Why OSB not Oracle SOA Suite BPEL ?

Hello,
Same task we can perform in composites of Oracle SOA 11g then why we use OBS ? Can't we perform the same task via mediator in Oracle SOA Suite 11g ?

see :
http://www.slideshare.net/gschmutz/oracle-soa-suite-11g-mediator-vs-oracle-service-bus-osb
OSB vs SOA suite
a lot of discussions have already been made so, the list of answers should be there :)

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