Win XP Pro does NOT boot/install on MS-6570 K7N2G-L Bios v.3.4

MSI K7N2G-L (MS-6570) Bios v.3.4 (Approved on AMD's site)
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ Barton Core 333 Mhz
3 x 1 Gig Infineon DDR 2700 333 Mhz run at 2100 266 Mhz
on-board VGA and/or TNT RIVA 64 AGP
Maxtor 120 Gig 8 MB Cache
D-LED Bracket
2 x Antec 80 mm Tri-Color LED system fans
600 Watt CompUSA PSU:
+3.3V = 17A
+5V = 50A
+12V = 23A
-5V = .6A
-12V = .6A
+5Vsb = 2A
I am fairly confident in all of the components and installation...had to trouble shoot for a while just to get to POST--it was a problem w/running 3 x 1 Gig DDR 22700 at 333 Mhz.
Win XP Pro will NOT boot properly--when I start it, I sometimes see the boot screen, and it will hang; or see it very briefly followed by the "Sorry for the inconvenience. Windows did not start properly" bluescreen and a system reboot...
I've tried reinstalling the OS which hangs between the installation and checking your components processes.
Possible causes:
* The RAM is bad, if so, PLEASE advise.
* The PSU is deficient on several power rails, if so, recommend figures PLEASE.
* Any other ideas, PLEASE advise.
Assuming that the RAM, PSU and all the other components are not an issue, PLEASE advise as to what else could be the problem.
I've had a similar problem happen in the past when installing Win XP Home on another Mobo, but worked fine when I installed Win 98 2nd Ed.
Maybe God or a MSI Tech will reply--they're tech support seems to have ignored me...my RMA window has passed w/the reseller. Thank you in advance to those who post.

Quote
Originally posted by Syruel
Thank you to everyone who helped me w/my prob. I got an Antec True Power 430--they didn\\\\\\\'t have any of the 550\\\\\\\'s in stock--and now my system is up and running.
Sadly, I still could NOT boot up the existing OS--I still had the same problems mentioned above--can anyone explain that?
But, I was able to install the OS on a blank HD, which worked just fine for some reason--I just have to reinstall everything now--any ideas as to that?
As for the manual and RAM...screw that...Quote
also do you mean 3 gigs of ram total when you say 3x1gig if so your board only supports 2 gig of ram when it is pc2700...
Yes, I mean 3 Gigs total. I read on Soyo\\\\\\\'s website that it\\\\\\\'s MoBo\\\\\\\'s do that and will only support 3 Gigs at 2100, hence me underclocking my RAM at 266 Mhz. It would have been really useful if MSI\\\\\\\'s documentation would have said the same thing. 3 Gigs at 2700 is the reason my system would NOT even POST. Where did you see that it only supports 2 Gigs at 2700?[/COLOR]
That's not unusual that you would have to do a fresh install of your OS to get it running properly. As far as RAM these boards are very sensitive to types of RAM so You may have trouble with your sticks. As far as 3 1 Gig sticks, unless you are doing some very heavy graphics it is probably overkill and you will find better performance with two sticks running in dual mode. Try it and see which way it runs better for you!
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Thank you to everyone who helped me w/my prob. I got an Antec True Power 430--they didn\\\\\\\'t have any of the 550\\\\\\\'s in stock--and now my system is up and running.
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also do you mean 3 gigs of ram total when you say 3x1gig if so your board only supports 2 gig of ram when it is pc2700...
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My mac book pro does not boot up correctly anymore after doing some updates. I did have my ipod charging to my mac book. I ran the simple updates and never go to the maverick update and now my computer will not boot correctly. Help!

Please help my computer is not repsonding after doing some simple updates. I follow the instructions and which is simply click for the update to take place. I did what I was instructed to do. I did not do the new update for the Mavericks yet. I just did simple updates. The computer shutted down and restarted but would never get pass the grey screen with the spinning wheel and the booting bar that would not go past a certain point befor shutting off again. The computer is practically brand new. I purchased the computer from best by 2012 and the warrenty just ended the past October. I hardly use the computer maybe 4 times since I have had it because I have another main computer that I uses. However, I don't want to do a hard rest becuase I do have the entire adobe suits software that I paid for and don't want to loose. I have an appointment with apple today to see what they say but I hope that my computer that I hardly every use is not defected after doing a updated pushed by Apple. Any thoughts or suggestions???? Thanks in advance Apple Family :-)

Well, I was at Apple for sometime on that day. I got a Genius that did not want to work. She basically jumped to the money to tell me that my hard drive was no good and that I was out of warranty (October 2013). I began to explain to her that I had only used the computer 5 times and that I don't use this computer as my main computer because I also have a Toshiba that is less expensive that I have had for several years and not one issue out of it. The rep told me that I could by a new hard drive for $161.00 and that I would loose all of my software and photos that I have on this computer. However, I told her that it's bazaar that it happens right after my warranty goes out and had I used it more often when in warranty before October then I would have been covered. Keeping in mind that I would still be very disappointed with the product because I would loose all of my information and it would not make sense to me why the hard drive fails on a very gently used computer. So I asked for a manager and it took her some time to get one. In the mean time I watched how the other Geniuses interacted with the other customers and seen that they were very engaging with convo and very help. I guess I just I got another lemon when I got my rep. When the manager finally came. I went from A-Z with the issues and that I felt that something could or should be done because the rep said that she did tests on my machine and it read to her that my hard drive was bad and there was nothing that could be done. I explained that I was not looking forward to paying for services to have my new computer repaired. The manager offered to give me 25% off the cost but I still didn't feel that it was effective. After he left and the rep wrote the notes in the system, I told her that I didn't think that all options had been exhausted and that there was something else that could be done. I told her to erase the machine and see if the updates could be installed and if the system would continue to do the same thing. The rep was hesitant and said that I would loose everything which we already know that we were at conclusion from the beginning. She assured me that I would happen again and that I would need a new hard drive. I just told her to erase the machine and get me another manager because I was just getting tired of her unhelpfulness and negative perspective. The new manager came and was very pleasant and I explained everything once again from A-Z. I informed him that I had the machine erased and that I need his help with options because I don't feel that the rep or the last manager was resourceful or helpful. He apologies for the actions of the reps and proceed to tell me that they will run all the updates in the store and that if it booted correctly that I should continue to use the machine with out adding the adobe software back on just incase that it crashes again and I'm out of money once again. However, if it does happen again and it is a hard drive issues that he would work with me to resolve the issues. As my computer went through the process of rebooting from out of the box stage another rep approached me because he could tell that I was upset and not happy. I told he what had happen and he said I think I can help you a little more. He said that I just want to run further testing on you computer for different components to make sure that everything would work properly and pin point any issues. I was delighted with that option. Anything would help at this time especially someone who is willing to help. The first test that he ran was to for the hard drive and he said that since it failed the test the first time could be because the software update glitch and did update correctly which would make the test faulty and be negative. As I sit with finger crossed the test came back as a pass test that my hard drive was not the issue and that the update was the cause and that I did not have to buy a new hard drive. I was happy that the computer was ok but I lost information. All of the updates were done in the store and everything works fine now. If I was not persistent about my gut feeling then I would had left out thinking that I had to pay for a new hard drive that I really didn't needed. Now I can invest that money in a external hard drive to start backing up my information. Lesson learned by I'm still on the fence about things but I hope all is well. I really went through a lot. No help or no service was not an option that I was taken. I hope that it helps.

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