, there are helpful support options that
are still available to you.
. You may take advantage of our free web support services by visiting
www.**bleep**.com to access the following resources:
Knowledge Base of expert solutions, frequently asked questions, and
reference material
Download drivers and application updates
Auto update will automatically detect and download the latest updates
for you (not available for all products)
Product documentation
Tutorials
User-to-user customer discussion forums
2. You can purchase a Creative Tutor session to receive expert help and
advice from a Technical Advisor by phone. Each Creative Tutor session
is only $2.99 and covers one support issue for up to 30 minutes. To
start, simply call -405-707-8777 Monday through Friday from 9AM until
6PM Central Time. Please have your credit card ready when calling.
3. If you believe you product is in need of repair and wish to simply
pay for an out of warranty repair, you're welcome to reply to this
message to request an out of warranty repair. Simply confirm your
product's name, model number, serial number and an advisor will provide
you with a repair quote and instructions on how to safely ship your
product to Creative.
4. You may utilize 3rd party on-line forums and discussion groups that
can be found using on-line search engines.
However, you may want to download and install the updated driver and
software applications from our download site which is more compatible
with your Windows Vista.
DOWNLOAD LINK: http://us.creative.com//support/downloads/
-Select ?Product Type? + ?Product Categories? + ?Product Name?, once you
have select your product option, select the ?file type? + ? Language? +
? Operating system?.
If you would like to search for additional solutions and for future
references, you can search through our Knowledge Base website, http://us.creative.com/support/kb.
Again, I apologize for the complications that you have experienced and I
understand where you're coming from. Meanwhile, you might want to take
advantage of our products and accessories.
Bring out the vibrancy in your entire music playback with the Creative
Aurvana Live! Headphones. Lightweight and ergonomically designed, the
Aurvana Live! is perfect for listening to music on the move or for your
home entertainment use. Constructed with revolutionary driver technology
and in-depth acoustic tuning, it deli'vers a natural and faithful audio
presentation akin to a li've performance. Sharp transients and dynamic
passages are handled with effortless finesse. For realistic music
listening, look to the Aurvana Li've! today.
For more information regarding our accessories please refer to this
link:
http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp
Thank you for choosing Creative Labs.
Sincerely,
**removed**
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas
Original Message Follows:
==================================
Subject: CLI - Technical Support Request - (Audigy 2 Platinum)
Self Description: Advanced PC User
Region: Americas
Country: United States of America
Support Inquiry: ID(5) I need help with a third-party software
application
Product: Audigy 2 Platinum
CCPP Certificate Number:
Serial Number:
Purchase Date: 27/4/2003
Operating System: Windows Vista 32-bit
Creative Model Number:
Computer Brand/Model:
Processor/CPU:
Memory:
BIOS Type/Revision:
System Board/Chipset:
Detailed Problem Description:
When do you plan on releasing updated drivers for the Audigy 2 line
which will support Vista and be compatable with the Service Pack
installation? (The lack of up to date drivers currently prohibits
upgrading to SP according to Microsoft) Thank you.
==================================
*Please remove the names of our email advisors per the forum rules. Dale-CL
Message Edited by Dale-CL on 03-26-2008 2:0 PM To anyone at Creative who might be reading this,
I recently submitted the following question to Creative email support: "When do you plan on releasing updated drivers for the Audigy 2 line which will support Vista and be compatable with the Service Pack installation? (The lack of up to date drivers currently prohibitsupgrading to SP according to Microsoft) Thank you."
In return, I received the email below. As a long time supporter of your company, I'd like your team at Creative to know that this canned, non-reply pretty much guarantees that I will never buy another Creative product again. The notion that a simple email query can't be answered if it's more than a year after the purchase date is laughable. Especially when it's related to your company failing to keep up to date with the roll-out of one of the most common operating systems in the world.
Thank you for so clearly indicating the little regard with which you hold your customers.
----- Original Message ----
From: Creative Americas Customer Support < [email protected]>
Dear _,
Thank you for contacting Creative Labs regarding your Audigy 2 Platinum.
From the detailed description provided; I understand you wanted to know
when will updated drivers for Audigy 2 be release so that it can support
Windows Vista. I would like to apologize that you have to go through
this issue on your sound card.
However, based upon your product's date of purchase 27/4/2003, it
appears you're beyond the complementary telephone (60 days) and e-mail
( year) support period.
If you are covered under a Creative Care Protection Plan (CCPP) and are
within the warranty and service coverage of your plan, please reply back
with the e-mail address the plan was purchased under, as well as your
CCPP order and reference number.
If you are beyond your complimentary support period and not covered by a
Creative Care Protection Plan, there are helpful support options that
are still available to you.
1. You may take advantage of our free web support services by visiting
www.**bleep**.com to access the following resources:
Knowledge Base of expert solutions, frequently asked questions, and
reference material
Download drivers and application updates
Auto update will automatically detect and download the latest updates
for you (not available for all products)
Product documentation
Tutorials
User-to-user customer discussion forums
2. You can purchase a Creative Tutor session to receive expert help and
advice from a Technical Advisor by phone. Each Creative Tutor session
is only $2.99 and covers one support issue for up to 30 minutes. To
start, simply call -405-707-8777 Monday through Friday from 9AM until
6PM Central Time. Please have your credit card ready when calling.
3. If you believe you product is in need of repair and wish to simply
pay for an out of warranty repair, you're welcome to reply to this
message to request an out of warranty repair. Simply confirm your
product's name, model number, serial number and an advisor will provide
you with a repair quote and instructions on how to safely ship your
product to Creative.
4. You may utilize 3rd party on-line forums and discussion groups that
can be found using on-line search engines.
However, you may want to download and install the updated driver and
software applications from our download site which is more compatible
with your Windows Vista.
DOWNLOAD LINK: http://us.creative.com//support/downloads/
-Select Product Type + Product Categories + Product Name, once you
have select your product option, select the file type + Language +
Operating system?.
If you would like to search for additional solutions and for future
references, you can search through our Knowledge Base website, http://us.creative.com/support/kb.
Again, I apologize for the complications that you have experienced and I
understand where you're coming from. Meanwhile, you might want to take
advantage of our products and accessories.
Bring out the vibrancy in your entire music playback with the Creative
Aurvana Live! Headphones. Lightweight and ergonomically designed, the
Aurvana Live! is perfect for listening to music on the move or for your
home entertainment use. Constructed with revolutionary driver technology
and in-depth acoustic tuning, it deli'vers a natural and faithful audio
presentation akin to a li've performance. Sharp transients and dynamic
passages are handled with effortless finesse. For realistic music
listening, look to the Aurvana Live! today.
For more information regarding our accessories please refer to this
link:
http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?
Thank you for choosing Creative Labs.
Sincerely,
**removed**
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas
Original Message Follows:
==================================
Subject: CLI - Technical Support Request - (Audigy 2 Platinum)
Self Description: Advanced PC User
Region: Americas
Country: United States of America
Support Inquiry: ID(5) I need help with a third-party software
application
Product: Audigy 2 Platinum
CCPP Certificate Number:
Serial Number:
Purchase Date: 27/4/2003
Operating System: Windows Vista 32-bit
Creative Model Number:
Computer Brand/Model:
Processor/CPU:
Memory:
BIOS Type/Revision:
System Board/Chipset:
Detailed Problem Description:
When do you plan on releasing updated drivers for the Audigy 2 line
which will support Vista and be compatable with the Service Pack
installation? (The lack of up to date drivers currently prohibits
upgrading to SP according to Microsoft) Thank you.
==================================
*Please remove the names of our email advisors per the forum rules. Dale-CL
Message Edited by Dale-CL on 03-26-2008 12:10 PM

Boz968 wrote:
Looks to me like they gave you very good advice and places to look to solve your problem yourself.
Please suggest to us how you would resolve this problem with any of those resources? This is a known compatibility problem between Audigy series soundcards (amongst others) which can only be resolved with updated drivers which have not been written yet. It affects both recently purchased cards and older ones. In the future, I would suggest becoming more familiar with the problem before jumping in with comments (also reading the original post helps).

I will never buy another HP Product Again!

I tried to get some help with an issue that I have been having and could not decide where the issue fit best so I posted it over multiple areas ... NOT to SPAM, but because it did not fit into anyone area ... here it is listed below;
I have a HP Pavilion a6152n PC purchased in Sept. 07, running 32 bit Vista
For a while my web cam worked fine, but now, while I can see the web cam, those on-line using such services any Skype and Yahoo. can NOT.
The audio continues work fine and CAN be heard by the other party ... the problem is with the video.
I even bought a new web cam thinking maybe it was a problem with the cam, but the same problem repeats on THREE different web cams, one microsoft and two Logitech, so if must be some kind of software(hardware) problem with the computer.
I am hoping it is an easy fix ... I just have no idea what it is, Please help!
Thanks so much and have a good day!
Not one area ... could be hardware, could be software, could be 'other' ... I wanted to get as many eyes as I could so maybe someone would have a solution.
No solutions from HP ... just my posts locked.
That is NOT the kind of customer support that I deserve and I will be taking my future business to other providers.
My suggestion is that HP have both more help and more respect for its clientele.
Thank you for reading this!
Message Edited by Clyatt on 06-01-2009 05:16 PM

I have had problems with HP from day one and HP would not-could not solve my problem so I lived with it for several years. After intensive searching for help from HP, I took my HP products off line and bought a Brother AIO and booted it up and guess what....IT WORKED PERFECTLY the first time. It finally scanned to Word and I could edit my files. NEVER could do that wtih the HP G85 AIO which was very expensive and the HP 2400 PhotoJet which was expensive at the time. Not only would HP refuse to help me solve the problems with my AIOs, HP wanted money UPFRONT just to ascertain what might be the problem. I have had my home office setup for consulting but was limited as to what I could do with the HP products but now I am certain that with the Brother, I can do all I need to make clients happy and bring in an income. I, too, will never buy another HP product again. And by the way, Wendy, get the hell off the forum....you are an HP employer and are as useless as your products. You should be solving our problems with your products rather than talking gibberish.

Want to buy another creative cloud lisence, but can't find the serial number one the present one?

want to buy another creative cloud lisence, but can't find the serial number one the present one?

There are no serial numbers with CC and it's not in any way relevant to the matter at hand. There are no extra discounts just because you already own a CC license.
Mylenium

Until Sony repairs my effects unit as promised then reneged on I won't ever buy another sony product

Sony manufactured a guitar effects unit. My studio bought two at NAMM as professional recording engineers. Right out of the gate, they went bad. Sony promised to repair them and they did. The problem was not resolved. The reason is it was defectively designed with a memory battery soldered in instead of with a replaceable battery receptacle. I sent it back AGAIN and they promised to repair it. Well the big Sony mother ship sent it back said sorry out of warranty, unless you PAY the price essentially of a new unit since it was discontinued you are out of luck!! They just sent it back and it never worked. Essentially it was a defective design with Sonys poor attempt to get into commercial recording. It was a good unit when it worked! Until Sony repairs the unit, I will never buy any Sony product again nor have I, nor will anyone in our circle studio etc. nothing no computers nothing nor have we. It's their loss! We have one old computer left that is sony and after that dues we will have purged everything sony. Again their loss because we had an entire office full of song equipment, headsets, computers, recording gear, all purged!! You don't stand by your products, we won't invest in them!

annoyed2,
Why not send me a private message with your contact information (name, address, phone#) and the system model type and serial number from the bottom (i.e. 7763CTO, L3-A1234) and also the FRU# on your battery.
I'll look into this and see what can be done. Sorry to hear that your recent experiences have soured you a bit on ThinkPad.
I hope we can restore your confidence.
Best regards,
Mark
ThinkPads: S30, T43, X60t, X1, W700ds, IdeaPad Y710, IdeaCentre: A300, IdeaPad K1
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I won't buy a Creative's product in my l

I'm a Linux's user and I won't buy a product from your company in my life, your attitude with us is embarrassing.
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=6332&view= by_date_ascending&page=?
Sorry for my bad english.

Yeah, I believe so.
Well...you need to find out for sure, however, try this: On the computer you're now using, launch iTunes, Store>Authorize this computer. Then connect your phone, File>Transfer Purchases. Does this get the song in your iTunes library?

I trigue 3300 one channel out. i will never purchase another creative product

like so many other customers, i have channel very low level and distorted. with gobs of glue splattered all over the circuit board, its impossible to troubleshoot. all we have asked of you is to give us an idea of the possible faulty component. with absolutely no input from the tech support, leaves me no options but to throw these speakers in a land fill. not only will i never buy another ceati've product, i will tell every friend, family member and customer of mine to do the same.
customer service is a key to customer satisfaction and loyalty. when you have a good experience with a product or company, you most likely won't tell anyone. but when you have bad experiences, you tell as many people who will listen. for years to come, i wll shout about the poor customer service and inferiority of your products.

Hi jedirabbi, thank you for your message. I apologize for the bad experience. Let me send you a private message regarding this notice. Regards,

I will never buy a Creative product ag

I have my Zen Sleek since October, and I have been quite pleased with it until a week ago. My new computer will NOT detect the Sleek. I have installed and reinstalled drivers over and over again and I can not get it to work. The player gets detected on 2/4 computers in my house. It just won't on 2 of them. I don't understand this...
I have browsed this board for solutions, and I only find people with the same problem. It is absolutely unacceptable that Creative refuses to adress this situation. I will also encourage people I know to not buy Creative products. I am completely dumbfounded by the lack of support on this matter, that affects more people than you might think.

My rage has been appeased. Forgive me for my outburst.
After a long search in the forums, I found a fix for the problem. It worked just fine... I hope everyone that has this problem sees this post, or you guys could add the information to the first post on the Sticky.
DM wrote:
http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/54685/fixup.zip
Download this file. Extract it to whatever folder you like. Run the fixup.cmd program. A DOS window will open up and start displaying info on what its doing. When its finished it will instruct you to remove the player from Device Manager and reconnect it. Do this and see if it works.

Why I will never buy another HP Laptop

So I guess I'll try Dell next, but unfortunately I still have to struggle with this hunk-o-junk I bought from HP for at least another year.
Model: HP Pavilion dv8 1103TX
I've had so many issues, especially after 2 years, it's like HP designed the thing to start breaking after 2-years of 8hours/day usage.
Problems include:
Quick-Launch Keys that have a mind of their own (rendering my wifi & bluetooth useless, since the keys switch them on/off at random) Took the laptop to the HP repair centre for this problem on the last day of it's warranty, and they ended up replacing the wrong part. (The speaker cover, instead of the Quick-Launch Keys) After that my laptop was out of warranty and they refused to take it again without me paying for the repairs. The quick-launch button issue continues.
Charger issues - this is the one problem I've ALWAYS had with all my HP's, their chargers die after 2 years, like clockwork, like it was designed to do so, 4 co-workers/family got HP's more or less the same time as I did and we all started shopping for replacements chargers at the same time.
Endless other related power issues - The laptop would be charging but not know it, thinking it's running on battery, forcing me to change all my power schemes so that the system performance isn't affected. And when the laptop is charging, don't dare disconnect it, because it will not resume charging easily. (Note that this still happens at random even after replacing the battery and the charger)
Finger-print reader - Must be disabled else SSMS (SQL Server Management Studio) is unstable as hell and crashes for every second query you run. Too random? That's what I thought but Google it to check me up. Once I disabled the finger-print reader, SSMS worked like a charm.
Don't ever, EVER, buy HP Laptops!

I, too, will never buy another HP. I have had 3 laptops in 7 years. My first was a dell and it worked well, but the harddrives crashed. I switched to HP mainly due to high ratings from Consumer Reports. It worked well for two years then I began to have problems on boot up. I decided to replace it before it crashed or further deteriorated. That's when I purchased my G-70 in fall of 2008. I have been pleased with the product, but am dismayed to know HP had knowledge of issues with its hinges. I, unfortunately, didn't know this until I began to experience the problem with my hinges and did a bit of research. I was even more dismayed to know the problem with my first HP was due bad motherboards and heat issues. I was never informed of the motherboard problem and subsequently missed the deadline to have my computer repaired. These are the reasons I am no longer a loyal HP customer

Avoid Buying Any Creative Product Not Still In Production, If At All.

I'm seriously annoyed at creative.
I highly recommend if you are a looking for a new webcam, or any hardware at all which requires drivers, you should definitly look elsewhere..
I'm happy to say companies like logitech, m-audio, etc actually bother to spend time in investing in new driver updates to optimise compatibility.
I'm disgusted to learn that due to my choice of upgrading to windows x64, I am no longer able to use a web camera I payed 45 pounds for, the webcam NX pro. The reason for this is quite simply, because they do not sell it anymore, they cannot make anymore money and because people have already bought the cam and some people like me are stuck with a useless investment, they couldn't give a **bleeped** because we already payed for a useless item. I am never buying from creative again. Granted their new soundcards are good, the drivers as they standard are incredibly poor, but to not release them at all is disgusting.. It's shameful and it demonstrates an absolute lack of commitment to after sales care or commitment to customers.
Definitly choose logitech or m-audio, 00% if you are using anything other than windows xp, because creative will NOT support your product and you will have wasted a fat load of cash to fill their pockets for insubstantiated and poorly supported products.
Message Edited by Daniel-CL on 04-27-2006 10:37 AM

Hi there. I have a similar problem with my X-Fi Platinum. When I play any audio file and move any of the windows
around I get static noise. I've been trying to get rid of the static for a while. I run windows vista 32 and the latest
driver update for X-Fi (SBXF_PCDRV_LB_2_5_0006) wih 4Gb of ram. I resolved the crackling issue on my computer partially, and it seems to work fine.
- I have installed the "SBXF_PCDRV_LB_2_5_0006" update first
- Then open the Control Panel and click on Audio Console
- Open the Mode section and choose Audio Creation Mode
- Then check "Enable Bit-Matched Playback" and close
Now if I play any audio and move around any windows, I don't hear the static. Unfortunately if you switch
to Game Mode or to Entertainment Mode, you get the static back
This is a temporary fix which I can li've with. Hope it helps you.

Zen Vision M - I am never buying another Creative MP3 Product aga

For years I bought their MP3 players because it's obvivous it has the better sound quality, but the **bleep**ty support, endless firmware issues and crappy software just makes me want to take a sledge hammer to the **bleep**. Its obvivous that both the Apple IPOD and the ZEN Vision M has issues. But it does not appear that either company seems interested in fixing the problems. IPOD - Crappy Sound.ZEN Vision M - Crappy software and crappy firmware.
Maybe Creative should get together with Apple and make a great sounding visually pleasing IPOD. Until then my MP3 days are over, but it was great while it lasted.Message Edited by Dane on 04-07-20070:30 PM
Message Edited by Dane on 04-07-20070:3 PM
Message Edited by Dane on 04-07-20070:3 PM

So I gotta say... I have to agree a bit! I had so many problems with my Zen vision:m and felt that the ipod was just a stupid option. I then desided to try and li've with it and make the best of having such a adapting machine... I now have made my own ecosystem with Urge and windows media player! It works great and I have just been up on the Customer service intill they gave me good service. I am now doing great and wish that creative would make more updates... but I will li've!

HT2534 There is no "NONE" option under credit card.. looks like I'm never going to buy another apple product again.

NO option for no card in the credit card page.. The no credit card option doesn't exist.. can't operate device unless I give the apple commies a credit card.. Guess I'll go buy a $5 green dot at walmart and spend it on something ABSOLUTLY NOT crapple apple just so I can download one free app to this horrible clunky Iphone 4 brick of annoying so I can use it as a simple wifi phone..
PRO TIP apple.. I didn't have to give a credit card info so I could use my Android.. this is such headache to do a simple task.. and why do I get a prompt to put in my password every 2 screens.. it can't even remember that I ticked the check in REMEMBER MY INFO box.. lame apple glad I roll something else less bulky and cavemanish.. I know it won't get fixed..been here done this..

If you want free apps without providing a credit card, just follow the steps in the article exactly, creating a new Apple ID in the process. You cannot use an existing Apple ID. As to the password issue, given how many people complain that they purchased something when they didn't mean to, or their kids bought something without authorization, it's no surprise that Apple requires verification relatively often.
I don't understand your whine about having to buy an app to use the iPhone. There are no app purchases required. Many people go quite happily using just the apps included with the iPhone without every buying anything extra. So I don't get your point.
Otherwise, we're all basically just fellow users here and really don't care what you buy or don't buy. If you believe some other device and service will suit you better, by all means to buy that product.
Regards.

Why can't i buy a creative mp3 player in a normal retail sto

i find it really rather disturbing that creative mp3 players are not more widely available in normal retail stores. i li've in one of the top 0 major metropolitan cities in the USA and i go into my local best buy and all they have is a 5GB micro, a 20GB xtra, and a 20GB(?) touch. why is that all they have? if i want a MUVO, i'm screwed. meanwhile that same best buy has every style, size, and color of all the ipod crap and a million accessories (bleh) but NOTHING for creative. the only micro they have is the black one, and only in the 5GB size. i go to another place like Staples, and they have the muvo TX, no micros.
I go next door the the compusa, they've got a full lineup of all the ypod crap, nothing from creative.
i find it really irritating when one wants to say, buy a player for a friend and cannot find what they are looking for. makes it real easy to buy the freaking ypods. ugh.

steveski wrote:
hey blood, you're completely missing my point... I KNOW i can order them online at a million places.
the poster that said they don't want to compete with prices, that's insane. there would be NO STORES anywhere if stores were really afraid of that. internet prices are lower for EVERYTHING.
my point is i guess, why don't stores stock more stuff from creative (other then soundblaster stuff)? the answer to my own question is probably that creative stuff does not sell as well as ipod stuff.
the reason i say this is a friend of mine was heading out of town and was interesting in getting an mp3 player for the trip so i suggested he might look into the new creative MIX thingy but we everywhere we looked they had nothing, so the dolt ended up getting an ipod shuffle. oh well. we lost another one due to players just not being in the stores. sad!
I bought my zen micro from a retail store.. In canada. In holland in the one electronics store they have the touch,3 colors of micro, 2 muvo players, and a Xtra. They only had the ipod mini...

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