Why is my Spry menu so slow in IE?

Hallo all
I'm a novice web designer. We're re-designing our very
outdated travel website. The old site
used (still uses...) images in its dropdown menu. I was very
excited to discover the Spry
widgets and it was one of the main reasons we upgraded our
old DW MX to DW CS3.
I started building the drop-down menu and found the going
relatively easy. The menu is very
extensive (lots of menu items) and I do realise that there
are more effective approaches.
But given our limited in-house skills we have to go with what
we can manage and maintain.
Our main aim is to help prospective clients get to what
they're looking for with the least
possible clicks.
I hit a wall when I started previewing the menu in IE7 (my
main browser is FF). I was able
to sort out layout and placing issues, but I'm stumped by
IE's slow rendering of the
submenus... Once again, I do realise that the menu is heavy
in content. But why does FF
render it so quickly then? In IE, when I mouse-over a
top-level menu item a little animated
circle in the IE7 tab indicates that it's processing
information (?), a full five seconds
elapses before the submenu appears, mouse-over an item on
that submenu and it's once again 5
secs before the 2 / 3d level appears. The 'tours &
safaris' menu is the most extensive (with
more items to come once I sort this issue out), but even the
'destination guides' submenu
-which is very light at present- takes that long to render.
I've uploaded DW's temp preview file to our server at
http://www.afrilux.co.za/test/TMPxf5z5fcvjz.htm
When DW creates the preview file it works the site's style
sheet, as well as the Sprymenu
CSS, into the html file, so all of that is in the above file.
The SpryMenuBar.js file is at
http://www.afrilux.co.za/test/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBar.js
I don't remember changing anything in this file though.
My main issue, on which I would much appreciate some help is
WHY IS IE RENDERING THE MENU SO
SLOWLY AND IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO TO ADDRESS IT?
Thanks for your effort!
Mike
P.S. While I would dearly like to get the present menu to
function normally in IE, I am open
to alternative suggestions that is viable for a
non-expert.

Karonz, thanks for the reply and the trouble you took to hack
a bit at my menu. It is much appreciated.
It looks like the performance in IE is slightly better, but
I'm afraid in my opinion it is still too slow.
In short I've decided to make use of the programme suggested
by Al Sparber above. I do realise that he is co-owner of the
company that produces and markets the suggested programme (PMM2).
However, I've had a look at PPM2 and I believe it's my best option
right now. I suspect there's one or two things in the programme
that I would have liked differently. But the important thing is
that, having played around with it for a day, my menu seems to
render (very) quickly in both FF and IE - despite its size (i.e.
the large amount of items in my menu). PPM2 menu's also detect the
edge of the screen and prevents the menu from leaving the screen -
rather opening submenu's to the opposite side. This is the kind of
functionality that I don't believe the Spry Menu's even come close
to.
I'm very disappointed that DW CS3 ships / shipped with a
pre-release Spry. One of the things that convinced me to upgrade
from MX was the believe that CS3 could easily create text-based
dynamic menus. I spent a lot of time building the menu (not yet
complete) before I discovered that it rendered so slowly in IE. My
impression is that any menu with a number of items above a certain
threshold is automatically going to render slowly in IE. I realise
that the main problem is with IE. However, it is the dominant
browser and I'm disappointed that Spry's menu seems not to be up to
the task.
I'm looking forward to the day when Spry is stable. For now,
I'm fearing trying out another Spry widget - how much time will I
waste on the next widget?
I'll be blogging on my experience with PPM2 soon and will put
a link in the thread at that time. Another (free) alternative I
looked at was "Son of Suckerfish", which seemed promising. I just
don't have the time to build and style another CSS menu from
scratch and thus could not fully test it. But if you have time and
want to play around with it go to:
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
PPM2, the menu that has worked wonders for me so far
(compared to my struggle up to now) is a Project Seven product,
which you'll find at
http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm2/index.htm.
I installed it easily as an extension to Dreamweaver and have been
using it, albeit for a short time, inside Dreamweaver CS3. I trust
this may be of help to someone!

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        color: #afa06f;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
          background-color: #f5f5e8;
        color: #afa06f;
    SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
    /* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
        position: absolute;
        z-index: 1010;
        filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
        background: transparent;
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
        ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
            display: inline;
            f\loat: left;
            background: #FFF;

  • Spry Menu Bar 2.0 (1.0) - Handling of widget generated CSS, placement and rendering problems in CSS

    Hello:
    I wanted to repost my question to re-frame the issue based on what I have learned thus far.
    I am working on a website that has been developed using the Spry Menu Bar Framework UI (2.0) I.0, that has some peculiar rendering problems that affect IE 6 in particular.  The CSS is reprinted below.
    In particular, when I post the widget generated CSS in the head as it is orginally situated by the framework, the menu bar works fine.  However, it seemed to me that I should be able to reduce page weight (an important consideration considering my target population) by placing it in the general style sheet governing the entire site.
    When I place the styles at the beginning of the style sheet the menu doesn't render at all in any of the browsers (IE 6+, Firefox, Opera, Safari, Netscape, etc.) as it conflicts with the general rules governing links that appear later in the style sheet.  When I place the styles specific to the Menu bar at the end of the style sheet, then the menu bar renders properly in all browsers except IE 6.
    The odd thing is that the only way to ensure that the menu bar works in IE 6 is to keep the menu related styles in the head of each page.  This raises problems related to page weight (not an insurmountable consideration if no other solution can be found) but still an issue.  Likewise I need to support IE 6, again given the target audience/population.  The issue obviously has something to do with specificity, but I am not certain that is the only consideration at work here.  I have not tried the !important selector in regard to the menu, as IE 6 seems to only partially support this.
    Thanks in advance for any advice or insight that can be provided.  Thanks in particular to Martin for his contributions to my earlier question related to this issue.
    Steve Webster.
    The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows:  (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
    <style type="text/css">
    /*  -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles --  */
    /* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
    /* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
       these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
         These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
       .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
        .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
       You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
        They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
            MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
            MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
            MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned. 
            MenuBarFixedCentered -  - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                            and centered in its parent container.
            MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
        In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
       with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
        there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
    #MenuBar  {
        background-color:transparent;
       font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                    MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                    at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                    Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                    so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                    100% on submenu fonts. */
        font-weight: normal;
        font-size: 17px;
        font-style: normal;
        padding:0;
    /* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
    widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
    in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
    .MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
        display:none;
    .MenuBarLeftShrink {
        float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarRightShrink {
        float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarFixedLeft {
        float: left;
        width: 80em;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered {
        float: none;
        width: 80em;
        margin-left:auto;
        margin-right:auto;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered br {
        clear:both;
        display:block;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
        display:none;
    .MenuBarFullwidth {
        float: left;
        width: 100%;
    /* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemContainer {
        padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
        margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin  on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                    For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                    or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                    Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem {
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
        background-color:#000088;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;       
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:center;
        line-height:1.4em;
        color:#ffffff;
        background-color:transparent;
        padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
        width: 10em;
        width:auto;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
    /* First level submenu items */
    #MenuBar .SubMenu  .MenuItem {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-weight: bold;
        font-size: 15px;
        font-style: normal;
        background-color:#000088;
        padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
        border-width:0px;
        border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
        /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
        border-style: solid solid none solid;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none;
        padding: 0px;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-top: 0px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-bottom: 10px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:left;
        line-height:1em;   
        background-color:transparent;
        color:#ffffff;
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
        width: 240px;
    /* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
        background-color: #2E35A3;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
        background-color:#2E35A3;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    /* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
    #MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
       min-width:0%;  /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
        top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
        left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                        and your personal taste.
                       0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                        on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                        menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                        the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
        z-index:10;
    #MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
        top: 0px;   
        left:100%;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
    /* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
    #MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
        top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                    that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                    vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
        left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                    negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                    to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
    /* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
    /* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
    * Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
    * giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
    * Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
    * all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
    * problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
    * Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
    * syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
    * it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
    * So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule.  We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
    * mistakenly override, making sure the  misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
    * We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
    * the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
    * css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
    * If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
    * The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu  /* IE6 selector  */{
        margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
    /* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
    /* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
    </style>
    The CSS governing the site generally is reproduced below:  (my belief is that it is the a:link, a:visited,  a:hover, a:active styles that may be in conflict).
    @charset "utf-8";
    body  {
        font: 100% Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
       min-height: 0; /* This is necessary to overcome the "haslayout" bugthat is found in Windows 7 in conjuction with IE8.  For Moreinformation see: URL -- http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/haslayout.html */
        margin: 0; /* it's good practice to zero the margin and padding of the body element to account for differing browser defaults */
        padding: 0;
        text-align:center; /* This allows for the centering of the container and overcomes a bug inherent in IE 5 */
        color: #000000;
        list-style-image: none;
        background-color: #FCFCFC;
    h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
    color:#000066;
    a:link {
        color: #151A96;
        text-decoration: underline;
    a:visited {
        text-decoration: underline;
        color: #1B8DCD;
    a:hover {
        text-decoration: none;
        color: #F30A0A;
    a:active {
        text-decoration: underline;
        color: #151A96;
    #container {
        width: 960px;   
        margin: 0 auto; /* the auto margins (in conjunction with a width) center the page */
        text-align: left; /* this overrides the text-align: center on the body element. */
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Midsection %20_960.png);
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
    #header {
           padding: 0;  /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elementsin the divs that appear beneath it. If an image is used in the #headerinstead of text, you may want to remove the padding. */
            width:960px;
            height:332px;
            background-image:
            url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Header_960 .png);
            background-repeat:no-repeat;
    #header h1 {
        margin-right: 0px; /* zeroing the margin of the last element in the #header div will avoid margin collapse - an unexplainable space between divs. If the div has a border around it, this is not necessary as that also avoids the margin collapse */
        padding: 0; /* using padding instead of margin will allow you to keep the element away from the edges of the div */
        display:none;
    #header img {
        display: none;
    #Main_nav_contents {
        padding: 0;
        margin-top: 0px;
        height: 39px;
        width: 950px;       
        padding-top: 275px; 
        padding-left: 39px;
        z-index: 3; 
    #MenuBarVertical {
        margin-bottom: 50px;
        padding-top: 50px;
        padding-bottom:200px;
        padding-left: 15px;
        padding-right: 15px;
    .mainContent_left {
       margin: 0;/* the right margin on this div element creates the columndown the right side of the page - no matter how much content thesidebar1 div contains, the column space will remain. You can removethis margin if you want the #mainContent div's text to fill the#sidebar1 space when the content in #sidebar1 ends. */
        padding-left:30px;
        padding-right:20px; /* remember that padding is the space inside the div box and margin is the space outside the div box */
        width: 600px;
        float: left;
    .sidebar_right {
        float: right; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
        width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
        margin-top: 30px;
        margin-left:0;
        margin-right:10px;
        font-size:90%;
    .mainContent_right {
        margin-left: 10px;
        padding-left:30px;
        padding-right:20px;
        width: 600px;
        float: right;
    .sidebar_left {
        float: left; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
        width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
        margin-top: 30px;
        margin-left:30px;
        margin-right:0;
        overflow: hidden;
        font-size:90%;
    .main_content_centered {
        width: 650px;
        margin-left: 155px;
    .main_content_centered_header {
        margin-left: 75px;
    .sidebar_textbox {
        margin: 0px;   
        width: 260px;
        padding: 2px;
    .sidebar_textbox_header {
        width:255px;
        height:58px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Header.png);
    .sidebar_textbox_background_middle {
         width: 255px;   
        padding-top: 12px;   
        padding-bottom: 10px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
    .sidebar_textbox_content {
       /* The width and padding are set as follows to accomodate quirks inbrowser rendering and to ensure that text is contained within thebackground of the text box */
        width: 230px;
        padding-left: 20px;
        padding-right: 40px;
    .sidebar_textbox_footer {
        width:255px;
        height:64px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Port rait%20Textbox%20Footer.png);
    #issues_menu a:link {
        color: #151A96;
        text-decoration: none;
        font-weight:bold;
    #issues_menu a:visited {
        color: #151A96;
        font-weight:bold;
        text-decoration: none;
    #issues_menu a:hover {   
        color: #F30A0A;
        font-weight:bold;
        font-style: oblique;
        text-decoration: none;
    #issues_menu a:active {
        color: #151A96;
        font-weight:bold;
        text-decoration: none;
    #archives {
        padding-top: 15px;
        padding-right: 15px;
        padding-bottom: 20px;
        padding-left: 0px;
    .landscape_textbox {
        width: 500px;
        margin-right: 0px;
        margin-left: 30px;
        padding-top:35px;
        padding-bottom: 25px;
        font-style: normal;
        font-weight: normal;
    .landscape_textbox_hdr {
        width:500px;
        height:38px;
        margin:auto;
        padding:0;
        background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%2 0Header.png);
    .landscape_textbox_middle {
        width:auto;
        margin:auto;
        padding-top: 12px;
        padding-bottom: 12px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/lan dscapte%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-y;
    .landscape_textbox_content {
        width:450px;
        padding:25px;
    .landscape_textbox_ftr {
        width:500px;
        height:44px;
        margin:auto;
        padding:0;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Lan dscape%20Textbox%20Footer.png);
    #footer {
        padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear above it. */
        width: 960px;
        height: 222px;
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Footer%20_ 960.png);
        background-repeat:no-repeat;
    #footer p {
       margin: 0px; /* zeroing the margins of the first element in the footerwill avoid the possibility of margin collapse - a space between divs */
        padding:0px; /* padding on this element will create space, just as the the margin would have, without the margin collapse issue */
        text-align:center;
        margin-left: 50px;
        margin-right: 50px;
        padding: 10px;
        font-size: small;
    #footer h5 {
    text-align:center;
    .fltrt { /* this class can be used to float an element right in your page. The floated element must precede the element it should be next to on the page. */
        float: right;
        margin-left: 8px;
    .fltlft { /* this class can be used to float an element left in your page */
        float: left;
        margin-right: 8px;
    .clearfloat { /* this class should be placed on a div or break element and should be the final element before the close of a container that should fully contain a float */
        clear:both;
        height:0;
        font-size: 1px;
        line-height: 0px;
    .dropcap {
        display: block;
        float: left;
        line-height: 80%;
        font-size: 250%;
        font-weight: bolder;
        color: #000066;   
        padding: .03em .1em 0 0;
    .red_arrows {
        list-style-position: outside;
        list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Arrow%20Large.png);    
    .blue_bullets {
        list-style-position: outside;
        list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Bullet%20Medium%20Fu ll.png);   
    .attention {
        color: #F30A0A;
        font-size:x-large;
        font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
        font-style: italic;
        font-weight:900;
    .attention_small {
        color: #F30A0A;
        font-size:large;
        font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
        font-style: italic;
        font-weight:900;
    .table {
        table-layout:fixed;
    .blue {
        color: #00F;
    #container .mainContent_left p .blue {
        color: #0303A0;

    Hi Nancy:
    The specific code that I am referring to is the CSS code governing the styling of the spry menu widget that only works in IE 6 if, and only if, it remains in the head of the web page.  If removed and placed in a stylesheet, the IE plugins fail to compensate for the IE 6 "gap" bug.  As I said, it doesn't make sense to me that, assuming specificity is addressed, that these can not be included in an external style sheet.  I am looking for a) an explanation why they must remain embedded in the web page; and 2) any means by which I might be able to export them.
    I will reproduce the specific css style (code) below:  it should also be visable through reveal source --
    Thanks again, Steve Webster.
    The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows:  (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
    <style type="text/css">
    /*  -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles --  */
    /* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
    /* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
       these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
         These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
       .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
        .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
       You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
        They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
            MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
            MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
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            MenuBarFixedCentered -  - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
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            MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
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       with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
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                                                    MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                    at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                    Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                    so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                    100% on submenu fonts. */
        font-weight: normal;
        font-size: 17px;
        font-style: normal;
        padding:0;
    /* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
    widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
    in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
    .MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
        display:none;
    .MenuBarLeftShrink {
        float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarRightShrink {
        float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarFixedLeft {
        float: left;
        width: 80em;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered {
        float: none;
        width: 80em;
        margin-left:auto;
        margin-right:auto;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered br {
        clear:both;
        display:block;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
        display:none;
    .MenuBarFullwidth {
        float: left;
        width: 100%;
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    #MenuBar  .MenuItemContainer {
        padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
        margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin  on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                    For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                    or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
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        padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
        background-color:#000088;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
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        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:center;
        line-height:1.4em;
        color:#ffffff;
        background-color:transparent;
        padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
        width: 10em;
        width:auto;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
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    #MenuBar .SubMenu  .MenuItem {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-weight: bold;
        font-size: 15px;
        font-style: normal;
        background-color:#000088;
        padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
        border-width:0px;
        border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
        /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
        border-style: solid solid none solid;
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        border-style: none;
        padding: 0px;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-top: 0px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-bottom: 10px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:left;
        line-height:1em;   
        background-color:transparent;
        color:#ffffff;
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
        width: 240px;
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    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
        background-color: #2E35A3;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;
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        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
        background-color:#2E35A3;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
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    #MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
       min-width:0%;  /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
        border-style: none none none none;
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        top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
        left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                        and your personal taste.
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                        on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                        menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                        the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
        z-index:10;
    #MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
        top: 0px;   
        left:100%;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
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    #MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
        top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                    that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                    vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
        left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                    negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                    to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
    /* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
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    * Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
    * giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
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    * all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
    * problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
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    * syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
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    * the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
    * css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
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    * The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
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        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector  */{
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        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu  /* IE6 selector  */{
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    /* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
    /* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
    </style>

  • Spry Menu Bar 2.0 and positioning of arrows

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  • Spry Menu Appears different in IE8 and IE7

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All rights reserved. */ /******************************************************************************* LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order *******************************************************************************/ /* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */ ul.MenuBarHorizontal { margin: 0; list-style-type: none; font-size: 100%; cursor: default; width: auto; padding: 0; padding-top: 5px; text-align: center; } /* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */ ul.MenuBarActive { z-index: 1000; } /* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */ ul.MenuBarHorizontal li { margin: 0; padding: 0; list-style-type: none; font-size: 100%; position: relative; text-align: left; cursor: pointer; width: 8em; float: left; } /* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */ ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul { margin: 0; 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    @charset "UTF-8";
    /* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
    /* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
    LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
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    font-size: 100%;
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    width: auto;
    padding: 0;
    padding-top: 5px;
    text-align: center;
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    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
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    cursor: pointer;
    width: 8em;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: 8.2em;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    background-color: #000;
    border-color: #999;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    width: auto;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
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    top: 0px;
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    border: 1px solid #CCC;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
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    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #000;
    color: #FFF;
    text-decoration: none;
    text-align: center;
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    <div id="mainbody">
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    <hr />
    <div id="content">
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    </div>
    <div id="footer">
    <div id="footernav">
    </div>
    <div id="footertext">
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    </div>
    </div>
    </body>
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                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 14px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
    border-color: #999999 #999999 #999999 #999999;
    border-width:3px;
    border-style: outset outset outset outset;
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    widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
    in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
    .MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
    .MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
    .MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
    .MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 80em;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 80em;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
    .MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
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    #MenuBar  .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;  /* Zero out margin  on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
        For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
        or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
        Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem {
    padding: 0px 24px 0px 0px;
    background-color:#333333;
    border-width:1px;
    border-color: #cccccc #ffffff #cccccc #999999;
    border-style: none none none solid;
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none solid;
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#cccccc;
    background-color:#333333;
    padding: 6px 15px 6px 39px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
    /* First level submenu items */
    #MenuBar .SubMenu  .MenuItem {
    font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 12px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:#666666;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:1px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 6px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: solid solid solid solid;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 6px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:#666666;
    color:#cccccc;
    padding: 6px 12px 6px 5px;
    width: 7em;
    width:auto;
    /* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #333333;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: #333333; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: #333333;
    color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #666666;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: #666666;
    color: #ffffff;
    /* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
    #MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color:#333;
    min-width:100%;  /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than the parent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-color: #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff;
    border-width:0px;
    border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%; /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
         and your personal taste.
         0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of the MenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
         on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
         menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
         the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
    #MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
    /* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
    #MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: #ffffff;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px; /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
        that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
        vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
        negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
        to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
    /* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
    /* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
    * Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element for selection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu" (MenuItemWithSubMenu),
    * giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
    * Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in a selector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6 ignores
    * all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets the specificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs as significant. To get around this
    * problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
    * Since there are a lot of these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes for modern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
    * syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
    * it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
    * So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule.  We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
    * mistakenly override, making sure the  misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
    * We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
    * the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
    * css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
    * If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these, as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js script.
    * The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by  the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser is Internet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditional comments for these rules.
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector  */{
    background-color: #333333; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector  */{
    background-color: #666666; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu  /* IE6 selector  */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
    SpryMenuBasic.css
    /* SpryMenuBasic.css - version 0.5 - Spry Pre-Release 1.7 */
    /* Copyright (c) 2010. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
    /* This is the css for a basic Spry 2 MenuBar.
    * The first section is basic layout, and should in general not need to be  modified.
    * The final section of this file specifies images to use for arrows for the menu. These
    * are either down or right-pointing as required by horizonatal or vertical layouts. You
    * can either replace the referenced images with your own, or you can modify these rules to
    * point to your won images.
    * These rules are supplemented by those specified in the OAM file for inclusion in the html document,
    * or alternatively, the file SpryMenuBarBasicSkin.css which is included with this widget. */
    /* Resets for ul and li in menus */
    .MenuBar  .MenuBarView, .MenuBar  .SubMenuView {
    display:block;
    list-style:none;
    margin:0;
    padding:0;
    /*** Layout Rules for Basic Menu ***/
    /* Top Level MenuBar
    * Because we float the MenuItemContainers in the MenuBar, we have to make sure the menubar wrapper expands to hold them all.
    * The simplest way is to float the widget wrapper
    .MenuBar { /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
    float:left;
    width:100%;
    .MenuBarVertical {
    float:left; /* Used to make menubar shirink to fit contents */
    width:auto;
    /* SubMenus */
    .MenuBar .SubMenu {
    display:block;
    position:absolute;
    top:0;
    left:-10000px; /* By default, all non-visible submenus are hidden by moving way to the west */
    padding:0;
    /* First level of submenus - pulls down from horizontal menubar, right from vertical */
    .MenuBar .SubMenuVisible{ /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
    top:100%;
    left:0px;
    .MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top:0px;
    left:100%;
    /* All submenus below level 1. All pullout to the right */
    .MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenuVisible {
    display:block;
    position:absolute;
    top:0px;
    left:100%;
    /* MenuItems, MenuItemLabels, and MenuItemContainers */
    .MenuBar .MenuItem {
    display:block;
    text-decoration:none;
    .MenuBar .MenuItemLabel {
    display:block;
    .MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    position:relative;
    white-space:nowrap;
    float:left; /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
    display:block;
    margin:0;
    padding:0;
    .MenuBarVertical .MenuItemContainer {
    float:none;
    .MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemContainer {
    float:none;
    /* Layout Rules needed by IE6 - excluded from other browsers */
    .SpryIsIE6 .SubMenu .SubMenu {
    width:100px;
    height:1%;
    .SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .SubMenuVisible .SubMenuVisible {
    width:auto;
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    * Arrows - This section specifies arrow images for a submenu dropdowns in Basic SpryMenu.
    .MenuBar .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:none;
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    .MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDownGrey.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    .MenuBar .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDownWhite.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    .MenuBarVertical .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    .MenuBarVertical .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    .MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    .MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    /* IE6 rules for Arrows */
    .SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDown.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    .SpryIsIE6 .MenuBarVertical .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    .SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;

    I love your subject line
    Spry Menu 2.0 issues in IE7..   yes another one!
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    Problem with that is that Spry Menu 2.0 has been successfully tested in all modern browsers.
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    var MenuBar = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar2("#MenuBar", {
        widgetID: "MenuBar",
        widgetClass: "MenuBar  MenuBarLeftShrink",
        insertMenuBarBreak: true,
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    This needs to be corrected in your document
    Gramps

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    Here are the two pages I am referring to:
    Good Page:
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    Bad Page:
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    were
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    > Now, I thought (probably in error) that items after !--
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    Adobe Community Expert
    (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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    message
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    > Hummm...
    >
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